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Tren with T3, or T4, or both?

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I've used Tren numerous times. Presently I'm 13 days into a Tren/Mast/Test cycle, and I'm wondering if using Thyroid would be a good idea to speed up my metabolism a little bit. I've always stayed away from using thyroid during an AAS cycle, but I know a lot of guys here use it.

So have any of you ever used Thyroid while using Tren? If so, please share the details good or bad. And would it better to use T3, T4, or both?
 
Good question- I also would like to hear responses
I have thought of using tren/test, clen and T3 in a cycle before.
I generally only use T4 when taking HGH.
 
I've heard of tren lowering t3 but I've never used it with just tren before. I use t4 with GH though. I can't really provide any good feedback, hopefully someone who can comes on
 
CRAZY DOSER said:
Interesting
What kind of tren you use?
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I'm not sure I that I understand your question. Are you asking about the source, or which ester I'm using? If it's the latter, the answer is Tren Ace, (EOD) in a combo mix with Mast P and Test P. I'm also using Cabergoline to keep Prolactin levels down, and Aromasin.
 
The problem here lies that without blood work no one can give you an appropriate answer.. I have seen cycles and blasts of All Sorts that have different effects on people with gear, HGH and peptides that may affect T3/T4 levels..

If you're looking to send your metabolism into overdrive you can initiate this with DIT itself along with the platform that you already have..

I would stay far away from T3 and T4... only employ them if your blood work indicates otherwise..

a lot of guys just spout that you have to run this with that all because they heard it somewhere and it gets passed along the lines, and before you know it it's being regurgitated and no one has any real reason why..

The truth is Trenbolone can affect thyroid output, but the only real method that would indicate that T3 or T4 is an option would be by blood work or even a comprehensive 24 hour urine test.

You may end up just flattening out and possibly wasting anything you've earned if you decide to employ T's
 
Tall Deck said:
I'm not sure I that I understand your question. Are you asking about the source, or which ester I'm using? If it's the latter, the answer is Tren Ace, (EOD) in a combo mix with Mast P and Test P. I'm also using Cabergoline to keep Prolactin levels down, and Aromasin.
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I think he's referring to the ester, he's probably wondering if you're using a more aggressive/upfront and hard-hitting ester (ace) or a long stable ester like E..
 
Vision said:
The problem here lies that without blood work no one can give you an appropriate answer.. I have seen cycles and blasts of All Sorts that have different effects on people with gear, HGH and peptides that may affect T3/T4 levels..

If you're looking to send your metabolism into overdrive you can initiate this with DIT itself along with the platform that you already have..

I would stay far away from T3 and T4... only employ them if your blood work indicates otherwise..

a lot of guys just spout that you have to run this with that all because they heard it somewhere and it gets passed along the lines, and before you know it it's being regurgitated and no one has any real reason why..

The truth is Trenbolone can affect thyroid output, but the only real method that would indicate that T3 or T4 is an option would be by blood work or even a comprehensive 24 hour urine test.

You may end up just flattening out and possibly wasting anything you've earned if you decide to employ T's
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Thanks for your reply. I don't take lightly the idea of using Thyroid, so your input definitely got my attention. BTW, sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is "DIT"??? Did you mean to say HIIT?
 
Tall Deck said:
Thanks for your reply. I don't take lightly the idea of using Thyroid, so your input definitely got my attention. BTW, sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is "DIT"??? Did you mean to say HIIT?
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Thyroid medications can be extremely dangerous.. on paper they may make a lot of sense with certain protocols, but the reality is you can really bang yourself up good and the side effects are not pleasant.. it's something that people really need to understand on their real true functions and how they operate because of my humble opinion they really are not necessary with any of these protocols that float around unless blood work states otherwise.. it's not something to just take because another compound may be Suspect with hindering levels..

DIT stands for dietary induced thermogenesis! :) :)
 
In prep yes all the time

Clen/ T3 along with compounds typically used getting ready for shows like tren.
 
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If your just trying to mitigate side effects then t4, if cutting t3. I would start at 25mcg. I've been taking t4 for the last 7yrs, 32mcg ed. When I run hgh or start feeling hypo I will jump up to 40-50mcg. Feeling tired and lethargic is the primary side effect I get from hypothyroidism.
 
The only problem I get with running any of the T's especially with Trenbolone is I get symptoms of adrenal fatigue, I end up feeling like crap even though Trenbolone is known to do that it can be x 10... Having adrenal fatigue is no fun and damn near impossible to get sleep let alone make a session in the gym..
 
lifter6973 said:
Shit, really? I didnt know this. I know people use clen and T3 to help with cutting but I didnt know the T3 could hurt gains.
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Yeah imo it really needs a lot of anabolics and a diet adjustment to avoid losing muscle. GH doesn't hurt on top of those. I'll personally never run t3 again most likely. When I compete I'm planning on being pretty lean quite a ways out
 
Really you need bloodwork to know what your thyroid levels are, I get a thyroid panel 2-3× a year. I can never come off t4, tried several times, I'm on it for life, so is my wife. Running hgh sometimes you need to supplement with a little t4, I do, I've pulled bloods while running 3-4iu hgh and notice a rise in my tsh levels, adding 10-15mcg of t4 compensates for the change.
 
REHH said:
Really you need bloodwork to know what your thyroid levels are, I get a thyroid panel 2-3× a year. I can never come off t4, tried several times, I'm on it for life, so is my wife. Running hgh sometimes you need to supplement with a little t4, I do, I've pulled bloods while running 3-4iu hgh and notice a rise in my tsh levels, adding 10-15mcg of t4 compensates for the change.
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There you have it... Blood work speaks volumes!!
 
REHH said:
Really you need bloodwork to know ...... I can never come off t4, tried several times, I'm on it for life, so is my wife.
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Point well taken about the blood work. Now as far as you never being able to come off of the T4 dosage, are you able to say why that is? Are you naturally hypothyroid? Or was this induced by the use of HGH or the use of self-prescribed Thyroid meds?
 

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