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How would you get rid of still puffy nips from old cycle

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I did a cycle some time back of test and tren and my x at the time found my cycle support stash and trashed it bc she was an amazing woman let me tell you but that's another conversation. I got a knot under one nip and they both of course got puffy. Eventually I got some more support and got it under control but the damage was done. Now I still have a little fatty/puffy to them but nothing crazy, no knots under them. Any recommendations to fix this issue from anyone that has experience? Letro or straight to the knife and the doc are the only two I have found that I have heard legit work.
 
Letro and also caber or prami are your best bet. The older the gyno, the harder it is to get rid of but it's not impossible. You'll just loose your sex drive while getting rid of it but that's better than having puffy nipples forever.
 
If you have no lumps or mass on your ducts,no sign of old/existing gyno then it Sounds like fat deposit to me..When was the last time you calculated your body fat?
 
If you have no lumps or mass on your ducts,no sign of old/existing gyno then it Sounds like fat deposit to me..When was the last time you calculated your body fat?

Makes sense. Good catch vision. Might be as cheap and easy as changing up the diet.
 
A while back I got burned by some bunk aromasin on cycle and and developed a lump under my nipples. I picked up some legit aromasin and ran 1 week at 25mg ed, a few weeks at 12.5mg ed, and finally 12.5mg eod for a few more weeks. I ran that with mast at150mg eod with just 125mg test per week for 6 weeks after my test/npp cycle and the lumps went away. I didn't get labs done until after that cycle but everything was pretty much in range and the lumps haven't come back yet.

I'd definitely try getting rid of it with something besides high dose letro first if it were me.
 
Body fat is pretty decent prob around 10 I would say just by eyeballing bc I used to have such a high metabolism I used to run around at 4-5% and eat whatever I wanted and do no cardio. Little did I know back then it wouldn't be forever damn it. They aren't super puffy and their isn't any lumps under and no pain etc. Just notice that sometimes when I have my chest flexed certain ways or I'm just moving around you can still see what is prob in essence the fatty tissue left around the nips. Standing straight up and just looking you can't tell at all just when I move at times I notice and and as well all know we are our own worst critic when it comes to our bodies. It has def been some time since I had the bf calculated. I'm going to get down to about 5% and see what they look like from there. If I still have issues I'll prob be going to the letro or caber/dos route and see how that works out. Thanks for the input guys.
 
I would say you aren't judging your body fat percentage right. Post a pic.

5% is contest bf and shredded as shit.
 
Body fat is pretty decent prob around 10 I would say just by eyeballing bc I used to have such a high metabolism I used to run around at 4-5% and eat whatever I wanted and do no cardio. Little did I know back then it wouldn't be forever damn it. They aren't super puffy and their isn't any lumps under and no pain etc. Just notice that sometimes when I have my chest flexed certain ways or I'm just moving around you can still see what is prob in essence the fatty tissue left around the nips. Standing straight up and just looking you can't tell at all just when I move at times I notice and and as well all know we are our own worst critic when it comes to our bodies. It has def been some time since I had the bf calculated. I'm going to get down to about 5% and see what they look like from there. If I still have issues I'll prob be going to the letro or caber/dos route and see how that works out. Thanks for the input guys.

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If you can afford it get those glands cut out you never have to worrie about gyno ever again..
 
If you can afford it get those glands cut out you never have to worrie about gyno ever again..

My consultation was yesterday, 2500.00 awake, 3500.00 asleep. Think I'll be paying the extra grand to be asleep. Surgery late november, can't wait to get this shit cut out.
 
A lot of alcohol. A razor blade and scissors. And some good insurance. Some hydrocodones would be a plus too.
 
I didn't bother reading any of the replies because the only correct answer is Letro .
 
Using Letro to remove Gyno is old school . I blatantly ripped this from another forum, but I will credit the original poster:

Austinite said:
How do I reverse gynecomastia?


Letrozole is an aromatase inhibitor. One of the most powerful aromatase inhibitors available today. Far too many people are considering this method because many moons ago it was touted as a good tool for reversal. We've learned a lot since then and Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERM) studies on gynecomastia reversal are readily available for confirmation.

I did a short experiment myself recently when my E2 came back at 46 pg/mL (Range < 29 for a sensitive E2 assay). I did not experience gynecomastia, but I wanted to bring that down back to range. The increase was likely due to switching my Testosterone Therapy administrations from subcutaneous (SubQ) to intramuscular (IM). IM injections have more of an impact on E2 due to faster absorption. This result came about on July 2nd. I had a Letrozole prescription laying around and figured I'd give it a go. It's been so long since I've used Letrozole. My prescription was for 100 microgram capsules.
I administered 100 mcg. (Micrograms) daily. After the 10th day I felt miserable and so I discontinued use. One week after I stopped, I tested E2 again and it came back 2 pg/mL. Remember, this is a full week after Letrozole was discontinued. So it had to be at zero, or "too low to count" for several days. I was bedridden for several days. Completely useless and couldn't find a reason to get up and about. If you've killed your E2 before, you know exactly what I mean. I don't wish this on anyone. Really amazes me that some folks are running this thing using milligram after milligram several times per week. And these "Gynecomastia Reversal" threads using these astronomical doses are just mind boggling. Pretty eye opening once again. Anyway, I waited a while and got back on DIM.

The entire letrozole for gynecomastia reversal came about in 2001 when a study was published. This study was done on mice, not humans. So don't be a mouse, be a man. PMID: 11850204, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11850204 if you want to look it up.



To give you an example of how low this drug is supposed to be dosed, it was studied in extremely obese hypogonadal men. Overweight men convert far more estrogen than non-overweight men. This is because they carry far more aromatase enzymes. Using Letrozole, these highly aromatizing men were treated with doses of 2mg to 2.5mg once per week. If we break that up, you're looking at about 285 micrograms per day. That's it. This powerful drug never, under any circumstances should be used in a milligram + basis on a daily administered protocol. It is simply outrageous. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18426834





So we've learned a couple things here. We know that an Aromatase Inhibitor is a poor choice, and we also learned that SERM's are more effective, safer and with no side effects. Lastly, we learned that while Tamoxifen is effective, it is superseded by the superior SERM; Raloxifene.

Aromatase inhibitors are not selective and will demolish your estradiol levels with prolonged use, rendering you miserable and useless. In the case of Letrozole, you could deplete your E2 levels to nothing in no time. SERMs like Tamoxifen and Raloxifene are pure antagonist in the E receptor in breast tissue. This is what mainly makes a SERM the clinically preferred drug for gynecomastia reversal.



TO REVERSE GYNECOMASTIA WITH SERMS:

Raloxifene: 60mg daily for 10 days, then 30mg daily util reversed. You should see improvement in approx. 4 to 6 weeks. If you choose to run 60 mg daily until it's gone, do not exceed 60 days.
Tamoxifen: 40mg daily for one week. Then 20mg daily until gynecomastia is reversed.

Both protocols above will take time. This is not a 2 week process. Reversal will require patience. But it most certainly is effective, side-effect-free and cost incredibly effective when compared to surgery Raloxifene is the superior compound today for reversing gynecomastia. It can be dosed on or off cycle at 60mg daily up to 80mg daily until your gynecomastia is reversed.

Frequently Asked Questions:
1. Can I use Letrozole to reverse gynecomastia?
--- No. This is a very old school method and should never be attempted. We've advanced and we know better today.

2. What should I use to reverse gynecomastia?
--- See the links above. Raloxifene or Tamoxifen are the 2 proven SERMs to work.


--Austinite
 
My consultation was yesterday, 2500.00 awake, 3500.00 asleep. Think I'll be paying the extra grand to be asleep. Surgery late november, can't wait to get this shit cut out.

How long without training after surgery?

If its more than a month i would jump on high dose of hgh to speed up recovery.
 
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old school huh ?

if you have a solid mass surgery is the only option.

Nothing exists that will reverse gyno.
 
Letro is not the answer for gyno. Gynecomastia also gets thrown around in such a general way that there is no discrimination between hard masses of breast tissue, fatty breast tissue that one developed in life outside of AAS, puffy nipples, and itchy/sore nipples. It is all understandably the same thing in a sense, but when someone says they treated their gyno (itchy nips) with Letro and it got rid of it (no more itching), someone who doesn't know much about this stuff reads that and thinks their gyno (fatty tissue developed before AAS or even after poor AAS usage) will go away, because it worked for the other guy.
 
How long without training after surgery?

If its more than a month i would jump on high dose of hgh to speed up recovery.

A good friend of mine got the surgery. Doc said no training for TWO MONTHS. He got the itch and did a workout on WEEK SIX. Pain was so bad it laid him off the weights for a total of three months. He also had to wear a pouch attached to a tube on his chest draining fluid for some time and a push up bra type thing for at least a month. He has a couple scars though he has a very light skin complexion. But... The gland is gone permanently...


Edit... It cost him $2500

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I'm gonna bite

Explain to me what you are talking about ?

I'm speaking from personal experience.
 
I was just joking about adding all that other bs in. I'm just explaining the difference in the gyno people are talking about. What I mean is that if you grew up with moobs or developed moobs from AAS, Letro will not cure that. For the sensitive nips/itchy nips/sore nips, it will help. It will prevent the onset of more development as an AI should. Reversing gyno is a misconception about Letro. All of the studies where Letro is used in the form of gyno protection explains it to control the aromatase action to reduce the gyno by means of controlling E2. Less E2 is better for breast tissue.
 
I would rather stay on tren for 10 years straight than using letro again. Letro is the devil. I hate this drug, makes me lethargic and i feel like dying.
 
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What cracks me up here is everyone is suggesting letro when he clearly said; he has no lumps/mass,no pain,or ball/knot of any sorts, but because we are in a BBing forum among AAS users, people are fast to toss Estro supports and/or inhibitors into the equation as a solution, deeming it the only alternative to correct his situation:wits:..Yet, none here posses any understanding on his diet, or sensitive to certain composites of even minerals that he may be consuming (and quite possibly sensitive to) in his food/diet for that matter:hmm:....

Hands down,I bet this is diet related due to a genetic predisposition (regardless of his low body fat)

I'm going to think outside the box here, because he simply has just "puffy nipples" that is all, and I can 100000% guarantee it could be corrected by merely adjusting his diet...

I'm gonna say he has a sensitivity to "Gluten" and/or "sodium"...Remove gluten entirely and you will see his puffy nipples go BYE-BYE..far as the sodium, just limit his intake and yield the same effect!


On that note, I wonder how he made out?:thinking:
 
How long without training after surgery?

If its more than a month i would jump on high dose of hgh to speed up recovery.


Back to work within a week, back in gym 3 weeks, but that probably does not include chest, they didn't specify though.

yeah Letro makes me feel like shit too, sux.
 

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