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What’s going on guys. I wanted some input and opinions on this subject. I’ve been cycling for about 11 years now and I just turned 31. I have only used test and tren, some var here and there. I’ve done 16 week blasts with test and tren and long term cruises with test. I have never experienced any major sides besides some high blood pressure a few acne breakouts and minor hair loss which all been taken care with medication. Blood work has always been “decent” but Never got gyno or lactation due to tren.

My point of this post is for the 11 years on gear I have never done a pct cycle. I have all the caber, arimidex, nolva, and clomid on hand but I have never used them and I keep on buying new supplies cause they obv expire. I know in every forum on the internet it’s completely crazy to just stop gear cold turkey but that is what I have always done throughout the 11 years of being on gear and never experienced and major side effects. Has anyone else had this experience? Does anyone else stop cold turkey? I getting ready to end another 4 month blast of test e 500mg and tren a 700 mg/week and I’m thinking of just stopping cold turkey but everything changes when your 30 so should I run a pct or stop cold turkey like I’ve been doing for past 11 years?
 
You said you ran 16 week cycles followed by long Test only cruises, you then said you’ve been stopping cold turkey for the past 11 years. Which one is it?
 
Astro95 said:
You said you ran 16 week cycles followed by long Test only cruises, you then said you’ve been stopping cold turkey for the past 11 years. Which one is it?
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In the 11 years I have been on gear, I have done 16 week blasts then also long term cruises with test only, no it has not always been right after each other. In the past 11 years I have stopped cold turkey and not have been on any compounds for months.
 
thehive91 said:
In the 11 years I have been on gear, I have done 16 week blasts then also long term cruises with test only, no it has not always been right after each other. In the past 11 years I have stopped cold turkey and not have been on any compounds for months.
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Interesting, what did you experience after coming completely off those times? Did you lose gains, experienced low test symptoms? If you never got labs after coming completely off is hard to tell where your hormones were during those times, but I’d do a pct just to be safe especially if you have the stuff.
 
Astro95 said:
Interesting, what did you experience after coming completely off those times? Did you lose gains, experienced low test symptoms? If you never got labs after coming completely off is hard to tell where your hormones were during those times, but I’d do a pct just to be safe especially if you have the stuff.
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As far as sides, nothing. Sex drive never went down. Balls came back to regular size, all good gtg. I at least expected a crazy acne break out but nothing. I kept on working out but did lose about 50% of my gains. As far as labs, no I didn’t get them done when I was fully off I should have but I felt fine.

That’s what I’m thinking and probably will do. Thanks for the input.
 
Wait so for 11 years did u ever come off everything? Or u stayed on at least test the whole 11 years?
 
808Pump said:
Wait so for 11 years did u ever come off everything? Or u stayed on at least test the whole 11 years?
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Yes ive gone months not on any compounds. Longest stretch was 9 months maybe then I would hop on test then blast with tren, then get off again. Never ran a pct
 
I hate to say I don't believe you..

But I've dealt with a few thousand clients and hundreds of patients in the past 25 years

If I had to give an educated guess, I am willing to bet you have been on some form of Test or anabolics the entire time.

You never come off or you do for a month.

So no need for a PCT.

I could be wrong but based on my experience and what you typed, that is what I would believe based on many many men who do that but claim slightly different.

Tell us the full truth...no one here gives a shit. I've been on HRT and cycles for the last 21+ years?

No one cares.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
I hate to say I don't believe you..

But I've dealt with a few thousand clients and hundreds of patients in the past 25 years

If I had to give an educated guess, I am willing to bet you have been on some form of Test or anabolics the entire time.

You never come off or you do for a month.

So no need for a PCT.

I could be wrong but based on my experience and what you typed, that is what I would believe based on many many men who do that but claim slightly different.

Tell us the full truth...no one here gives a shit. I've been on HRT and cycles for the last 21+ years?

No one cares.
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I appreciate your reply. If that was the case I would have disclosed that. I’m asking for advice so I want be as transparent as possible. I completely understand what you’re saying trt for the rest of your life is very common and something I’ll probably end up doing. But I have gone months without taking any compounds, and have stopped cold turkey everytime. In my younger years I’ve had some run in with the law and done 2 county jail bids. One 6 month and one 9 months. You can get along of things in county but gear isn’t one of them 😂
 
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And you never had issues doing that? Interesting. The rebound estrogen is a big issue. When I came off before I would get bad pimples like being in puberty all over again.

I think about 12 years ago I decided to just stay on at least test and have been doing that since.
 
Sex drive stayed fine?!?!? How? I’m sorry man but…. I know everyone is different but how can your sex drive stay the same? If you’re coming off high testosterone where you’re body’s ability to produce testosterone has been shut down and a man’s sex drive is directly attached to testosterone levels I just find it really hard to understand how this is possible. Just to make sure.. I’m not saying you’re intentionally bullshitting but perhaps you just wrote that without thinking about it. Are you sure your libido never decreased after coming off testosterone?
 
Did you ever get depressed feeling ?

I tried coming off and doing pct more than a few times but everytime I did I felt worthless and non-motivated. So that’s why I just stay on trt now.

I want to try to come off and just see if my hpta is fried but I’m scared that life will suck
 
TheOldJJdigs said:
Sex drive stayed fine?!?!? How? I’m sorry man but…. I know everyone is different but how can your sex drive stay the same? If you’re coming off high testosterone where you’re body’s ability to produce testosterone has been shut down and a man’s sex drive is directly attached to testosterone levels I just find it really hard to understand how this is possible. Just to make sure.. I’m not saying you’re intentionally bullshitting but perhaps you just wrote that without thinking about it. Are you sure your libido never decreased after coming off testosterone?
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Hahaha I’m not bullshitting, I had more libido issues starting finasteride then stopping 500mg test/ 700mg tren cold turkey. At first I just thought it’s cause I was young but that stayed the same in my late 20s. Always at full mass when waking up in the morning
 
Milford King said:
Did you ever get depressed feeling ?

I tried coming off and doing pct more than a few times but everytime I did I felt worthless and non-motivated. So that’s why I just stay on trt now.

I want to try to come off and just see if my hpta is fried but I’m scared that life will suck
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No not really, the on depressed feeling is on that like 5th month when you truly see all the gains you got on cycle disappear. But you understand that’s the process. I’d chill for a little then hop back on again.
 
Yea fucking libido goes to the shitter post cycle think I lost a few relationships because of it

Good for you I personally wouldn't take my chances stopping cold turkey unless I had absolutely no choice
 
Stopping cold turkey is never going to be the recommended approach. PCT is advised for good reason. IMO research a good PCT process and put that into play instead of stopping cold turkey.
 
So you never used PCT for 11 years. And now your thinking of using PCT. Every place you read recommends PCT but for 11 years you decided not to do it. Tren A 700mg for 16 weeks with no AI or Caber.

I’d like to see some before and after bloodwork. And I’d like to know your stats, height, weight, bench, squat, and deadlift
 
Do you have kids? Are you still able? You are young to have been cruising for 11 years. Your testosterone is probably already shot. Definitely no need for pct now. You’re in for the long run now. No need to answer the kid question if it’s personal. Best of luck to you brother!!!!
 
Cool story bud, I gave up doing pct's a decade ago as well. My hpta has no restart option. Lol Have also come off "cold turkey" a few times. But I definitely feel a difference within 3mos when I go from shootin 2g of test per week to nothing at all. It's not an immediate difference, but slowly gradually the sex drive starts to crash.

But I don't see the point of your post.. if it ain't broke, why try to fix it.. why are you trying to change things up after all these years if you haven't had any issues with the way you've been doing it?
 
probably took pct first couple cycles , after that never did again , would run test , deca , dbol mostly , for me usally around 3 week mark sex drive shot down , took viagra to help with that , 8 week cycles , 30 days , have not had any issues , listen to your body brother , itwont lie to you, if u need it take if not dont , good luck
 
thehive91 said:
I appreciate your reply. If that was the case I would have disclosed that. I’m asking for advice so I want be as transparent as possible. I completely understand what you’re saying trt for the rest of your life is very common and something I’ll probably end up doing. But I have gone months without taking any compounds, and have stopped cold turkey everytime. In my younger years I’ve had some run in with the law and done 2 county jail bids. One 6 month and one 9 months. You can get along of things in county but gear isn’t one of them 😂
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sex drive stayed the same while also doing two bids in county? 😬 🤣
 
thehive91 said:
What’s going on guys. I wanted some input and opinions on this subject. I’ve been cycling for about 11 years now and I just turned 31. I have only used test and tren, some var here and there. I’ve done 16 week blasts with test and tren and long term cruises with test. I have never experienced any major sides besides some high blood pressure a few acne breakouts and minor hair loss which all been taken care with medication. Blood work has always been “decent” but Never got gyno or lactation due to tren.

My point of this post is for the 11 years on gear I have never done a pct cycle. I have all the caber, arimidex, nolva, and clomid on hand but I have never used them and I keep on buying new supplies cause they obv expire. I know in every forum on the internet it’s completely crazy to just stop gear cold turkey but that is what I have always done throughout the 11 years of being on gear and never experienced and major side effects. Has anyone else had this experience? Does anyone else stop cold turkey? I getting ready to end another 4 month blast of test e 500mg and tren a 700 mg/week and I’m thinking of just stopping cold turkey but everything changes when your 30 so should I run a pct or stop cold turkey like I’ve been doing for past 11 years?
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Ive never "pct-ed" either. Started AAS at 17, random cycles.
Im approaching 50, last 10+ years never came off, just blast & cruise. Ive created chidren during that time.
I only use aromsin sparingly.
 
Dogs_of_War said:
Do you have kids? Are you still able? You are young to have been cruising for 11 years. Your testosterone is probably already shot. Definitely no need for pct now. You’re in for the long run now. No need to answer the kid question if it’s personal. Best of luck to you brother!!!!
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No kids, not planning to have any either. I haven’t been cruising for 11 years straight, I’ve been off and on, always stopped cold turkey and gone months with no compounds.
 
Adrenolin said:
Cool story bud, I gave up doing pct's a decade ago as well. My hpta has no restart option. Lol Have also come off "cold turkey" a few times. But I definitely feel a difference within 3mos when I go from shootin 2g of test per week to nothing at all. It's not an immediate difference, but slowly gradually the sex drive starts to crash.

But I don't see the point of your post.. if it ain't broke, why try to fix it.. why are you trying to change things up after all these years if you haven't had any issues with the way you've been doing it?
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That’s what I’m thinking, why not just go cold turkey again like I have in the past. But I feel like my body has changed turning 30, now 31yrs old. It’s not the same as it was back in my mid late 20s. Your body just simply changes, you don’t build the same amount of muscle, don’t cut up the same, joints hurt a little bit more, longer recovery time.

The point of the post is to see if anybody has had the same experience as me, stopping blasts cold turkey with no problems, and to see if they still stop cold turkey now or do you eventually have to pct when you start to get a little bit older.
 

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