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I know this is very opinionated topic. Majority say keep test slightly higher. Others say 1:1 is fine. And few love 1:2 test to deca.

As someone who has not ran deca before. What ratio would u advise. Couple ideas I came up with. I plan to push it 20 weeks. Assuming eveyrbing goes well up until then. Not opposed to throwing in 20mg dbol for 5 or so weeks. Have been told just leave the dbol out. Missing a lot of personal stats. But I’m purely just looking for ur experience or knowledge on test/ deca ratio. Thanks in advance

400/400 (1:1)
500 T/ 400 D
400 T / 320 D
400 T / 250 D
250T / 400 D
 
i ALWAYS have run 1:1 for example, ill run 400 test 400 deca. sometimes ill bump to 500 test.

Everyone is different and people get different sides from different ratios. I may run 2:1 this winter to see how i respond.
@Fletcher can give you his insite
 
Depends on your estrogen and how you handle it. High test and low deca for a high converter is usually no bueno. Lower test and mid deca would be a better option as deca convert to estrogen 1:5 that of test.

This is just general. You can't give a ratio without knowing all the specifics. That's the same for all compounds. Anyone that does is assuming.
 
Meetketchup said:
Depends on your estrogen and how you handle it. High test and low deca for a high converter is usually no bueno. Lower test and mid deca would be a better option as deca convert to estrogen 1:5 that of test.

This is just general. You can't give a ratio without knowing all the specifics. That's the same for all compounds. Anyone that does is assuming.
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Yeah great point as well
 
Meetketchup said:
Depends on your estrogen and how you handle it. High test and low deca for a high converter is usually no bueno. Lower test and mid deca would be a better option as deca convert to estrogen 1:5 that of test.

This is just general. You can't give a ratio without knowing all the specifics. That's the same for all compounds. Anyone that does is assuming.
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Deca only converts at 20% the rate of test?

I thought it was higher than that. Interesting.

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Ratios, smatios - everyone's got their own sweet spot, and after trying a million and one, I've landed on what works for me: keeping things roughly in the same ballpark, with a slight nandrolone nibble under, mainly because too much oil makes me go 'meh' and I'm saving the goods for mast.
 
Fat Mike01 said:
i ALWAYS have run 1:1 for example, ill run 400 test 400 deca. sometimes ill bump to 500 test.

Everyone is different and people get different sides from different ratios. I may run 2:1 this winter to see how i respond.
@Fletcher can give you his insite
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I always run (and advise guys I help) test at 2x ANY nandrolone.
30+ years doing this.
 
Fletcher said:
I always run (and advise guys I help) test at 2x ANY nandrolone.
30+ years doing this.
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Would 400 T / 200 D, be a good place to start? Any advice with dbol? Is it worth throwing in towards end of cycle or avoid it completely?
 
Smeeg said:
Would 400 T / 200 D, be a good place to start? Any advice with dbol? Is it worth throwing in towards end of cycle or avoid it completely?
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Thats a good ratio. Deca wont really shine as far as gains till week 7-8.
Dbol works best after your other compounds are in full effect. Just use aromasin for conversion and you'll be gtg.
Liver support throughout of course.
 
Deca is a strange one. It has progestogenic activity so it can potentiate estrogenic activity. In English that means that in the presence of estrogen, like when on a good swig of test, it can cause gyno. It also has that weird deca dick side effect in a lot of guys. On the positive side, it is really anabolic, at least in my eyes. So the way to use it is to add it low at first and titrate up watching out for side effects. A common place where the average user does OK is 500 test/300 deca. I use it at 100 mg/w for arthritis/joint pain. Not very anabolic at that dose. 300 mg seems to be the entry dose for growth.
 
Deca dick is from unmanaged e2. As stated above, nandrolone can cause estrogen potentiation. I get that effect from it, 500 test and 300 npp requires .5mg adex day after shot to keep e2 in check.
 
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Im not a high estrogen converter, can run 5-600 test and all I need is 3-400 mast along with it to be good to go

I used to love deca when I was younger, might be the best pure mass builder you can run a long time. Nowdays it brings some bad mental sides, just a shitty outlook on life and no motivation to do anything. Everybody's different. Some feel like a god on it. But itd be best to start on the low side if you never used it to see how youre gonna react

Another thing I never experienced deca dick back in the day but it doesnt take much of it now. The deca dick is real for some people. I cant say its not estrogen related, but I can say aromasin/adex etc wont phase it. Cabergoline will, in just a day or two. So its prolactin related in my case, and whether or not estrogen is causing prolactin to be high or not (thats a popular theory) lowering my estro doesnt fix it

That is just my experience but if I were you Id start low to see how its gonna hit you. And run some ai unless you know for a fact you dont need it. Taking bloods before during and after would be ideal but a lot of folks arent gonna do that
 
mae_geri said:
Do you recognized a deca dick or low libido if you ran ratio 1:1 ?
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Not personally. My body seems to love progesterone derivatives. They increase my sex drive. Back in the day I did a Blitz Cycle where you run one AAS for 3 weeks then no AAS for 3 weeks. I did deca only the first 3 weeks. I had been off gear for 5 months prior to this. I did 50mg Australian veterinary deca week # 1, 100mg deca week # 2, and 150mg deca week # 3. People will say long esters like deconate take a long time to work. Nonsense! Six hours after the shot I was crawling out of my skin horny. I wacked off 6 times to lesbian porn. Also, I’ve had horrible knee pain at the time, so bad I couldn’t get 3 reps of leg extensions with 40Lbs, because I was recovering from a meniscus tear. I took the deca in the early morning and went to to gym at night, after all my wack off sessions. I was able to do double the reps. My knees felt much better. When you take an IM injection I think it starts releasing into your blood stream right away in small amounts and starts working. People can say that’s bro-science but there’s no denying what I personally felt. In the end that’s all that matters, not some scientific study on who knows what(not typically trained athlete’s with AAS history), with who knows what motivation behind the study.
 
Deca dick is real ,I run yr round never stop..Im doing 600 deca 900 test and have so for many many yrs..I've started getting issues staying erect so now bumped test to 950mg.
Seems to be good now...I go by the 1.5 to 1 ratio but again now have bumped my test up.
 
Stevo71 said:
Deca dick is real ,I run yr round never stop..Im doing 600 deca 900 test and have so for many many yrs..I've started getting issues staying erect so now bumped test to 950mg.
Seems to be good now...I go by the 1.5 to 1 ratio but again now have bumped my test up.
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