First time cycle!

[Sully]

Hello,
New to this forum, but have found lots of useful information. I’ve been struggling with low testosterone for the past 2 years, finally saw a doctor and was placed on trt. I’m a 31 year old working a high stress job with minimal sleep. I’m 250 lb 5’10” with 20% body fat. I can drop weight pretty quick and so far I’m down 45 pounds since the start of trt (200mg a week pin ever 3 days). My strength is the best it’s ever been along with endurance. I’m still trying to shred down my abdomen but otherwise super satisfied with my arms and chest/ legs. Of course some more definition would be nice so that’s why I’m here.
Just purchased my first cycle, lab values are great with my test levels at 950.
So my intention was to do a 8-10 week cycle.
Week 1-2: 300mg test
2-4: 300mg test 35mg anavar 400mg primo
6-10 : 400mg test 50mg anavar 400mg primo
Depending how I feel I do have clen as well.
AI:Arimidex

Will follow up with result and progress, appreciate all advice and thoughts.

 

[Astro95]

The 1st 2 weeks of test only make no difference whatsoever. What’s the point there? 8 weeks of anavar is a tad long. Primo for 8 weeks a tad short. I’d do at least a 12-16 week cycle. With Test and Primo outta the gate throughout and anavar last 4 weeks. Dosages are up to you. Most everyone else will suggest Test only. I wouldn’t use clen unless you get into a pretty good deficit, proper diet, cardio trying to lean out.


Those my thoughts, Welcome.

 

[Maxwell]

Run primo longer my only advice <3

Probably no reason for clen either at this point.

my opinions of course

 

[Vision]

Hello,
New to this forum, but have found lots of useful information. I’ve been struggling with low testosterone for the past 2 years, finally saw a doctor and was placed on trt. I’m a 31 year old working a high stress job with minimal sleep. I’m 250 lb 5’10” with 20% body fat. I can drop weight pretty quick and so far I’m down 45 pounds since the start of trt (200mg a week pin ever 3 days). My strength is the best it’s ever been along with endurance. I’m still trying to shred down my abdomen but otherwise super satisfied with my arms and chest/ legs. Of course some more definition would be nice so that’s why I’m here.
Just purchased my first cycle, lab values are great with my test levels at 950.
So my intention was to do a 8-10 week cycle.
Week 1-2: 300mg test
2-4: 300mg test 35mg anavar 400mg primo
6-10 : 400mg test 50mg anavar 400mg primo
Depending how I feel I do have clen as well.
AI:Arimidex

Will follow up with result and progress, appreciate all advice and thoughts.

My suggestion, save the clen, because you're making great results with what you're using right now, just take this as it is and listening to all the learning curves, there's all sorts of adjustments that you have to learn and listen to it sensitivities. No need to be aggressive because you're already making phenomenal and tremendous progress, speaking of that kudos and congratulations to you man..

No need to throw the kitchen sink at it, it sounds like you're making perfect progress right now.

Just stay the course, stick to the basics and focus on the kitchen everything else would fall into place.

There's no need to overthink things or get over aggressive.
Clen can be pretty uncomfortable and it doesn't guarantee results but it often guarantees feeling uncomfortable.

Keep dealing what you're doing until you exhausted all resources whether it's the next cycle, or the next cycle or the next cycle..
Keep it simple. Test only is extremely underrated, and there's a lot of veterans that use test only.
People add too many things and they don't know what to subtract if they start feeling some kind of way. Learn, listen and make your adjustments if needed

Just keep the test and Primo in there nothing else

But test only would be my course of action for several cycles
.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

Most everyone else will suggest Test only.

 

[rawbuilt]

850mg for a first cycle is too much

all you need is test 300mg-500mg.. u can have aromasin on hand just in case

 

[Sully]

The 1st 2 weeks of test only make no difference whatsoever. What’s the point there? 8 weeks of anavar is a tad long. Primo for 8 weeks a tad short. I’d do at least a 12-16 week cycle. With Test and Primo outta the gate throughout and anavar last 4 weeks. Dosages are up to you. Most everyone else will suggest Test only. I wouldn’t use clen unless you get into a pretty good deficit, proper diet, cardio trying to lean out.


Those my thoughts, Welcome.

Awesome advice, ya after doing some more research, the anavar is definitely way too long but I’ll have to keep with the promo for a bit longer. The test has made me feel amazing but the plateau sucks, gotta keep with it. Appreciate you

 

[Sully]

My suggestion, save the clen, because you're making great results with what you're using right now, just take this as it is and listening to all the learning curves, there's all sorts of adjustments that you have to learn and listen to it sensitivities. No need to be aggressive because you're already making phenomenal and tremendous progress, speaking of that kudos and congratulations to you man..

No need to throw the kitchen sink at it, it sounds like you're making perfect progress right now.

Just stay the course, stick to the basics and focus on the kitchen everything else would fall into place.

There's no need to overthink things or get over aggressive.
Clen can be pretty uncomfortable and it doesn't guarantee results but it often guarantees feeling uncomfortable.

Keep dealing what you're doing until you exhausted all resources whether it's the next cycle, or the next cycle or the next cycle..
Keep it simple. Test only is extremely underrated, and there's a lot of veterans that use test only.
People add too many things and they don't know what to subtract if they start feeling some kind of way. Learn, listen and make your adjustments if needed

Just keep the test and Primo in there nothing else

But test only would be my course of action for several cycles
.

Thank you for the valuable info! I’m definitely going to hold off on the clen, and I’ll be doing the anavar towards the end of cycle if I feel I even need it. Appreciate the motivation! It’s good to feel normal again after having my test crashed for the last 2 years. Motivation has never been higher, lifts are insane.

 

[JS17]

I think you should diet hard for about 12-20 more weekson trt only and then add in the primo or just up the test.
you did great by dropping 45lbs.
Most people are fatter and have less muscle than they think they have.
Even if you’re correct and you’re 20% bf that’s still too fat to blast.
A man should never really get above about 10-12%.

You won’t need the drugs yet to hold on to muscle. Save the extra drugs until performance starts to suffer.

 

[Wiseguy]

IMO you be surprised how well test will work by it self. I think its two early to add primo or var but your choice. I would save both of those for when you get below 12% bodyfat.

Run the test 300 to 400 mg range for 10-12 weeks and continue your clean diet.

Just my opinion.

FYI I am 59 and I've been on 200mg of test for at least 6 or 7 months. 183 pounds at 5'9 and very lean.

Good luck.