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Tren base review!!!!!!!

thats my point.. if it makes you feel better, why not?

I have no clue what I touch daily, could be anything on any surface, door handle you name it.. Hell I could have a mico dot of my own SHIT on my finger..I'll whip the shit out of my vial tops, and sites with alcohol..

Well now I didn't say don't wash your hands. Ya there could be particles or bacteria on your skin. But highly unlikely that it's something your body isn't knowing about. The human body is a complex thing. And deals with skin born foreign bodies.

I wash my hands with anti bacterial soap then draw and shoot.


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I seriously doubt it was the combination of oil and water. I've injected test suspension in water and test prop in the same syringe many times, no problems. But if I were you I'd be afraid to try it again too!
 
Back on the actual topic. Lol. I like test base or tren base in oil only better no pain. The water based stuff is deatg


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Well now I didn't say don't wash your hands. Ya there could be particles or bacteria on your skin. But highly unlikely that it's something your body isn't knowing about. The human body is a complex thing. And deals with skin born foreign bodies.

I wash my hands with anti bacterial soap then draw and shoot.


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Most common cause of IM infections are do to injections, or brake in the skin barrier..

The body is complex, yes, that's why it has multiple layers and layers of protection.. Think of your gastro track, there's some serious bacteria in that region that could ruin your day, if there was a brake in the tissue, its a game changer.. The same is for the skin, its no different, you body has systems of checks,barriers for great reason... The bac that you may be exposed to on your skin daily, is a far cry from what your lymphatic system sees and recognizes internally, the truth of thematter is, there's some scary ass shit on your skin that you never even heard of..Why do you think people get abscesses even with sterile clean products, your body quarantines any microbe,dirt, bacteria that entered that region..So many varitbles, just be safe man.. why do you think its HIGHLY recommended to keep cuts clean?:stupid:

Don't take my message here as argumentative because it's not, in fact it would be silly to even do so on a topic like this... its 101 man.. keep it simple!
 
I'm just wondering why. Not even nurses use them anymore. It's a dead practice.

What are you talking about!?!? Cleaning the skin is always the first step before doing a venipuncture, or especially an IM injection. In most places, unless it is an absolute life critical emergency, iodine swabbing is used before insertion of an IV. The second choice is alcohol, which is standard procedure for very sort term venipuncture, like blood draws, or when doing IM injections. You rarely have to worry about infection once something reaches your blood stream, as it contains quite a concentration of active immunoresponsive cells. It's the path from the surface of your skin to the vein, or in our cases, the path from the skin all the way to and including the muscle that is much more prone to infection.

The couple of studies that I was able to find discussing that skin prep with IPA or iodine was unnecessary only addressed the issue of preventing the own patients bacterial flora from becoming introduced subcutaneously or intramuscularly. The skin was always clean with at least soap and water. Given that fact that most of us have a relatively low native concentration of staph. Aureus, this is a plausable method of keeping the skin clean enough. However, the more dangerous infections are not from native dermal bacterial flora, they are from out contamination from the outside environment. The prevention of infection from other environmental bacteria and endospores was not addressed. This sidestepping of the real issue here makes these studies dubious at best, and downright dangerously wrong at worst.

tldr,
Swabbing absolutely does not make anything worse, and can only improve your chances of not getting an infection, It only takes a couple seconds, and costs next to nothing. Not swabbing my work out fine for you 999,999 times, but is it worth that one time something does go wrong to not swab.
 
Ok so after a million injects if I have an issue I'll let u know. Even tho I could inject that much in two lifetimes. Get real


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Ok so after a million injects if I have an issue I'll let u know. Even tho I could inject that much in two lifetimes. Get real


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Its your life bro.. If you wanna take that risk then fine... But I would hope everyone would rather take precautions....
 
Its your life bro.. If you wanna take that risk then fine... But I would hope everyone would rather take precautions....

I suppose. But I have a right to my opinion half my family is in the medical field every single one says it's something no one does anymore. So take it as u will


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We have one guy who did the bacteria test on vials. Levels were always present and after swabbing knocked down to near nothing according to test results. With that said my local hospital has swabs the contain an antibacterial chemical, I forget the exact chemical. They use them before all injections there. On the same note most diabetics never swab before injecting themselves or even when they prick their fingers for testing (not IM injection but still). My wife is bad about it.... Anyway, she's never had any issues but the one time an issue does arrive over that type of situation its generally very ugly. Swabs are cheap if not free and as said it don't hurt.

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Its your life bro.. If you wanna take that risk then fine... But I would hope everyone would rather take precautions....

Dema, listen, you keep doing you man...if it works for you, keep on man.. you know the drill!
 
Swab for extra protection you may have pinned 100 or 1000 times with no issue but swabs are so damn cheap why not use them. Every shot I've ever gotten at the Dr's, they swabbed me. I've never seen the Dr administer a shot without swabbing before the shot.. I feel it's dumb not to. 100 swaps are like 3 bucks at Walmart y wouldn't you take the extra precautions to not have a issue..

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I agree i swab 2 times prior to pining and than 2 times after pining its become a habit now

Swab for extra protection you may have pinned 100 or 1000 times with no issue but swabs are so damn cheap why not use them. Every shot I've ever gotten at the Dr's, they swabbed me. I've never seen the Dr administer a shot without swabbing before the shot.. I feel it's dumb not to. 100 swaps are like 3 bucks at Walmart y wouldn't you take the extra precautions to not have a issue..

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Questions for some base experts..

How much more ai should be needed running tren base?

How long would test base show on a blood test..... Would it be out of your blood number 72 hours after pin?
 
Questions for some base experts..

How much more ai should be needed running tren base?

How long would test base show on a blood test..... Would it be out of your blood number 72 hours after pin?

No it won't be gone by then still detectable. And also with more tren base you don't use more ai u use more caber or prami.


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I'm not asking if it's detectable...

Tren base or test base or any no ester product would burn out after about 18-24 hours. So by 72 should be very much on the decline


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Tren base or test base or any no ester product would burn out after about 18-24 hours. So by 72 should be very much on the decline


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Your knowledge is still shit... Just stop commenting... Thank you
 
Your knowledge is still shit... Just stop commenting... Thank you

How exactly do you figure that. I'm spot on with my answer. Sadly for you I don't succumb to bullying by meat heads with no knowledge. So dial it back soldier. You aren't impressing anyone.


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Your knowledge is still shit... Just stop commenting... Thank you

It's funny you are trying to say I know nothing, yet you ask do you take more ai with tren. You are the idiot not me.

Tren does not aromatize to estrogen so the need for an ai or AROMATISE INHIBITOR you jack hat. Would do nothing. Which is why you would use an ancilliary such are caber or prami. So plz give me your PayPal so I can send you some money so you can go buy a clue.


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Great, this asshat had to show up in another otherwise high quality thread...

FYI, enzymes have the ASE ending, not ise, now say it with me AromatASE.

a·ro·ma·tase
/əˈrōməˌtās/
 
Great, this asshat had to show up in another otherwise high quality thread...

FYI, enzymes have the ASE ending, not ise, now say it with me AromatASE.

a·ro·ma·tase
/əˈrōməˌtās/

Says the idiot in the room.


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Great, this asshat had to show up in another otherwise high quality thread...

FYI, enzymes have the ASE ending, not ise, now say it with me AromatASE.

a·ro·ma·tase
/əˈrōməˌtās/

I've forgotten more then you could ever even hope to learn. So plz spare me the dramatics. Go take your aromasin you are getting a little bitchy


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