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Started off great-wait--no the fuck it didn't-- these assholes told me everything I ordered was on the way the day I ordered with tracking included- then the next day they tell me that my test isn't in the package cause they ran out and because my order wasnt big enough they gave it to people who's order was bigger than mine- so once again they tell me everything is on the way with the same tracking number they gave me the day before that supposedly had the test. I tell them any test u get -even if its not enanthate u can replace it with when it comes-on discord they say they have test c in a week later.. I wait until later that night to email them asking if they sent my test out. They tell me no-they tell me they will refund my moneyfor the test which they do..now last night I message them asking about my tracking bc it's been cleared in the US since the 12th but hasn't updated or moved. They answer me back and tell me not to worry- its a "special way they deliver". What a fuckin joke. There is no special way to deliver mail. Nothing but a hassle since day 1 and if u think im lying-ill show u all of the emails.. its been 20 days since the day I ordered amd this isn't my first rodeo-i know it takes time but ive never been jerked around like this from anyone on this forum..o and my informed delivery doesn't say anything about an inbound package-... good luck with these guys
 
I am sketchy about sources who are on SM and discord. I trust verified sources on a forum like this far more when you can see an established track record for years with customer reviews it’s a no brainer to me. SM and discord can have anybody typing in reviews and shit.

After some review of IL it looks like they have a good track record and service that extends to years so they would be someone I would look to. I don’t like to place international orders however but if I did these guys look pretty legit to me.
 
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FWIW, I ordered from IL on the holiday BOGO sale. From what I understood about the . It even had the same delay once it landed. I reached out and got a similar answer. Having read through countless posts on this forum about IL, I trusted the process because they gave me no reason not to.

If you really ordered from IL, I would hang tight. Hope that helps in some way.

Had to edit this due to rules on shipping and dom talk too.
 
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Quacked bull said:
Started off great-wait--no the fuck it didn't-- these assholes told me everything I ordered was on the way the day I ordered with tracking included- then the next day they tell me that my test isn't in the package cause they ran out and because my order wasnt big enough they gave it to people who's order was bigger than mine- so once again they tell me everything is on the way with the same tracking number they gave me the day before that supposedly had the test. I tell them any test u get -even if its not enanthate u can replace it with when it comes-on discord they say they have test c in a week later.. I wait until later that night to email them asking if they sent my test out. They tell me no-they tell me they will refund my moneyfor the test which they do..now last night I message them asking about my tracking bc it's been cleared in the US since the 12th but hasn't updated or moved. They answer me back and tell me not to worry- its a "special way they deliver". What a fuckin joke. There is no special way to deliver mail. Nothing but a hassle since day 1 and if u think im lying-ill show u all of the emails.. its been 20 days since the day I ordered amd this isn't my first rodeo-i know it takes time but ive never been jerked around like this from anyone on this forum..o and my informed delivery doesn't say anything about an inbound package-... good luck with these guys
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You weren’t jerked around. They do have a special shipping method using a reshipper. That’s all that can be said because of the new rules being enforced by the admin. No shipping talk, no price or transaction info, no dom talk etc.

Everyone who ever orders from Lion either gets the stuff they order or they get a refund period.

Send me your info in pm and I’ll check to see what’s going on
 
They do have special shipping arrangements which I as a MOD can vouch for, and that cannot be discussed.
Perhaps they give customers too much info imo.

No worries @Quacked bull these guys are awesome. I wouldn't blink an eye. Sure time to time a glitch or a small mistake will happen but they will fix it.

This time of year is chaos. You have double the normal orders and you have shipping companies delayed and you have shipping companies making errors , losing packs and delayed packs at a higher rate.

This is an easily resolution. Keep in touch w the brand off the forum and they will handle it.
 
Quacked bull said:
Started off great-wait--no the fuck it didn't-- these assholes told me everything I ordered was on the way the day I ordered with tracking included- then the next day they tell me that my test isn't in the package cause they ran out and because my order wasnt big enough they gave it to people who's order was bigger than mine- so once again they tell me everything is on the way with the same tracking number they gave me the day before that supposedly had the test. I tell them any test u get -even if its not enanthate u can replace it with when it comes-on discord they say they have test c in a week later.. I wait until later that night to email them asking if they sent my test out. They tell me no-they tell me they will refund my moneyfor the test which they do..now last night I message them asking about my tracking bc it's been cleared in the US since the 12th but hasn't updated or moved. They answer me back and tell me not to worry- its a "special way they deliver". What a fuckin joke. There is no special way to deliver mail. Nothing but a hassle since day 1 and if u think im lying-ill show u all of the emails.. its been 20 days since the day I ordered amd this isn't my first rodeo-i know it takes time but ive never been jerked around like this from anyone on this forum..o and my informed delivery doesn't say anything about an inbound package-... good luck with these guys
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I don’t want to put details but my order was before yours and I still haven’t gotten it. I’m not worried, to be clear about it. I was told if more than 1 month they will re-ship. I’ve ordered from these guys multiple times and will continue. I think you guys just have to be patient and realize what it is that you’re actually buying.

If it takes longer it’s not the end of the world. I’m a big proponent of buying shit in excess and being prepared. This takes the urgency and stress out of my shopping. I order shit and forget about it until it arrives. If at some point I haven’t gotten it, then I get with the company and they resolve. Guys on here start to fall apart if in 2 weeks time they don’t have something. Just take it easy, I’m not discounting that you’re spending money but this is already a risk and being elevated doesn’t help you in the least. Stay calm and deal with issues as they arise. IL has been on these forums before you and I likely. So I doubt they’re looking to ruin that for one customer.


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Startingover said:
This doesn't even sound like shit Lion would say??
Sure u have thier right info/email,etc and not scam?
Reach out to REEH
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I've talked to them numerous times.. its not the time-i get it..its the responses and the fact that they said my order was together then redacted amd said the test wasnt in the order because of customers with bigger orders.. they gave me a refund but thats not the point.. ..if they have a reshipper--than fine it will come buts its the right email and source.. .. they were good with responses-they gave me a refund--im not saying their burning me-im saying that they dicked me around a bit and not one other source from this forum had done that-that ive ordered from in the last 2 years under this
Oran Juice Jones said:
I don’t want to put details but my order was before yours and I still haven’t gotten it. I’m not worried, to be clear about it. I was told if more than 1 month they will re-ship. I’ve ordered from these guys multiple times and will continue. I think you guys just have to be patient and realize what it is that you’re actually buying.

If it takes longer it’s not the end of the world. I’m a big proponent of buying shit in excess and being prepared. This takes the urgency and stress out of my shopping. I order shit and forget about it until it arrives. If at some point I haven’t gotten it, then I get with the company and they resolve. Guys on here start to fall apart if in 2 weeks time they don’t have something. Just take it easy, I’m not discounting that you’re spending money but this is already a risk and being elevated doesn’t help you in the least. Stay calm and deal with issues as they arise. IL has been on these forums before you and I likely. So I doubt they’re looking to ruin that for one customer.


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Like ive told the rep--im not looking for anything for free.. im not one to bash sponsors or anyone else..just giving my honest response brother..
 
GYMnTONIC said:
They do have special shipping arrangements which I as a MOD can vouch for, and that cannot be discussed.
Perhaps they give customers too much info imo.

No worries @Quacked bull these guys are awesome. I wouldn't blink an eye. Sure time to time a glitch or a small mistake will happen but they will fix it.

This time of year is chaos. You have double the normal orders and you have shipping companies delayed and you have shipping companies making errors , losing packs and delayed packs at a higher rate.

This is an easily resolution. Keep in touch w the brand off the forum and they will handle it.
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Im not doubting ill get it--jjat the responses weren't normal sounding.. like I said..they refunded what they couldn't send..just gave my honest opinion and you know from experience i dont give bad reviews man.. its not the time its taking..I get that-its the way it was presented..
 
man that is absolutely infuriating. the second they told u they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger i would have lost my mind... like why even take the money if u dont have the stock?? and that "special delivery" line is the biggest load of horse shit ive ever heard lol. usually that just means it’s sitting in a warehouse somewhere or they never actually dropped it off. if informed delivery isnt showing a damn thing after 20 days then they definitely scammed u on the shipping time. thanks for the heads up bro because getting jerked around like that when ur waiting to start a blast is the worst feeling ever. hope u get your cash back or the pack magically shows up but id definitely blackball these clowns.
 
this sounds like a total nightmare dude. the moment they said they gave your gear to someone else because they spent more money is when i would have lost my mind... that is some seriously shady business. and the "special way they deliver" line is just code for we havent actually sent it yet lol. if it was really cleared in the us it would show up on informed delivery by now for sure. sucks because when u have your cycle all planned out and your health stuff ready to go getting jerked around like this just ruins the whole vibe. thanks for calling these guys out because no one should have to deal with that much stress just to get their test. hope your pack eventually shows up but id never give them another dime!
 
man that is absolutely infuriating. the second they told u they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger i would have lost my mind... like why even take the money if u dont have the stock?? and that "special delivery" line is the biggest load of horse shit ive ever heard lol. usually that just means it’s sitting in a warehouse somewhere or they never actually dropped it off. if informed delivery isnt showing a damn thing after 20 days then they definitely scammed u on the shipping time. thanks for the heads up bro because getting jerked around like that when ur waiting to start a blast is the worst feeling ever. hope u get your cash back or the pack magically shows up but id definitely blackball these clowns.
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this sounds like a total nightmare dude. the moment they said they gave your gear to someone else because they spent more money is when i would have lost my mind... that is some seriously shady business. and the "special way they deliver" line is just code for we havent actually sent it yet lol. if it was really cleared in the us it would show up on informed delivery by now for sure. sucks because when u have your cycle all planned out and your health stuff ready to go getting jerked around like this just ruins the whole vibe. thanks for calling these guys out because no one should have to deal with that much stress just to get their test. hope your pack eventually shows up but id never give them another dime!
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What in the world is going on here? Either y'all are twins or my mans has two accounts. Good lord that's goofy as all get out.

And this...

and the "special way they deliver" line is just code for we havent actually sent it
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...actually is not the case at all. The guy who mods this forum, and others like myself, have already testified to this. Had you ordered from IL in the past you'd know.
 
I'm curious to see what this dude says. I think we gotta goofball sock puppet here, likely building up a profile to shit on a vendor. Two accounts created around the same time, building rep and then all the sudden they converge here? Nahhh

I'm just twiddling my thumbs on this conference call, so let's have some fun with this...

1. First reaction
  • jakobpeter: "man that is absolutely infuriating"
  • reedcals23: "this sounds like a total nightmare dude"
2. Mad about gear going to someone else
  • jakobpeter: "the second they told u they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger i would have lost my mind..."
  • reedcals23: "the moment they said they gave your gear to someone else because they spent more money is when i would have lost my mind..."
3. Calling it shady
  • jakobpeter: "like why even take the money if u dont have the stock??"
  • reedcals23: "that is some seriously shady business"
4. Making fun of the "special delivery" bs
  • jakobpeter: "that 'special delivery' line is the biggest load of horse shit ive ever heard lol"
  • reedcals23: "the 'special way they deliver' line is just code for we havent actually sent it yet lol"
5. Saying it should show up in the mail system by now
  • jakobpeter: "if informed delivery isnt showing a damn thing after 20 days then they definitely scammed u on the shipping time"
  • reedcals23: "if it was really cleared in the us it would show up on informed delivery by now for sure"
6. Feeling bad about the ruined cycle
  • jakobpeter: "getting jerked around like that when ur waiting to start a blast is the worst feeling ever"
  • reedcals23: "when u have your cycle all planned out and your health stuff ready to go getting jerked around like this just ruins the whole vibe"
7. Thanking OP for the heads up
  • jakobpeter: "thanks for the heads up bro"
  • reedcals23: "thanks for calling these guys out because no one should have to deal with that much stress just to get their test"
8. Hopes it shows up but screw these guys
  • jakobpeter: "hope u get your cash back or the pack magically shows up but id definitely blackball these clowns"
  • reedcals23: "hope your pack eventually shows up but id never give them another dime!"
 
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jayhova said:
I'm curious to see what this dude says. I think we gotta goofball sock puppet here, likely building up a profile to shit on a vendor. Two accounts created around the same time, building rep and then all the sudden they converge here? Nahhh

I'm just twiddling my thumbs on this conference call, so let's have some fun with this...

1. First reaction
  • jakobpeter: "man that is absolutely infuriating"
  • reedcals23: "this sounds like a total nightmare dude"
2. Mad about gear going to someone else
  • jakobpeter: "the second they told u they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger i would have lost my mind..."
  • reedcals23: "the moment they said they gave your gear to someone else because they spent more money is when i would have lost my mind..."
3. Calling it shady
  • jakobpeter: "like why even take the money if u dont have the stock??"
  • reedcals23: "that is some seriously shady business"
4. Making fun of the "special delivery" bs
  • jakobpeter: "that 'special delivery' line is the biggest load of horse shit ive ever heard lol"
  • reedcals23: "the 'special way they deliver' line is just code for we havent actually sent it yet lol"
5. Saying it should show up in the mail system by now
  • jakobpeter: "if informed delivery isnt showing a damn thing after 20 days then they definitely scammed u on the shipping time"
  • reedcals23: "if it was really cleared in the us it would show up on informed delivery by now for sure"
6. Feeling bad about the ruined cycle
  • jakobpeter: "getting jerked around like that when ur waiting to start a blast is the worst feeling ever"
  • reedcals23: "when u have your cycle all planned out and your health stuff ready to go getting jerked around like this just ruins the whole vibe"
7. Thanking OP for the heads up
  • jakobpeter: "thanks for the heads up bro"
  • reedcals23: "thanks for calling these guys out because no one should have to deal with that much stress just to get their test"
8. Hopes it shows up but screw these guys
  • jakobpeter: "hope u get your cash back or the pack magically shows up but id definitely blackball these clowns"
  • reedcals23: "hope your pack eventually shows up but id never give them another dime!"
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Very good observation
@REHH
 
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Quacked bull said:
Started off great-wait--no the fuck it didn't-- these assholes told me everything I ordered was on the way the day I ordered with tracking included- then the next day they tell me that my test isn't in the package cause they ran out and because my order wasnt big enough they gave it to people who's order was bigger than mine- so once again they tell me everything is on the way with the same tracking number they gave me the day before that supposedly had the test. I tell them any test u get -even if its not enanthate u can replace it with when it comes-on discord they say they have test c in a week later.. I wait until later that night to email them asking if they sent my test out. They tell me no-they tell me they will refund my moneyfor the test which they do..now last night I message them asking about my tracking bc it's been cleared in the US since the 12th but hasn't updated or moved. They answer me back and tell me not to worry- its a "special way they deliver". What a fuckin joke. There is no special way to deliver mail. Nothing but a hassle since day 1 and if u think im lying-ill show u all of the emails.. its been 20 days since the day I ordered amd this isn't my first rodeo-i know it takes time but ive never been jerked around like this from anyone on this forum..o and my informed delivery doesn't say anything about an inbound package-... good luck with these guys
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sorry , for oil is out of stosk, sorry, pls contact us, if there is something wrong with the pack, we can refund the money toyou , sorry for it ,
we don't cheat anybody , oil quantity is really small, Once oil is ready, we'll definitely prioritize sending out the paid orders that are already in the queue, and then send them out in order.
 
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If OP said they refunded him, then I don't see a problem. I've ordered from them several times and there were a couple times they were out of stock on something and the refunded that portion of it. That's business. It's a huge operation and taking who knows how many orders at the same time, it's possible for in-stock quantities to get over lapped and not updated in time.
I've seen sources on other boards that will tell you they're out of stock after a person has paid, and then tell them they'll give them a credit on their NEXT order. Forcing you to have to pay them again or lose the money. Iron Lion, and every source I've heard about on here will refund you the money so you're not forced to buy from them again unless you want to. That's good business. I have no problem buying from them again knowing they'll refund me if they run out faster than they realized.
And as far as them giving test E to a bigger order, yeah I get that sucks on a personal level, but I can't blame them. I usually make small orders of 5-600 or less in case it gets lost or seized, and then I could argue I'm not trying to distribute (which I'm not). If some high roller made an order of several thousand and especially if he was a repeat customer, I'd understand them giving him the priority. Would still suck but I'd understand. Plus IL will probably give you first dibs on the next batch coming in since they did that.
Not backing the OP, I understand the frustration, but I understand IL side also, and they've always had good customer service and will take care of you in the end. Refunding the money is an obvious good sign.
 
jayhova said:
I'm curious to see what this dude says. I think we gotta goofball sock puppet here, likely building up a profile to shit on a vendor. Two accounts created around the same time, building rep and then all the sudden they converge here? Nahhh

I'm just twiddling my thumbs on this conference call, so let's have some fun with this...

1. First reaction
  • jakobpeter: "man that is absolutely infuriating"
  • reedcals23: "this sounds like a total nightmare dude"
2. Mad about gear going to someone else
  • jakobpeter: "the second they told u they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger i would have lost my mind..."
  • reedcals23: "the moment they said they gave your gear to someone else because they spent more money is when i would have lost my mind..."
3. Calling it shady
  • jakobpeter: "like why even take the money if u dont have the stock??"
  • reedcals23: "that is some seriously shady business"
4. Making fun of the "special delivery" bs
  • jakobpeter: "that 'special delivery' line is the biggest load of horse shit ive ever heard lol"
  • reedcals23: "the 'special way they deliver' line is just code for we havent actually sent it yet lol"
5. Saying it should show up in the mail system by now
  • jakobpeter: "if informed delivery isnt showing a damn thing after 20 days then they definitely scammed u on the shipping time"
  • reedcals23: "if it was really cleared in the us it would show up on informed delivery by now for sure"
6. Feeling bad about the ruined cycle
  • jakobpeter: "getting jerked around like that when ur waiting to start a blast is the worst feeling ever"
  • reedcals23: "when u have your cycle all planned out and your health stuff ready to go getting jerked around like this just ruins the whole vibe"
7. Thanking OP for the heads up
  • jakobpeter: "thanks for the heads up bro"
  • reedcals23: "thanks for calling these guys out because no one should have to deal with that much stress just to get their test"
8. Hopes it shows up but screw these guys
  • jakobpeter: "hope u get your cash back or the pack magically shows up but id definitely blackball these clowns"
  • reedcals23: "hope your pack eventually shows up but id never give them another dime!"
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Great work Comumbo!!
Lol
 
Startingover said:
This doesn't even sound like shit Lion would say??
Sure u have thier right info/email,etc and not scam?
Reach out to REEH
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It is a scam, several of em at the same time making stupid statements that don’t make sense.
I have the admins and other mods linked now.
All of them are about to be banned
 
jayhova said:
I'm curious to see what this dude says. I think we gotta goofball sock puppet here, likely building up a profile to shit on a vendor. Two accounts created around the same time, building rep and then all the sudden they converge here? Nahhh

I'm just twiddling my thumbs on this conference call, so let's have some fun with this...

1. First reaction
  • jakobpeter: "man that is absolutely infuriating"
  • reedcals23: "this sounds like a total nightmare dude"
2. Mad about gear going to someone else
  • jakobpeter: "the second they told u they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger i would have lost my mind..."
  • reedcals23: "the moment they said they gave your gear to someone else because they spent more money is when i would have lost my mind..."
3. Calling it shady
  • jakobpeter: "like why even take the money if u dont have the stock??"
  • reedcals23: "that is some seriously shady business"
4. Making fun of the "special delivery" bs
  • jakobpeter: "that 'special delivery' line is the biggest load of horse shit ive ever heard lol"
  • reedcals23: "the 'special way they deliver' line is just code for we havent actually sent it yet lol"
5. Saying it should show up in the mail system by now
  • jakobpeter: "if informed delivery isnt showing a damn thing after 20 days then they definitely scammed u on the shipping time"
  • reedcals23: "if it was really cleared in the us it would show up on informed delivery by now for sure"
6. Feeling bad about the ruined cycle
  • jakobpeter: "getting jerked around like that when ur waiting to start a blast is the worst feeling ever"
  • reedcals23: "when u have your cycle all planned out and your health stuff ready to go getting jerked around like this just ruins the whole vibe"
7. Thanking OP for the heads up
  • jakobpeter: "thanks for the heads up bro"
  • reedcals23: "thanks for calling these guys out because no one should have to deal with that much stress just to get their test"
8. Hopes it shows up but screw these guys
  • jakobpeter: "hope u get your cash back or the pack magically shows up but id definitely blackball these clowns"
  • reedcals23: "hope your pack eventually shows up but id never give them another dime!"
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Thanks man. There’s more of em than this. They’re gonna be banned
 
ironlion said:
sorry , for oil is out of stosk, sorry, pls contact us, if there is something wrong with the pack, we can refund the money toyou , sorry for it ,
we don't cheat anybody , oil quantity is really small, Once oil is ready, we'll definitely prioritize sending out the paid orders that are already in the queue, and then send them out in order.
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Thanks.. I didnt doubt you would make it right. I said it in my review that you gave me a refund for what you couldn't send. Just gave my experience-which I do with every order I put in from vendors on this site.
 
jakobpeter said:
man that is absolutely infuriating. the second they told u they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger i would have lost my mind... like why even take the money if u dont have the stock?? and that "special delivery" line is the biggest load of horse shit ive ever heard lol. usually that just means it’s sitting in a warehouse somewhere or they never actually dropped it off. if informed delivery isnt showing a damn thing after 20 days then they definitely scammed u on the shipping time. thanks for the heads up bro because getting jerked around like that when ur waiting to start a blast is the worst feeling ever. hope u get your cash back or the pack magically shows up but id definitely blackball these clowns.
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They gave me a refund. Theres allot of good reviews for these guys which is why I was surprised when the things that were happening happened the way they did. Im not saying these guys arent legit with giving what they sai they will-it was just presented bad but I was also informed that most of the representatives dont speak English and what was said wasnt meant to be said the way it was said.. I agree with u-whej they said that bigger orders are priority over the time it wa put in,it pissed me off but they did make it right so far--just waiting on the delivery of the rest of the order which they said is coming--i understand the time.not my first rodeo...although the end of the day. Theyre making it right so it is what it is
 
Even good labs and brands can have errors guys.

It's worth noting we have a good member here and a good brand...were seeing more and more reports of things that truth be told should be handled off the forum.

Guys will send 3,4,10 msgs to a sponsor and then be mad they don't get a reply to each one...when people do that to me I delete them and sometimes ban a customer.

This is not acceptable guys...OP I'm not saying you did that but while we're on this topic let's clarify for those newbies reading this.

Always give the sponsor.a chance to resolve.. bringing it to the forum is bad for them and the member..it also burns a bridge for what can be an honest mistake.

I've sold suppz for 30+ years and I would never rip someone off , but I've seen dozens of lost packs, broken bottles, missing items in my years. It happens...it's not always 100% smooth friends.

IF you researched your source well, give them the benefit of a doubt.

I've spent tens or hundreds of thousands w IL over the years and I might have had 3 issues , missing item or broken item.

They always fix it...it's not fair to bring resolvable issues to the forums my friends. Plus a good sponsor might not want to deal with you anymore for jumping the gun.

Just some veteran info.for everyone to consider.

Glad this is resolved @Quacked bull 🙏🏼❤️
 
Neilblake said:
damn that sounds like a total clusterfuck honestly. the second they told you they gave your gear to someone else because their order was bigger is when i would have lost my mind like since when do you just poach a paid order for someone else?? and the "special way they deliver" line is total bullshit for we lost your package or never sent it. it sounds like they are just exit scamming or they are way too disorganized to be running a shop. seriously thanks for the heads up because getting jerked around for 20 days just to end up with a refund and no tracking movement is the ultimate headache. i hope your package actually shows up but it sounds like these guys are complete clowns.
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BOT Dude posting the same exact crap as the other Bot. @GYMnTONIC
 

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