PCT help - conflicting information

[Turnswa]

First ever cycle 23yro, sust250 350mg PW pinning EOD (will adjust dosage depending on sides / gains)

I have arimidex incase I need it and enclomiphene for pct so far

Before I start my cycle I want to make sure I have everything I need

Some people are saying the enclo will be fine alone and I don’t need to use 2 SERMS on pct (such as nolva + clomid) and HCG is arguably only good for during the cycle

To be safe should I get Nolva and HCG to run with my enclo or would enclo alone be fine?

Any input or advice would be greatly appreciated

 

[rdm]

Did you get blood work to see where your natural Test levels are at?

 

[samgraves82]

I've seen the "perfect pct" protocol a thousand times but I have no personal experience with a pct so I try not to speak on it. I have seen people ur age do that dose for 12 weeks and jounce back fine with nothing tho

 

[Turnswa]

Did you get blood work to see where your natural Test levels are at?

Hey, I got my BW 2 days ago should be received this week

Unrelated but in Australia here we use a different measurement other than Ng/dl but there’s probs a conversion method

 

[Turnswa]

I've seen the "perfect pct" protocol a thousand times but I have no personal experience with a pct so I try not to speak on it. I have seen people ur age do that dose for 12 weeks and jounce back fine with nothing tho

Yeah true, thanks bro

It seems some people do the “perfect” PCT and it doesn’t seem to do much for them and others can do no PCT and they bounce back completely fine, it’s so weird how different everyone is

 

[Fletcher]

Mistake 1: sustanon instead of single ester, very difficult to dial in a.i. dosage.
Sustanon is:
1 short ester
2 medium esters
1 very long ester

You will not be getting 350mgs test per week.
Week 1 will be about 50mgs test
Week 8 will be more like 450mgs test because of overlapping long ester doses, lingering medium ester doses, and current week's short ester doses.

Mistake 2: arimidex, makes it even more difficult to dial in a.i. and not crash estro.
How many mgs arimidex will you use when you wont even know how many mgs test are in your system from one week to the next?

Mistake 3, 4 & 5: nolvdex, enclomiphene & hcg.

Mistake 6: planning "PCT"

I apologize for being blunt but this looks like a cycle from 2005 based on "a buddy of mine said".

We see way too much of this shit and I cant even anymore.

Why are you here?

Why are you asking for advice AFTER already buying gear for a cycle you planned without the needed advice?

If you had spend even a few hours reading 1% of the thousands of "1st cycle" posts here... this post wouldn't even be necessary.

 

[big_rich]

I just recently went the blast cruise route. since 2008 I have always ran a pct. Tamoxifen and clomid has always worked wonders for me. I used hcg once but didn't notice a difference as apposed to just tamox and clomid.
Tamox 40402020
Clomid 50505050
This is the protocol I have always used. The last pct I did I threw in some proviron which helped with mood. Anyone that does or has done a pct knows its tough mentally. Clomid makes me emotional 50mg is my sweet spot.