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Wardamn said:
I would say it's coping for younger guys to say that when they have never been big.

If you have ever been big it's not the most ideal spot to live life as you get older. It makes a lot of simple tasks much more difficult
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LOL I would like to spend a week of my life knowing what its like not being able to tie my shoes, just for a little bit haha.
 
Whats the hate for Meetketchup? I feel like it is a good ying and yang sort of thing if you have guys saying "yolo do as much gear as you can tolerate" and other guys saying "do less gear think about your health".

I like to hear both perspectives.
 
damaged1 said:
LOL I would like to spend a week of my life knowing what its like not being able to tie my shoes, just for a little bit haha.
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No you don’t. I was just talking about this today. I cannot currently put my socks on. I leave my shoes tied loosely and slip into them.

I’m so fucking uncomfortable.
 
damaged1 said:
Whats the hate for Meetketchup? I feel like it is a good ying and yang sort of thing if you have guys saying "yolo do as much gear as you can tolerate" and other guys saying "do less gear think about your health".

I like to hear both perspectives.
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If you read the thread other than the Mustard comments you would see that everyone taking high dosages is on top of their health markers.

Why tell people to take the minimum effective dosage if you can take triple or quadruple that and not see any negative impact on your blood markers?
 
damaged1 said:
LOL I would like to spend a week of my life knowing what its like not being able to tie my shoes, just for a little bit haha.
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My sleep apnea has gotten to the point when I stop breathing and wake up, I still can’t breathe for about 10 seconds. I’m genuinely concerned if I fall asleep without my cpap that I may die in my sleep or have a stroke.

Don’t get me wrong, I fucking love this shit. But pushing this much food and putting on 53lbs in about 15 weeks has been utterly brutal.
 
damaged1 said:
Whats the hate for Meetketchup? I feel like it is a good ying and yang sort of thing if you have guys saying "yolo do as much gear as you can tolerate" and other guys saying "do less gear think about your health".

I like to hear both perspectives.
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I don't hate Mustard. I honestly don't know why me asking him to post a physique pic would be such a big deal considering how long he has been here, how active he is on this board, and his overall board status. Unless.... He is a fraud or something. I can only speak for myself and what I've seen. And honestly my issue seems to be way different than guys like @thebiggestdumbass based on his posts in this thread.

I've watched Mustard hold some sort of guru status on this forum since I joined. I used to respect the status because it seemed like he had earned it. But if you pay close attention, there are holes... My post to him earlier in this thread kind of outlines how he treats people on this board:

Oakley6575 said:
I thought I was pretty clear with what I said, I'll elaborate further I guess. I've noticed if people you don't coach on this board make good progress, you constantly post about them having good genetics, implying that is why they are making progress. Not hard work, good training, diet, etc. Good genetics :ROFLMAO:. OR you go into their thread, criticize one part of their plan, but have zero desire to discuss your reasonings for criticizing. If guys on here are progressing but you know they have a coach, you are absent in those threads. When your clients make good progress, you post about how well they did following your plan. It's crazy egotistical. You post in every single new thread that pops up with your 2 cents. You just run around this board coach baiting from every angle. You post zero pictures of yourself. Don't run a log yourself. Don't share anything that has to do with you, but expect everyone to take your word as gospel.
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Ironically, after I said that to him yesterday, he spends his morning here going into guys threads who have another coach, and patting them on the back about their progress. What a coincidence. :ROFLMAO:

If you question any of his advice, or try to get him to explain his reasonings for things, he ghosts the thread from that point on. It's almost like he actually has zero idea what he's talking about.

I've watched him come into my log, and many others logs, criticize or question why they are doing something, and then ghost the thread... Again either because he is clueless, or he is coach baiting.. Making it seem like he knows something they don't know which entices them to reach out to him for help.

The oddest part of the guy, is that he has all these clients from ASF, and I'm assuming none of them even know what he looks like. For all we know, he could be a cheetos finger licking fat ass that sits behind a computer screen and uses Grok to coach his clients. From what I've personally seen since I've been here, he doesn't have a log, he has never posted a single photo of himself, claims he is a competitive bodybuilder, claims he has been coaching forever, yada yada yada. But there is never any proof of any of it.

So again, how big and experienced is he? From what he said in my log, he is bigger than me. He has a good 10lbs of tissue on me. But does he? All of us take this shit pretty seriously and dedicate a lot of time, attention, and effort into this sport. Does this guru do the same or is he a fraud?

Has anyone else noticed that he's ghosted this thread after I asked for a picture of him? Anyone who is actually who they say they are would have zero issue posting a stage shot with their face blacked out, and background erased, blurred, blacked out, or whatever.

For Mustards clients, I hope I'm way off here and he is a fucking beast of a bodybuilder, but all signs are pointing in the opposite direction.
 
I never had any ambitions to do any high amounts of gear (highest I gone is 600 Test/500 Primo, 10mg Dbol pre workout when I feel wild/crazy) until I read this fvcking thread! I guess I been wasting time 🤬

Now I'm planning my next cycle that will start with at least 1g of Test and then whatever to fill up to a couple of more G’s… I thought I had Primo for 2 more cycles but it might just be enough to a half a cycle… thanks guys… 😬
 
PRorER said:
Is it really your “primed” after that true TRT or is it going from 200mg with everything cleaned out to 2g is a massive jump? I know anytime I’ve dropped to TRT for extended periods of time then gone full blast it definitely feels like I’m starting gear for the first time again
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I think a lot of it is honestly psychological
 
Oakley6575 said:
I don't hate Mustard. I honestly don't know why me asking him to post a physique pic would be such a big deal considering how long he has been here, how active he is on this board, and his overall board status. Unless.... He is a fraud or something. I can only speak for myself and what I've seen. And honestly my issue seems to be way different than guys like @thebiggestdumbass based on his posts in this thread.

I've watched Mustard hold some sort of guru status on this forum since I joined. I used to respect the status because it seemed like he had earned it. But if you pay close attention, there are holes... My post to him earlier in this thread kind of outlines how he treats people on this board:



Ironically, after I said that to him yesterday, he spends his morning here going into guys threads who have another coach, and patting them on the back about their progress. What a coincidence. :ROFLMAO:

If you question any of his advice, or try to get him to explain his reasonings for things, he ghosts the thread from that point on. It's almost like he actually has zero idea what he's talking about.

I've watched him come into my log, and many others logs, criticize or question why they are doing something, and then ghost the thread... Again either because he is clueless, or he is coach baiting.. Making it seem like he knows something they don't know which entices them to reach out to him for help.

The oddest part of the guy, is that he has all these clients from ASF, and I'm assuming none of them even know what he looks like. For all we know, he could be a cheetos finger licking fat ass that sits behind a computer screen and uses Grok to coach his clients. From what I've personally seen since I've been here, he doesn't have a log, he has never posted a single photo of himself, claims he is a competitive bodybuilder, claims he has been coaching forever, yada yada yada. But there is never any proof of any of it.

So again, how big and experienced is he? From what he said in my log, he is bigger than me. He has a good 10lbs of tissue on me. But does he? All of us take this shit pretty seriously and dedicate a lot of time, attention, and effort into this sport. Does this guru do the same or is he a fraud?

Has anyone else noticed that he's ghosted this thread after I asked for a picture of him? Anyone who is actually who they say they are would have zero issue posting a stage shot with their face blacked out, and background erased, blurred, blacked out, or whatever.

For Mustards clients, I hope I'm way off here and he is a fucking beast of a bodybuilder, but all signs are pointing in the opposite direction.
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Some of his clients look like they are having life changing transformations. Haven’t seen any mass monsters but I haven’t really looked. But some older guys like myself went from fat to ripped. So I think that is good. Everyone has different goals.
Like part of me wants to be big but man I’m 54 and 175 pounds. I don’t care how much gear I take I know I’ll not touch 250 pounds unless it’s all fat lol.
 
Oakley6575 said:
Ironically, after I said that to him yesterday, he spends his morning here going into guys threads who have another coach, and patting them on the back about their progress. What a coincidence. :ROFLMAO:
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well maybe he did some self reflection and corrected himself 🤷 like u wanted
 
damaged1 said:
Some of his clients look like they are having life changing transformations. Haven’t seen any mass monsters but I haven’t really looked. But some older guys like myself went from fat to ripped. So I think that is good. Everyone has different goals.
Like part of me wants to be big but man I’m 54 and 175 pounds. I don’t care how much gear I take I know I’ll not touch 250 pounds unless it’s all fat lol.
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I don't remember if I said this my post above, but I don't think he is a bad coach. He seems to be able to get the average guy lean enough to have abs. That is what 99% of guys want. As you pointed out, I've never seen him take someone from a lean state, and pack muscle on them. I could be 100% wrong about that, but I've never seen it since i've been here. He tells everyone to run low doses and tells them they can make substantial gains on doses like that, but.... where is the proof of that? I've never seen him get anyone stage lean. I've never seen him stage lean. I've never seen if he even has any muscle on him. Has anyone?

My point is, he always puts his 2 cents in, but never has any evidence that he has the real world experience or knowledge to give the advice or input in the first place. I think a lot of guys that listen to him, and even worse, hire him, are doing that because of this false status he has curated on the board by saturating every thread with his presence.

Valdosta said:
well maybe he did some self reflection and corrected himself 🤷 like u wanted
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I think that is exactly what happened. But I don't know since he has not responded since I questioned his legitimacy.
 
Oakley6575 said:
I don't hate Mustard. I honestly don't know why me asking him to post a physique pic would be such a big deal considering how long he has been here, how active he is on this board, and his overall board status. Unless.... He is a fraud or something. I can only speak for myself and what I've seen. And honestly my issue seems to be way different than guys like @thebiggestdumbass based on his posts in this thread.
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Oakley6575 said:
I've watched Mustard hold some sort of guru status on this forum since I joined. I used to respect the status because it seemed like he had earned it. But if you pay close attention, there are holes... My post to him earlier in this thread kind of outlines how he treats people on this board:



Ironically, after I said that to him yesterday, he spends his morning here going into guys threads who have another coach, and patting them on the back about their progress. What a coincidence. :ROFLMAO:

If you question any of his advice, or try to get him to explain his reasonings for things, he ghosts the thread from that point on. It's almost like he actually has zero idea what he's talking about.

I've watched him come into my log, and many others logs, criticize or question why they are doing something, and then ghost the thread... Again either because he is clueless, or he is coach baiting.. Making it seem like he knows something they don't know which entices them to reach out to him for help.

The oddest part of the guy, is that he has all these clients from ASF, and I'm assuming none of them even know what he looks like. For all we know, he could be a cheetos finger licking fat ass that sits behind a computer screen and uses Grok to coach his clients. From what I've personally seen since I've been here, he doesn't have a log, he has never posted a single photo of himself, claims he is a competitive bodybuilder, claims he has been coaching forever, yada yada yada. But there is never any proof of any of it.

So again, how big and experienced is he? From what he said in my log, he is bigger than me. He has a good 10lbs of tissue on me. But does he? All of us take this shit pretty seriously and dedicate a lot of time, attention, and effort into this sport. Does this guru do the same or is he a fraud?

Has anyone else noticed that he's ghosted this thread after I asked for a picture of him? Anyone who is actually who they say they are would have zero issue posting a stage shot with their face blacked out, and background erased, blurred, blacked out, or whatever.

For Mustards clients, I hope I'm way off here and he is a fucking beast of a bodybuilder, but all signs are pointing in the opposite direction.
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So I can’t speak for anyone else and really don’t wanna get involved in the dick swinging haha but I can speak from experience that ketchup has knowledge in what he does. Now have I seen transformations from anyone besides this board no. He might not be everyone’s cup of tea but he got me to almost if not the meanest I’ve ever been without pushing drugs trt and gh. He cares tremendously in ny opinion as well. As far as anything else I can’t speak but he’s done a great job with me and this is coming from someone who’s worked with other coaches before. Granted we haven’t really entered a growth phase but the cut was done correctly and responsibly in my opinion
 
Bigjape34 said:
So I can’t speak for anyone else and really don’t wanna get involved in the dick swinging haha but I can speak from experience that ketchup has knowledge in what he does. Now have I seen transformations from anyone besides this board no. He might not be everyone’s cup of tea but he got me to almost if not the meanest I’ve ever been without pushing drugs trt and gh. He cares tremendously in ny opinion as well. As far as anything else I can’t speak but he’s done a great job with me and this is coming from someone who’s worked with other coaches before. Granted we haven’t really entered a growth phase but the cut was done correctly and responsibly in my opinion
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Glad you are having a good experience with him so far. What you explained is exactly what I've seen with a couple guys here.

Have you seen him on stage? Seen his physique? Seen his social media? Seen anything backing up the things he says? Again, I'm not bashing, or at least, I'm not trying to bash. I'm genuinely curious. And I'm not asking you to share anything about him. That is for him to do if he has nothing to hide. I'm just wondering as his client, have you seen anything more than his avatar pic about him before you signed up with him?

I've never reached out to him for coaching but if I did, I'd ask a few questions and want to know how experienced he is. I'd ask him to see some client transformations or proof that he could take me to where I wanted to go.

I signed up with Justin Harris because I've followed him since I got into this sport. He shares great info on youtube and social media like a lot of good coaches do. I've seen his face, seen his physique, seen him on stage, seen his clients, etc. He clearly knows what he is doing and does it over and over again with different guys. Ketchup.... Zero idea if he even lifts weights, let alone competes. :ROFLMAO:
 
Oakley6575 said:
Glad you are having a good experience with him so far. What you explained is exactly what I've seen with a couple guys here.

Have you seen him on stage? Seen his physique? Seen his social media? Seen anything backing up the things he says? Again, I'm not bashing, or at least, I'm not trying to bash. I'm genuinely curious. And I'm not asking you to share anything about him. That is for him to do if he has nothing to hide. I'm just wondering as his client, have you seen anything more than his avatar pic about him before you signed up with him?

I've never reached out to him for coaching but if I did, I'd ask a few questions and want to know how experienced he is. I'd ask him to see some client transformations or proof that he could take me to where I wanted to go.

I signed up with Justin Harris because I've followed him since I got into this sport. He shares great info on youtube and social media like a lot of good coaches do. I've seen his face, seen his physique, seen him on stage, seen his clients, etc. He clearly knows what he is doing and does it over and over again with different guys. Ketchup.... Zero idea if he even lifts weights, let alone competes. :ROFLMAO:
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Honestly no I haven’t seen his physique. I can’t speak attest to the knowledge and detail he goes into with me as his client and in general. We had a long talk where I asked expectations approaches etc. as with anything no one is a perfect fit for everyone. But he left no stone unturned for me. I can only give my 2 cents but with that being said I can confidently say I’ve had a productive, healthy, informative, coaching experience with someone who I truly believes cares about his clients and the board. No hard feelings for me either way haha I don’t have a dog In the issue you two have but I can’t in good conscious pass by the thread and not give him the credit I think he’s due for me. Also just my 2 cents but just cause someone doesn’t have an amazing g bodybuilding careeer and I’m not saying he doesn’t cause I don’t know but with that being said doesn’t mean you can’t be an amazing and knowledgeable coach. I agree that someone needs to at least be experienced in what their clients gk through etc. but I don’t think that equals to having to have the best physique etc. also I think we all have to remember we are on an AAS forums haha where jobs info etc might be sensitive and when we post or say something here it’s more or less open season for anyone to chime in. That’s why 90 percent of the time I take anything negative with a grain of salt cause I’m a way I’m asking for whatever feedback or responses I get lol
 
Oakley6575 said:
I'm in the middle of my growth phase. These bloods where pulled after 8 weeks of being on cycle. I'll continue on until something shows me I need to pull back and cut down.
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Like what? a blood clot? Massive headaches? dizzy spells? I'm curious as to what indicator you are waiting for? waiting for "Bad Bloods" is like having a diet that's on "on point".....

I got nothing against your doses but your lack of a plan other than to keep going until the wheels fall off is a little suspect.
 
I think you’re thinking in really broad terms here. Bloodwork besides hacking up blood or fainting or obvious things is really the ultimate indicator man. I think your turning that statement into something it either isn’t or wasn’t meant to sound like
 
Skinnyguy180 said:
Like what? a blood clot? Massive headaches? dizzy spells? I'm curious as to what indicator you are waiting for? waiting for "Bad Bloods" is like having a diet that's on "on point".....

I got nothing against your doses but your lack of a plan other than to keep going until the wheels fall off is a little suspect.
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bad bloods as in his bloodwork shows something wrong... u been here since 2012, what would you possibly think bad bloods meant? his shits perfect right now
 
Valdosta said:
bad bloods as in his bloodwork shows something wrong... u been here since 2012, what would you possibly think bad bloods meant? his shits perfect right now
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Yeah thats the point of the statement of "bad bloods" is like and "on point diet". What one person considers "bad bloods" is not standard across the board and usually when someone says they are waiting bad bloods they don't actually know what they are waiting for... What indicators? at what exact markers?

He is taking 2 grams of gear not running low doses and I guarantee he is not getting monthly blood tests... so what he waits another 6 months at those doses before getting tested again? so yeah he is waiting for side effects like I mentioned.
 
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Yeah thats the point of the statement of "bad bloods" is like and "on point diet".
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yeah the point is thats a retarded statement to make. @Oakley6575 checks a ton of boxes, lumping him in with the people with "on point diet" would be an insult to him. if it wasnt insulting yourself instead for revealing you came in here hurling stones knowing jackshit about the guy.

He's not gunna "wait til the wheels fall off." he's a smart and calculated guy and will correct things at the first squeak.
 
Valdosta said:
yeah the point is thats a retarded statement to make. @Oakley6575 checks a ton of boxes, lumping him in with the people with "on point diet" would be an insult to him. if it wasnt insulting yourself instead for revealing you came in here hurling stones knowing jackshit about the guy.

He's not gunna "wait til the wheels fall off." he's a smart and calculated guy and will correct things at the first squeak.
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Sorry I can only comment on the what was posted... this is an open forum and I don't know him from Adam.. He could be a genius for all I know but my comments on his "plan" where not insults. Those were genuine questions and comments.

Reality is there are a lot of young guys out there that are going to read that shit and think its some sort of viable "plan" and its NOT. He might have a better plan than what is described but he did not post it.

Trust me man Ive been here a long time If I wanted to insult the guy and troll him it would not be that hard.... Ask around about the old days here.
 

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