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Need a bit of help, I ran a test (400) and tren (400) cycle for 8 weeks, loved the results, has been 8 weeks since I finished it ( no need of pct since I’m on trt). My question is, how often or how many times can I run the same cycle (test + tren) per year?
 
Sorry I forgot to include my labs while I was on the cycle, here they are..
 
Need a bit of help, I ran a test (400) and tren (400) cycle for 8 weeks, loved the results, has been 8 weeks since I finished it ( no need of pct since I’m on trt). My question is, how often or how many times can I run the same cycle (test + tren) per year?
Yeah man- u didn't mention ur age or ur experience w/ aas. I'm assuming ur young and healthy( couldn't see ur lab work- may just be my fault). Tren is probably the strongest compound on earth imo. 400 is a pretty stout dose. I wouldn't do more than 2 or 3 cycles a year- and that's if I was in my 20s or 30s. If ur 40 or older, I wouldn't do more than 1 cycle a year. I just turned 59 Sunday and my body just can't take it anymore period. But when I was younger it didn't bother me whatsoever. I loved it and what it did for my body. The last thing I will say is- if I knew then what I know now- I wouldn't do it at all. Anything that CAN have ALL the different sides- mental,physical etc. Just can't be good for ur overall health. All this is just 1 guys opinion/experience and everyone is different- and ur probably gonna do it anyway- so my advice is remember that some things have long term ramifications that can't be undone- not trying to scare u bud- but be very careful w/ that stuff- it can get u in trouble in more ways than 1- good luck and welcome to the forum- HR
 
Yeah man- u didn't mention ur age or ur experience w/ aas. I'm assuming ur young and healthy( couldn't see ur lab work- may just be my fault). Tren is probably the strongest compound on earth imo. 400 is a pretty stout dose. I wouldn't do more than 2 or 3 cycles a year- and that's if I was in my 20s or 30s. If ur 40 or older, I wouldn't do more than 1 cycle a year. I just turned 59 Sunday and my body just can't take it anymore period. But when I was younger it didn't bother me whatsoever. I loved it and what it did for my body. The last thing I will say is- if I knew then what I know now- I wouldn't do it at all. Anything that CAN have ALL the different sides- mental,physical etc. Just can't be good for ur overall health. All this is just 1 guys opinion/experience and everyone is different- and ur probably gonna do it anyway- so my advice is remember that some things have long term ramifications that can't be undone- not trying to scare u bud- but be very careful w/ that stuff- it can get u in trouble in more ways than 1- good luck and welcome to the forum- HR
One other thing- just a suggestion- if ur gonna do it, maybe try a lower dose and see how it works- maybe 200? 400 is a lot- again good luck-HR
 
Sorry I forgot to include my labs while I was on the cycle, here they are..
Sorry, I’m new to this and don’t know how to erase or reopen the chat to attach the files, hopefully they go through this time!
 

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How new to this are you...
Age..
Experience..
Cycles and Compounds..

The quick answer..
I believe..unless you're stepping on stage..
Two cycles a yr is Plenty..

Let's break it Down..
3 month cycle...three months Off=6 months
2 cycles=12 months..
Z...
 
I go strictly by blood work regardless of compounds I always run full blood work 90 days after to make sure everything is back to normal. Once everything in range I plan the next cycle .
 
Good God man. Did you even look at your cover ups? 😬😬😬😬

At what point of the cycle was that lab work taken? It was collected 3/1/22 but you said you have been off 8 weeks? Explain.....I pray that wasn't your labs BEFORE the cycle. Bet them kidney was screaming oh fuck during the tren run if that was your kidneys before tren. Help me out here.....what am I missing?

We need that information Z and H
Your estrogen was in the dirt. Bet your joints was as dry as Nancy Pelosis vag. Also bet you felt like a pile of steaming shit (been there done that bc I didn't know any better) How much AI was you taking?

Your kidney function was not great. How much water was you drinking?

Hematocrit was on the verge of needing to donate blood or take some off your self.

I'd throw in some daily vitamin D for good measure. Yours wasn't low but was low normal.

Liver looked good which leads me to question AGAIN if this was before your tren run.

I'd get labs again BEFORE touching tren again. You need to make sure your kidney function is optimal. If it looks like it did in those labs I wouldn't run it. Maybe you was super dehydrated?
 
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Good God man. Did you even look at your cover ups? 😬😬😬😬

At what point of the cycle was that lab work taken? It was collected 3/1/22 but you said you have been off 8 weeks? Explain.....I pray that wasn't your labs BEFORE the cycle. Bet them kidney was screaming oh fuck during the tren run if that was your kidneys before tren. Help me out here.....what am I missing?

We need that information Z and H
Your estrogen was in the dirt. Bet your joints was as dry as Nancy Pelosis vag. Also bet you felt like a pile of steaming shit (been there done that bc I didn't know any better) How much AI was you taking?

Your kidney function was not great. How much water was you drinking?

Hematocrit was on the verge of needing to donate blood or take some off your self.

I'd throw in some daily vitamin D for good measure. Yours wasn't low but was low normal.

Liver looked good which leads me to question AGAIN if this was before your tren run.

I'd get labs again BEFORE touching tren again. You need to make sure your kidney function is optimal. If it looks like it did in those labs I wouldn't run it. Maybe you was super dehydrated?
Hey Matt88, thanks for the reply..
 
Sorry, I’m new to this and don’t know how to erase or reopen the chat to attach the files, hopefully they go through this time!
Thanks to all of you for the replies, and yes you guys are correct, I had the labs done at the beginning of march and I started the cycle on the 13th of march, I do not have labs during the cycle, for some reason I ended up thinking I got the labs the on the first weeks of the cycle, sound weird but I did, sorry for the confusion...

I've been on TRT for almost 10 years (125mg twice a week) test comes mixed with an estrogen blocker (1mg of anastrozole per 250 mg of test)
Never done a cycle in my life but the tren/test I ran at the beginning of the year, so I have no experience
Felt great and looked in awesome shape, (ill try to upload a pic on the avatar)

I am 54 yo
I am 6 foot tall
wight is 190

Just in case is needed, this are my current body measurements

Neck 17 in
Chest 44 in
Shoulders 50
Arms 16 in
Stomach 32 in
Glutes 42 in
Legs 24 in
Calves 16 in

-About my kidneys, for the last 3 labs I get the same number, and the nurse at the place where I get my TRT said not to worry unless the number gets lower than 57 which is not abnormal for men on TRT. Should I worry?
-I'm sorry, what are Z and H? (tried to look it up but couldn't figure it out)
-Estrogen was low because I was on Raloxifene, I developed gyno a few years ago even though the test I inject has a bit of anastrozole, so I did some research and I ended up deciding to take Raloxifene which helped me get rid of the gyno, has been almost invisible for almost a year now, I would say that it got rid of about 90% of it. And ever since I stopped raloxifene I added a bit of letrozole, 4 mg once a week just to be safe, is there a sweet spot for estrogen? should be the same for everybody or does everybody have different needs?
-I will get blood work before I start to make sure things are ok, and in the middle of the cycle as well, this time I will keep track of things

Again, thank you so much for your advice guys, what you do here is invaluable, extremely kind and so helpful.
 
When I initially read your first post,I had a feeling it was you Very First Cycle..
Just skip right to Tren...
Huge Mistake...
WoW....please tell us Why..???
Z...
 
When I initially read your first post,I had a feeling it was you Very First Cycle..
Just skip right to Tren...
Huge Mistake...
WoW....please tell us Why..???
Z...
A lot of people are ignorant to the complexity of AAS and their consequences. I’d say a high percentage of people start outta curiosity since steroids obviously mean you’ll get jacked asf just because you’re taking them… I was once one of them.

When I started it was whatever your local gym guy had on him. Didn’t know any better and if we did, we didn’t care. Just like abusing recreational hardcore drugs, you know they’re gonna ruin your life, but you do them anyways. You’d ask him if he had any AI he’d say what’s that? So, you run a test, tren cycle and hope for the best. Scared to death when you find yourself drenched in sweat at night with itchy sensitive nipples and there’s nothing you can do about it other than stop pinning or continue praying that you don’t grow some double ds LOL

That’s why forums such as this one are so valuable to those interested or dedicated to this lifestyle, because not only does it educate you, it also provides the interaction with other members who have vast amounts of knowledge through personal experience, who can provide the feedback as harsh as it may be sometimes to lead people in the right direction. Not to mention the access to trustworthy sources who essentially provide everything you need to run a proper safe cycle. So, I see why OP would go that route, at least he made it here now.
 
Well Said...
What I find annoying is that many..many man hours of members helping to establish stickys..threads..and personal failures,get ignored..or even worse..read and discarded..
With only a few good hrs of research..One should stumble over things that..they don't understand..
That Should raise concern..Not tossed..!!

That type of mindset..I just don't understand..Everything,if really researched,he read about Tren..Should have frightened him...not encouraging the OP to try Tren..
BUT
It continues to happen,sadly..
I mean screw it..
I don't know what I'm doing..Full Speed Ahead.

I've personally written so many threads and post about how important the first two cycles are..and Test Only..As many have before ME..Explaining in great detail the need for bloods and a basic understanding of AI's..prior the 1st pin..

Yet..dead ears...
But what usually follows is the countless threads after the damage is done..why is this..and why do I have tits now crap we all see..

With all this Free accessible data at one's fingertips..I can only say...
Foolish and Risky...

Sorry you use Tren on your very 1st cycle... Kinda deserve a fiery crash..
If not...
Halo..Methly..SD..and cheque drops..for cycle 2...

I have a hard time wrapping my head around this...just stupid..
No One here would even think about recommended Tren in the 1st cycle..

Well,then 8wk cycle...???
Hell..who has a bottle of PIP to sell to him..

Sorry OP..but that wasn't smart at ALL..maybe in the top 5 of what never to DO..
Z...
 
Well Said...
What I find annoying is that many..many man hours of members helping to establish stickys..threads..and personal failures,get ignored..or even worse..read and discarded..
With only a few good hrs of research..One should stumble over things that..they don't understand..
That Should raise concern..Not tossed..!!

That type of mindset..I just don't understand..Everything,if really researched,he read about Tren..Should have frightened him...not encouraging the OP to try Tren..
BUT
It continues to happen,sadly..
I mean screw it..
I don't know what I'm doing..Full Speed Ahead.

I've personally written so many threads and post about how important the first two cycles are..and Test Only..As many have before ME..Explaining in great detail the need for bloods and a basic understanding of AI's..prior the 1st pin..

Yet..dead ears...
But what usually follows is the countless threads after the damage is done..why is this..and why do I have tits now crap we all see..

With all this Free accessible data at one's fingertips..I can only say...
Foolish and Risky...

Sorry you use Tren on your very 1st cycle... Kinda deserve a fiery crash..
If not...
Halo..Methly..SD..and cheque drops..for cycle 2...

I have a hard time wrapping my head around this...just stupid..
No One here would even think about recommended Tren in the 1st cycle..

Well,then 8wk cycle...???
Hell..who has a bottle of PIP to sell to him..

Sorry OP..but that wasn't smart at ALL..maybe in the top 5 of what never to DO..
Z...
Couldn’t agree more. 👍
 
Thanks to all of you for the replies, and yes you guys are correct, I had the labs done at the beginning of march and I started the cycle on the 13th of march, I do not have labs during the cycle, for some reason I ended up thinking I got the labs the on the first weeks of the cycle, sound weird but I did, sorry for the confusion...

I've been on TRT for almost 10 years (125mg twice a week) test comes mixed with an estrogen blocker (1mg of anastrozole per 250 mg of test)
Never done a cycle in my life but the tren/test I ran at the beginning of the year, so I have no experience
Felt great and looked in awesome shape, (ill try to upload a pic on the avatar)

I am 54 yo
I am 6 foot tall
wight is 190

Just in case is needed, this are my current body measurements

Neck 17 in
Chest 44 in
Shoulders 50
Arms 16 in
Stomach 32 in
Glutes 42 in
Legs 24 in
Calves 16 in

-About my kidneys, for the last 3 labs I get the same number, and the nurse at the place where I get my TRT said not to worry unless the number gets lower than 57 which is not abnormal for men on TRT. Should I worry?
-I'm sorry, what are Z and H? (tried to look it up but couldn't figure it out)
-Estrogen was low because I was on Raloxifene, I developed gyno a few years ago even though the test I inject has a bit of anastrozole, so I did some research and I ended up deciding to take Raloxifene which helped me get rid of the gyno, has been almost invisible for almost a year now, I would say that it got rid of about 90% of it. And ever since I stopped raloxifene I added a bit of letrozole, 4 mg once a week just to be safe, is there a sweet spot for estrogen? should be the same for everybody or does everybody have different needs?
-I will get blood work before I start to make sure things are ok, and in the middle of the cycle as well, this time I will keep track of things

Again, thank you so much for your advice guys, what you do here is invaluable, extremely kind and so helpful.
I had an incompletely typed thought. Apologies. Z refers to Zion. H refers to hot rod. I meant to say we needed the information they ask you for.

You need to learn about estrogen management. Everyone's happy place is different but it's pretty well accepted that within the reference range is a great place to start. No one feels good on crashed estrogen and it's not healthy. Our brains even need some estrogen to function properly.

Are you saying your testosterone has anastrozole IN it?! Never heard of that.

You need to listen to the advice Zion and Astro are giving you. Your first cycle being tren is a HORRIBLE idea. That's like having never swimmed in your and someone dumping you in the ocean a mile from shore telling you to swim to land.

Aug is right. You can literally see ALL your personal information on your lab work.
 
One other thing- just a suggestion- if ur gonna do it, maybe try a lower dose and see how it works- maybe 200? 400 is a lot- again good luck-HR
Yeah- this is what I get for trying to give advice to someone w/ no data whatsoever on them. Of course I totally retract my earlier post. And I don't need to add anything- u guys covered it- however I learned a lesson- get some info before handing out advice- which has now changed to 0 cycles a year until he gets some medical answers- sorry op- I should have just said what I really think- tren is very dangerous- especially if u don't know what ur doing. No disrespect too u bud- but I wouldn't do any steroids unless u get more healthy- and do MUCH more research- Good luck too u man!-HR
 
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Yeah...
DumbAss ask some Questions first..
Hey...I called that one a mile away..
Hint:
8 week cycle...

Just F-ing with my good friend..HR
Z...
 
Yeah man- u didn't mention ur age or ur experience w/ aas. I'm assuming ur young and healthy( couldn't see ur lab work- may just be my fault). Tren is probably the strongest compound on earth imo. 400 is a pretty stout dose. I wouldn't do more than 2 or 3 cycles a year- and that's if I was in my 20s or 30s. If ur 40 or older, I wouldn't do more than 1 cycle a year. I just turned 59 Sunday and my body just can't take it anymore period. But when I was younger it didn't bother me whatsoever. I loved it and what it did for my body. The last thing I will say is- if I knew then what I know now- I wouldn't do it at all. Anything that CAN have ALL the different sides- mental,physical etc. Just can't be good for ur overall health. All this is just 1 guys opinion/experience and everyone is different- and ur probably gonna do it anyway- so my advice is remember that some things have long term ramifications that can't be undone- not trying to scare u bud- but be very careful w/ that stuff- it can get u in trouble in more ways than 1- good luck and welcome to the forum- HR
Thanks, HR, I turned 54 in April, I've worked out since I was 18, always been healthy, I have kept the same weight for more than 30 years, no diseases or surgeries of any kind, the only Dr. visits were for minor accidents and the flu.
In my early 20sn, I was considering using tren but it was a bit more complicated to use it back then, today is just a very convenient intramuscular shot, and not like you are cooking crack! -not trying to minimize the risks here, if someone has decided to use it- I chose not to do any steroids because of all the risks involved. Fast-forwarding to my 40s, I went for a check-up and some blood work, and I was told that my T was 200 and that I probably needed to start TRT, after some research I decided to go for it, I thought that if labs come up without any mayor discrepancies it would be worth it, the more muscle, sex drive, more sleep, etc were better than the negatives, so the things I have had to work on is my kidneys, red blood cells, and estradiol. some blood tests are normal and some come up with some of those three involve somehow so I do what's needed to make sure I keep that under control, in other words, things have been somehow ok for more than 10 years except for my estradiol, I developed gyno a few years back and that's with Dr supervision, -my Dr has said some things that don't make sense in the past- I did some research and decided to treat the gyno my way, now gyno is gone and I have been working on my estradiol levels, I still don't have it where it is supposed to be but things are better, I have to mention that I didn't have a crash or felt any different from having it that low, same with tren, even at 400, except for the feeling of getting mad for stupid things easily, but nothing extreme though. Felt great, really, workouts were awesome, I was about 14% BF before I started, now I'm 9% gained 7 lb of muscle, -Eating well of course- the mood was stable, sleep was normal besides some sweating, the sex drive was insane, -I have never gotten so much pussy in my whole life and I'm 54-, (IM NOT RECOMMENDING ANYONE TO USE TREN, I WAS VERY LUCKY, BUT EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND IF SOMEONE DECIDES TO USE IT, KNOW THAT THERE ARE TERRIBLE SIDE EFFECTS AND OTHER MAYOR ISSUES NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH) it is a shame I dint get some blood work done in the middle of the cycle. if I decide to do another cycle, whether is tren or something else, ill be a bit more prepared.
Again, thank you HR, your advice is invaluable.
 
Brother...
You dodged a silver bullet with Tren..
And you're talking About doing it AGAIN..
Extremely Risky behavior for 54..

I can see more damage control threads in your near future..
In the top 5 of worst decisions I've seen here in nearly 10 yrs..

You need to put the gear away before you screw yourself up beyond Repair..
The combo of 54 and jumping in the pool with no water(not knowing what you're doing)...Will end you up leaning on this Community for more Help..
Asking help is Why we are here..Yes

But..
Not listening and being foolish..and doing Tren..You are still asking for IT..
I'll bet 90% of seasoned vets won't touch Tren beyond 45..
But..You show us...!!
Just don't leave out the ER..pics..

Leaning back towards Tren shows you learned nothing..

Just do what has worked for guys for yrs..learn from other's mistakes..instead of foraging on with yours..
I'm being harsh to keep your Ass out of an unsavory outcome..
I can Only Hope you listen..

Like many vets..when someone goes against logic and does it their WAY..We often Don't continue to waste our Time..
That's a list..not to be ON..
Z...
 

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