Test-e & Anavar

[PeteZA]

Starting a cycle on Monday for 12 weeks for the sole purpose of burning as much body fat as possible while retaining lean muscle mass. Which is going to consist of the following:

Week 1 - 2 : 60MG of Anavar daily.
Week 3 - 5 : 80MG of Anavar daily.
Week 6 - 12 : 100MG of Anavar daily.
Test-e : 2ML per week for 12 weeks(250mg)

I'm going to be taking kidney and liver support, while obviously being in a deficit.

Would anyone recommend if the above is abit overboard in terms of the Anavar increase? Or maybe extend the 60MG daily to additional weeks?

Would really appreciate your feedback!

 

[big_rich]

What's your cycle history. To answer your question no need to ramp the dose up stay at 50mg. 50 is more than enough. I didn't see you mention diet but with your goal diet is key not the aas.

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[Ziath11]

There’s a lot of info showing very little benefit from taking 100mg of Anavar vs 50. The only difference is doubling something harsh to your body. Stick with 50 and you’ll have an excellent time.

 

[littlegainsinmass]

Starting a cycle on Monday for 12 weeks for the sole purpose of burning as much body fat as possible while retaining lean muscle mass. Which is going to consist of the following:

Week 1 - 2 : 60MG of Anavar daily.
Week 3 - 5 : 80MG of Anavar daily.
Week 6 - 12 : 100MG of Anavar daily.
Test-e : 2ML per week for 12 weeks(250mg)

I'm going to be taking kidney and liver support, while obviously being in a deficit.

Would anyone recommend if the above is abit overboard in terms of the Anavar increase? Or maybe extend the 60MG daily to additional weeks?

Would really appreciate your feedback!

there are ways to get lean and taking just anavar.... nah. you could use Clenbuterol on a 2 week on 2 week off cycles, test and what I would use again to loss body fat PRIMO. I did a 16week test primo tbol cycle started at 230lbs 24%bf. ended at 190 14%.l bf. I worked hard and ate clean. still have a long way to go. but I feel the primo put on soild lean Mass amd helped the fat Melt. I don't think you will get the results you want with just avar. I have found avar is best used stacked with an injectable for the last 6 weeks of a lean gain cycle

 

[PeteZA]

Ive done some Anavar and test in the past.

Should I then perhaps start at 40MG Anavar for the first couple of weeks and then jump up to 60MG Anavar thereafter?
If you're saying that 60MG is too much then I don't want to put such significant strain on the liver. Would it be okay to start on 40MG for the first 6 weeks and then go up to 60MG for the last 6? I will be taking liver and kidney support supplements.

My sole purpose using this stack is fat loss, and I will be on a calorie deficit diet throughout.

My weight is currently - 97KG / 211LB
My height is currently - 181CM / 6ft
My bf% is approximately - 25%

What else would you recommend

What's your cycle history. To answer your question no need to ramp the dose up stay at 50mg. 50 is more than enough. I didn't see you mention diet but with your goal diet is key not the aas.

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[PeteZA]

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There’s a lot of info showing very little benefit from taking 100mg of Anavar vs 50. The only difference is doubling something harsh to your body. Stick with 50 and you’ll have an excellent time

I'm slightly in the shit box, because I already have a supply of 20MG tabs. Could I start at 40MG and then go up to 60MG?
Or would you not recommend going over 50?

 

[Ziath11]

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I'm slightly in the shit box, because I already have a supply of 20MG tabs. Could I start at 40MG and then go up to 60MG?
Or would you not recommend going over 50?

40 or 60 is fine in my opinion. If you have leftovers you can always save for another cycle down the road. Pill cutters are also very helpful to have on hand and you can get them for a few bucks on Amazon.

 

[Ziath11]

Just now seeing this is an oral only cycle. There’s a lot of good info in this post which includes oral only cycles. Highly recommend test be a starting point of any cycle. Also at 25% body fat you should keep up with diet and exercise before dabbling in any aas.

Your First Cycle

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Courtesy of DragonSlayer.

 

[PeteZA]

Just now seeing this is an oral only cycle. There’s a lot of good info in this post which includes oral only cycles. Highly recommend test be a starting point of any cycle. Also at 25% body fat you should keep up with diet and exercise before dabbling in any aas.

Your First Cycle

So, you got interested in steroids and are now trying to figure out where to start. Beginners have one rule: KISS. That stands for Keep It Simple, Stupid. The more chemicals you toss in at once, the bigger your chances of going down in a flaming fireball. A big, bloated, gyno-y fireball. BUT...

www.anabolicsteroidforums.com

Courtesy of DragonSlayer.

It's not only oral, I'll be stacking with test-e.

Also, I have been/and will continue training 5 days a week and being in a calorie deficit. However, I need the extra boost from the Anavar and then the ability to retain lean mass from the test.

 

[PeteZA]

Okay, so as per recommendations - I'll change up up to the following:

40MG of Anavar daily from Week 1 - 6
60MG of Anavar daily from Week 6 - 12
Test-e - 2ml per week for 12 weeks (500mg per week)

Will use organ support throughout and ensure the diet is clean and training hard.

 

[Ziath11]

It's not only oral, I'll be stacking with test-e.

Also, I have been/and will continue training 5 days a week and being in a calorie deficit. However, I need the extra boost from the Anavar and then the ability to retain lean mass from the test.

I see sorry it’s early in the morning brain still foggy.

 

[big_rich]

Okay, so as per recommendations - I'll change up up to the following:

40MG of Anavar daily from Week 1 - 6
60MG of Anavar daily from Week 6 - 12
Test-e - 2ml per week for 12 weeks (500mg per week)

Will use organ support throughout and ensure the diet is clean and training hard.

12 weeks of anavar thats a log time fam. I know some do long run on orals but 12 is a bit much for me. Var is mild compared to like dbol but it will still fucc up your lipids.

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[Bolan]

Okay, so as per recommendations - I'll change up up to the following:

40MG of Anavar daily from Week 1 - 6
60MG of Anavar daily from Week 6 - 12
Test-e - 2ml per week for 12 weeks (500mg per week)

Will use organ support throughout and ensure the diet is clean and training hard.

12 weeks on orals ???? Your Lipids are gonna be pissed at you

 

[Bolan]

12 weeks of anavar thats a log time fam. I know some do long run on orals but 12 is a bit much for me. Var is mild compared to like dbol but it will still fucc up your lipids.

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We posted at the same time...lol

 

[Wardamn]

Would definitely start at 40mg and run that for 4-6 weeks.

 

[PeteZA]

12 weeks of anavar thats a log time fam. I know some do long run on orals but 12 is a bit much for me. Var is mild compared to like dbol but it will still fucc up your lipids.

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If not 12, then what we looking at to expect deecent results?

Should the test-e cycle then also be reconsidered? Considering that it was also going to be a 12 week cycle.

 

[PeteZA]

12 weeks on orals ???? Your Lipids are gonna be pissed at you

What would you recommend then? 8 weeks?

 

[Bolan]

Would definitely start at 40mg and run that for 4-6 weeks.

Look.. Its Dennis Wolf again!!

 

[PeteZA]

So if I run 40MG of Anavar for 6 weeks, should I continue to run the 500mg per week of test-e during this same time, or should I continue it for longer (12 weeks)?

Also, if I run the Anavar for 6 weeks, would I need to PCT afterwards? And wouldn't that mess with the test if I continued it?

 

[Bolan]

So if I run 40MG of Anavar for 6 weeks, should I continue to run the 500mg per week of test-e during this same time, or should I continue it for longer (12 weeks)?

Also, if I run the Anavar for 6 weeks, would I need to PCT afterwards? And wouldn't that mess with the test if I continued it?

6-8 weeks orals tops... 12 weeks test is fine.
And yes.. unless your already on TRT.. you will need PCT.

 

[PeteZA]

6-8 weeks orals tops... 12 weeks test is fine.
And yes.. unless your already on TRT.. you will need PCT.

Great, thanks for that.
When would I PCT? After the Anavar or after the test?

 

[Wardamn]

Look.. Its Dennis Wolf again!!

Good eye

 

[Bolan]

Great, thanks for that.
When would I PCT? After the Anavar or after the test?

2 weeks after last pin

 

[big_rich]

Yea 6 to 8 weeks tops imo. Make sure you have your pct products on hand before you start yoir cycle. I prefer a combination of clomid and Nolvadex but many run only Nolvadex. Pm me along the way if u have questions or need help bro.

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[littlegainsinmass]

So if I run 40MG of Anavar for 6 weeks, should I continue to run the 500mg per week of test-e during this same time, or should I continue it for longer (12 weeks)?

Also, if I run the Anavar for 6 weeks, would I need to PCT afterwards? And wouldn't that mess with the test if I continued it?

have you taken avar before? are you only taking it because you have it? You said your main goal is weight loss/fat loss? building muscle will help burn fat, but if you aren't eating clean and consuming huge amounts of protein it doesn't matter what you take. 12 weeks on avar is far to long. I would never use an oral past 6 or 7 weeks. have you had your test level checked prior to taking test? unless you are low to start with 500mg is very high.

 

[Wiseguy]

I hate to be the bad guy my friend Anavar and Test are not going to burn your bodyfat at 25%. Cardio, caloric deficit is what you need. You can take all the gear you want but if you don't have your diet and cardio in check not going to happen.

 

[Bigdog6.7]

have you taken avar before? are you only taking it because you have it? You said your main goal is weight loss/fat loss? building muscle will help burn fat, but if you aren't eating clean and consuming huge amounts of protein it doesn't matter what you take. 12 weeks on avar is far to long. I would never use an oral past 6 or 7 weeks. have you had your test level checked prior to taking test? unless you are low to start with 500mg is very high.

I hate to be the bad guy my friend Anavar and Test are not going to burn your bodyfat at 25%. Cardio, caloric deficit is what you need. You can take all the gear you want but if you don't have your diet and cardio in check not going to happen.

seems to be the consensus for everything I have read also

 

[badgerz94]

At your body fat, there is no reason to use 500mg Test. Use 200mg for as long as you need, you can put Anavar in there at 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off at 40mg and go nuts on the cardio and lifting to burn fat and eat in a 500-800 calorie deficit per day depending on your current weight and goals. The Test and Anavar will preserve muscle while you are dropping weight/fat. Once you are at a body fat level you like, somewhere in the 10-15% area, you can do an actual cycle, a mild cycle no less, and get great results.

I spent years doing bulk and cut, bulk and cut. Never again. Its so hard on your body and health. Get to a body fat that you really like and do mild cycles to add lean muscle. I wish I could go back 15 years and give myself that advice. I could have locked good 12 months a year and it would have been better for my long term health. Instead I did too many heavy cycles and too much extreme dieting. The old saying "slow and steady wins the race" is so true but no one in their 20s, especially me at the time, wants to hear that.

 

[Bigdog6.7]

At your body fat, there is no reason to use 500mg Test. Use 200mg for as long as you need, you can put Anavar in there at 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off at 40mg and go nuts on the cardio and lifting to burn fat and eat in a 500-800 calorie deficit per day depending on your current weight and goals. The Test and Anavar will preserve muscle while you are dropping weight/fat. Once you are at a body fat level you like, somewhere in the 10-15% area, you can do an actual cycle, a mild cycle no less, and get great results.

I spent years doing bulk and cut, bulk and cut. Never again. Its so hard on your body and health. Get to a body fat that you really like and do mild cycles to add lean muscle. I wish I could go back 15 years and give myself that advice. I could have locked good 12 months a year and it would have been better for my long term health. Instead I did too many heavy cycles and too much extreme dieting. The old saying "slow and steady wins the race" is so true but no one in their 20s, especially me at the time, wants to hear that.

 

[JD1155]

I would do this... just me but it’s one of my favorite mini cycles

Week 1-15 Test E at 300mg a week. I like test for 15 weeks during blasts

Week 1-6 or 8. 50mg of Anavar one hour pre workout on training days only