How would you get rid of still puffy nips from old cycle

[weizen]

What cracks me up here is everyone is suggesting letro when he clearly said; he has no lumps/mass,no pain,or ball/knot of any sorts, but because we are in a BBing forum among AAS users, people are fast to toss Estro supports and/or inhibitors into the equation as a solution, deeming it the only alternative to correct his situation..Yet, none here posses any understanding on his diet, or sensitive to certain composites of even minerals that he may be consuming (and quite possibly sensitive to) in his food/diet for that matter....

Hands down,I bet this is diet related due to a genetic predisposition (regardless of his low body fat)

I'm going to think outside the box here, because he simply has just "puffy nipples" that is all, and I can 100000% guarantee it could be corrected by merely adjusting his diet...

I'm gonna say he has a sensitivity to "Gluten" and/or "sodium"...Remove gluten entirely and you will see his puffy nipples go BYE-BYE..far as the sodium, just limit his intake and yield the same effect!


On that note, I wonder how he made out?

This is really the reason to use Letro (in terms of reversal properties). The studies that indicate any type of regression involve tumors. I have never seen anything that talks about getting rid of swollen nips or moobs other than reading posts from people claiming it worked for their friend. One in depth study of regression showed a very significant reduction in tumors that were estrogen receptor related in women with cancer. The study showed 75% of the subjects demonstrated objective results; meaning they made significant progress in the study. The length of time that showed the most benefit to run Letro was 1 year. The women who ran it 1 year showed "disappearance" of lesions at a rate of 38%.

I think the drug is very useful in certain instances. I find it beneficial for lumps and such as Vision pointed out. I don't find it practical in the sense that most of us think it to be with respect to gyno. I don't want to take away from anyone's positive experience with it, but placebos can give someone a positive experience too. If my nipples showed signs of the start of gyno and I took this shit as a way to "nuke" it and all the sudden it got better, what else did I do besides control the estrogen? I could have done that with other drugs too. Reversing is totally different than diminishing E2 sides.

I would also like to see before and after pictures for the benefits of Letro. Again, if I took it, I might think it is helping, but a disinterested third party might not see a difference and in that alone, Letro is not useful to "reverse" gyno because I want to feel better about the way I look. The idea is visual appearance. If it does not produce visual differences, it is not helping the way someone wants it too.

As far as diet, I can't comment. I'll take Vision's word on that. I just know that Letro is not the cure-all.

 

[Vision]

If you have no lumps or mass on your ducts,no sign of old/existing gyno then it Sounds like fat deposit to me..When was the last time you calculated your body fat?

This is really the reason to use Letro (in terms of reversal properties). The studies that indicate any type of regression involve tumors. I have never seen anything that talks about getting rid of swollen nips or moobs other than reading posts from people claiming it worked for their friend. One in depth study of regression showed a very significant reduction in tumors that were estrogen receptor related in women with cancer. The study showed 75% of the subjects demonstrated objective results; meaning they made significant progress in the study. The length of time that showed the most benefit to run Letro was 1 year. The women who ran it 1 year showed "disappearance" of lesions at a rate of 38%.

I think the drug is very useful in certain instances. I find it beneficial for lumps and such as Vision pointed out. I don't find it practical in the sense that most of us think it to be with respect to gyno. I don't want to take away from anyone's positive experience with it, but placebos can give someone a positive experience too. If my nipples showed signs of the start of gyno and I took this shit as a way to "nuke" it and all the sudden it got better, what else did I do besides control the estrogen? I could have done that with other drugs too. Reversing is totally different than diminishing E2 sides.

I would also like to see before and after pictures for the benefits of Letro. Again, if I took it, I might think it is helping, but a disinterested third party might not see a difference and in that alone, Letro is not useful to "reverse" gyno because I want to feel better about the way I look. The idea is visual appearance. If it does not produce visual differences, it is not helping the way someone wants it too.

As far as diet, I can't comment. I'll take Vision's word on that. I just know that Letro is not the cure-all.

Great post as always Weiz,

Far as Letro, this method (supposed cure) has been regurgitated and spouted recklessly throughout the forums for years, without ANY SOLID EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT!
All letro will do is minimally reduce the inflammation by entirely removing E2 completely (not a wise thing, as we need estro)..NO MEDICATION WILL REMOVE GYNO!

There's forms of treatment to hinder further growth, and minimize local inflammation within the "glandular tissue", and the most effective method is in fact Tamox, due to its binding affinity to the receptors..You can utilize Tamox long term at low dosages, UNLIKE letro, where you may acquire a slew of health/sexual related issue..

The problem is with the "Glandular tissue" being sensitize to E1/E2,the localize tissue on the male breast,the receptors being dependent..You can take all the AI's you wish, but they don't have a direct course of action that targets these receptors solely (glandular breast tissue)..All your doing is removing E2 from the entire endocrine (static system),thus giving the appearance that it's targeting the glands directly, at the same time failing to provide the rest of the body's functions with estro in which it needs to operate as each hormone has a partnership that influence each other to create a state of balance within, as the system of checks try to create..

Treatment should be to target,not annihilate and obliterate (unless it's cancerous)...The only PROVEN method to remove gyno is with a "Scalpel" or "laser"!

Any other medication is merely treatment!

 

[ROID]

I thought I read he had solid masses.

anyway, letro reduced the puffiness on both my nips significantly but I have masses.

Correct answer is Treadmill.

 

[zjr7]

Should letro be kept on hand in case of any problems? Or is running aromasin from the start enough? Going to be running first cycle test only


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[Vision]

Should letro be kept on hand in case of any problems? Or is running aromasin from the start enough? Going to be running first cycle test only


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This is something that depends on the user,and their sensitively levels,from how they feel on low estro,to exactly how much estro is binding, there's some many different scenarios..Its wise to have anti's and tamox on hand..each plays a pivotal role, and can be used differently but sharing the same common goal!

 

[zjr7]

Ok my original plan was to just run aromasin starting a couple weeks in through my entire cycle to avoid sides. But being my first I want to have absolutely everything I may possibly need before I start.


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[Vision]

Ok my original plan was to just run aromasin starting a couple weeks in through my entire cycle to avoid sides. But being my first I want to have absolutely everything I may possibly need before I start.


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proper planning will yield best results, have everything you need lined up,including blood-work if its possible..Have everything you need to assist with with potential situations, whether its hypothetical or not, always be prepared.. get everything you need, and I suggest getting bloods prior to starting to know have a good indicator of where you are without..you will need to compare bloods.. I would suggest low dose of aromasin, you dont need much, and the half life is rather long and much longer then people think..its shown to have lasting effects days after the the entire medication has been metabolized..

 

[zjr7]

Thanks for the info. Not rushing into this so I have plenty of time to adjust and get everything I need. I was planning on using the aromasin at a low dose EOD and only up it if I have any sides.


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[REHH]

Thanks for the info. Not rushing into this so I have plenty of time to adjust and get everything I need. I was planning on using the aromasin at a low dose EOD and only up it if I have any sides.


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I think your best bet is to use the aromasin and have nolvadex on hand to supplement. For me personally aromasin works good up to about 700mg week test, then I have to add nolvadex. I have very sensitive glands though, some people don't.

 

[veniceboy]

I think your best bet is to use the aromasin and have nolvadex on hand to supplement. For me personally aromasin works good up to about 700mg week test, then I have to add nolvadex. I have very sensitive glands though, some people don't.

I know guys who run only nolvadex without an AI... Personally i wouldnt do it, because all that excess estrogen flouting around isnt a good thing... BUT a low dose aromasin and a low dose nolva (10-20mg) would be a good choice imo. especially when someones trying to add size, i would not crush estrogen 2 much. I dont care if my face looks a bit bloated, as long as im growing its all fine lol. Im very sensitive just like you, but then i would suggest less aromatizing compounds...