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So, what do you guys prefer when it comes to how much test and tren you put into a cycle? I was thinking 600/300 test/tren ratio, but I'm starting to lean more towards a high tren low test ratio, which is what a lot of people say works best in relation to sides and so on.

So far, the foundation of next cycle looks something like :

8 Week Cycle
1-8 Test Prop
1-8 Tren Ace
1-8 Proviron

I just need help with dosages, cycle I'm on rn is 600 mg of Test E.

The goal is a lean bulk, diet will be on point. Just trying to put on as much lean muscle as possible.
 
Lean bulk, keep your test higher, for a cutter for example my pre comp cycle ill be running 350mg of test ew and 525mgs of tren ew, just becuase my goal is not muscle gain, just to retain everything I have, and keep water retention lower with the lower test. But Last summer i bulked on tren and I had my test at 500 and tren at 600. Definitely not a beginner dose of tren, that wasnt my first rodeo with tren so dont start there. But you will gain more muscle keeping a decent dose of test in there with your tren. I like your first plan 500-600mgs of test and 300mgs of tren. Tren if you have a good cook is strong shit, 300mgs will work wonders, and 500mgs of testosterone is powerful in inself, That right there willl throw a decent amount of lbm on you.

How many cycles have you ran before? What dopamine agonist do you plan on using for the tren or keeping on hand? And just know pct is gonna fucking suck, tren will shut you down harder then any other compound youve ever taken by a long shot, during pct youll be wishing you never ran it lol. So id suggeset running hcg the entire cycle right up until 4 days before pct, and have a strong pct ready to go.

Youre on 600mgs of test e right now? I hope youve ran a decent number of cycles with some other more compounds first like eq mast npp etc. going from a basic cycle to the most advanced compound is plain old stupid. You build up over time and gain experience, you dont jump from running 1 or 2 test only cycles to a trenbolone cycle. Ive said this many times, If i didnt compete i wouldnt ever run tren, Its not necesssary for anyone, hell i know people who compete and win BIG shows without tren. For the average gym rat trying to get shredded some prop var and proviron is all you need.
 
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I much prefer running Test as a base to keep everything in check and running Tren as high as can be tolerated. Let your energy/caloric intake dictate whether you are bulking or cutting. The science behind running Tren higher and keeping a TRT-ish dose of Test in is that it frees up space on the AR for the more potent compound (Tren) to bind without having to fight the Test for space. You will most definitely notice less sides running Tren this way, also.

Im 8 weeks into a 300 Test/700 Tren/wk lean bulk right now. I have a log in the logs section where I have been posting weekly update pics. Im 15lbs up and leaner and more vascular. Feel free to check it out bro.

good luck
 
@traininsane
Yea, I asked a week ago on the forums what they thought about jumping into a heavy duty cycle like tren while being a relative novice, and they said it was fine as long as you got your shit together. But, tren seems to be the god of aas, which is why it's so alluring. I was thinking I'd just go with the acetate tren and see how it rides out, if the sides are too much, cut it immediately, and re-dose accordingly. Won't know how my body handles it till i try it, right? It just seems like there isn't anything that will hit as well as tren does, but if anyone here has suggestions for a cycle that will help put on serious lean lbs, I'm all ears. Researching prop/var cycles rn.

@theShadow
Checking out your log asap, brother.
 
Tren binds to androgen receptors like nothing else. You should run low test with high tren and add in some winstrol for SHGB binding to free up some Test...proviron would help also. 20mg of oral winstrol a day is all you need. Other than that this ain't the Olympia and lean bulks are gay as fuck.

Have a nice day.
 
I'll be running a Prop/tren ace cycle in mid summer at 300 and 500 mgs respectively. Probably add some var too
 
raysd21 said:
Tren binds to androgen receptors like nothing else. You should run low test with high tren and add in some winstrol for SHGB binding to free up some Test...proviron would help also. 20mg of oral winstrol a day is all you need. Other than that this ain't the Olympia and lean bulks are gay as fuck.

Have a nice day.
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yeah I'm running 20mgs of Winstrol with my tren and test now, makes a big difference. Proviron is my first choice, was taking 50mg/day, ran out, switched to masteron and it wasn't doing near as good at mitigating sides as viron, so added in some winstrol and boom... much better. 600mg test e with 300mg tren e is about as much as I care to run, sides just get too bad. Right now I'm running 500mg test E, 500mg Mast E, 250mg Tren E, 20mg Winstrol.
 
TrainInsane89 said:
Lean bulk, keep your test higher, for a cutter for example my pre comp cycle ill be running 350mg of test ew and 525mgs of tren ew, just becuase my goal is not muscle gain, just to retain everything I have, and keep water retention lower with the lower test. But Last summer i bulked on tren and I had my test at 500 and tren at 600. Definitely not a beginner dose of tren, that wasnt my first rodeo with tren so dont start there. But you will gain more muscle keeping a decent dose of test in there with your tren. I like your first plan 500-600mgs of test and 300mgs of tren. Tren if you have a good cook is strong shit, 300mgs will work wonders, and 500mgs of testosterone is powerful in inself, That right there willl throw a decent amount of lbm on you.

How many cycles have you ran before? What dopamine agonist do you plan on using for the tren or keeping on hand? And just know pct is gonna fucking suck, tren will shut you down harder then any other compound youve ever taken by a long shot, during pct youll be wishing you never ran it lol. So id suggeset running hcg the entire cycle right up until 4 days before pct, and have a strong pct ready to go.

Youre on 600mgs of test e right now? I hope youve ran a decent number of cycles with some other more compounds first like eq mast npp etc. going from a basic cycle to the most advanced compound is plain old stupid. You build up over time and gain experience, you dont jump from running 1 or 2 test only cycles to a trenbolone cycle. Ive said this many times, If i didnt compete i wouldnt ever run tren, Its not necesssary for anyone, hell i know people who compete and win BIG shows without tren. For the average gym rat trying to get shredded some prop var and proviron is all you need.
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I like this advice brother. Well written post man
 

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