First cycle thoughts.

[Digital_outlaw]

So a little back story. Im a 24 year old male. i have been training and dieting for 2.5 years. And I have been diagnosed with low T at 277ng/dl. I have been on TRT for 2 weeks at 100mg split 50mg Monday and Thursday (RX). I know it is too soon to consider a cycle or anything. So i am waiting 4-5 weeks to do labs to see how the testosterone at 100mg effects me.

But, my thoughts are.. if i am already going to be shut down from my TRT dose. Why not up the dose a bit and maximize some gains. So i am thinking if labs come back ok. And blood work looks good. I would like to increase my TRT dose to 250mg split 125mg Monday / Thursday. But also add some primo (400mg) for a more hardened muscle look. Going for an anime V taper look. My training is dialed in, as well as nutrition. And as i understand primo can help limit E2 so need for an AI is slim, and its a relatively safer compound.

Is this an effective first cycle? Is there anything i could be missing? Or any advice from those who are more experienced, who would like to share some imput?

 

[Digital_outlaw]

So a little back story. Im a 24 year old male. i have been training and dieting for 2.5 years. And I have been diagnosed with low T at 277ng/dl. I have been on TRT for 2 weeks at 100mg split 50mg Monday and Thursday (RX). I know it is too soon to consider a cycle or anything. So i am waiting 4-5 weeks to do labs to see how the testosterone at 100mg effects me.

But, my thoughts are.. if i am already going to be shut down from my TRT dose. Why not up the dose a bit and maximize some gains. So i am thinking if labs come back ok. And blood work looks good. I would like to increase my TRT dose to 250mg split 125mg Monday / Thursday. But also add some primo (400mg) for a more hardened muscle look. Going for an anime V taper look. My training is dialed in, as well as nutrition. And as i understand primo can help limit E2 so need for an AI is slim, and its a relatively safer compound.

Is this an effective first cycle? Is there anything i could be missing? Or any advice from those who are more experienced, who would like to share some imput?

I would be eating slightly over maintenance. 100-300 calories over and adjust based on results. For diet, non estrogenic foods, foods that support T, and of course have protein fats and carbs all balanced in their proper ratios.

 

[McBoobenheim]

250 test 400 primo might crash your e2. This is something you'll need to navigate with bloods, but I'd give you trt more time to establish your new normal before you start stacking gear. If it's only been two weeks then your trt isn't even fully titrated yet.

People underestimate just how fucking jacked you can get on trt alone

 

[Astro95]

Okay, so before I dig into the TRT approach. Could you please post your current training split, exercises for how many reps etc and diet? Or weekly macros? Any cardio? How much do you weight? How lean? Also what’s your current phase, maintenance, diet, growth?

 

[Meetketchup]

You just got on trt from very low-test levels. You will make good gains on that alone. There is no reason to up it yet when you don't have to. You use the lowest dosages for the most efficient gains. After you stall on the trt, THEN you look into increasing your trt or cycle. There is no rush. You don't put premium gas into a car that can't handle it yet.

 

[Astro95]

You just got on trt from very low-test levels. You will make good gains on that alone. There is no reason to up it yet when you don't have to. You use the lowest dosages for the most efficient gains. After you stall on the trt, THEN you look into increasing your trt or cycle. There is no rush. You don't put premium gas into a car that can't handle it yet.

I only put non estrogenic and t boosting fuel in my car.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

Okay, so before I dig into the TRT approach. Could you please post your current training split, exercises for how many reps etc and diet? Or weekly macros? Any cardio? How much do you weight? How lean? Also what’s your current phase, maintenance, diet, growth?

Yea no problem! Current workout included in pics. I do 3-0 RIR so week 1 3RIR, week 2 2RIR, week 3 1RIR week 4 0RIR. Week 5 i deload then start the process again. For cardio i do 10,000 steps daily.

For my meal plan :
Meal 1: Breakfast - Protein Shake & Eggs

• 2 scoops Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein

• 1 cup Fairlife 2% Milk

• 1 tbsp Peanut Butter

• 1 medium Banana

• 3 whole Eggs

• 2TBSP egg white

Meal 2: Lunch - Chicken & Rice

• 8 oz Chicken

• 2.5 cups cooked White Rice

Meal 3: Dinner - Simple Egg & Rice Bowl

• 1 cup (maintaince / delaod) 2.5 cups cooked Jasmine Rice (lean bulk)

• 3 whole Eggs

• 1 tbsp Butter

• 1 oz Shredded Cheese

• ½ Avocado

Daily Totals:

• Calories: 2,520 (maintenance) 3,000 kcal (lean bulk)

• Protein: 177g

• Carbs: 380g

• Fat: 91g
For maintenance i eat 1 cup of rice for dinner. On a lean bulk included in macros, i eat 2.5 cups of rice for dinner. I am currently in maintenance phase coming out of an agressive cut. I weigh 163lbs height is 5’11 i would estimate 12-15% bf. My plan is to be in maintenance for a few weeks then do a lean bulk to gain muscle while on TRT.

My concern: i just dont think 100mg of TRT is really going to do what i am wanting. But i want to get labs 5-6 weeks into 100mg protocol to see what my levels are and where im standing. I would like to increase to 200-250mg to maximize on my lean bulk, then return to a TRT dose. So 12-18 weeks of “blasting” mini blast. Then stability for the same amount of time.

Let me know if this is optimal, or if any improvements could be made! I appreciate the help!

I also think yall are right about not stacking compounds first. And just letting the T do its thing!

 

[Digital_outlaw]

Yea no problem! Current workout included in pics. I do 3-0 RIR so week 1 3RIR, week 2 2RIR, week 3 1RIR week 4 0RIR. Week 5 i deload then start the process again. For cardio i do 10,000 steps daily.

For my meal plan :
Meal 1: Breakfast - Protein Shake & Eggs

• 2 scoops Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein

• 1 cup Fairlife 2% Milk

• 1 tbsp Peanut Butter

• 1 medium Banana

• 3 whole Eggs

• 2TBSP egg white

Meal 2: Lunch - Chicken & Rice

• 8 oz Chicken

• 2.5 cups cooked White Rice

Meal 3: Dinner - Simple Egg & Rice Bowl

• 1 cup (maintaince / delaod) 2.5 cups cooked Jasmine Rice (lean bulk)

• 3 whole Eggs

• 1 tbsp Butter

• 1 oz Shredded Cheese

• ½ Avocado

Daily Totals:

• Calories: 2,520 (maintenance) 3,000 kcal (lean bulk)

• Protein: 177g

• Carbs: 380g

• Fat: 91g
For maintenance i eat 1 cup of rice for dinner. On a lean bulk included in macros, i eat 2.5 cups of rice for dinner. I am currently in maintenance phase coming out of an agressive cut. I weigh 163lbs height is 5’11 i would estimate 12-15% bf. My plan is to be in maintenance for a few weeks then do a lean bulk to gain muscle while on TRT.

My concern: i just dont think 100mg of TRT is really going to do what i am wanting. But i want to get labs 5-6 weeks into 100mg protocol to see what my levels are and where im standing. I would like to increase to 200-250mg to maximize on my lean bulk, then return to a TRT dose. So 12-18 weeks of “blasting” mini blast. Then stability for the same amount of time.

Let me know if this is optimal, or if any improvements could be made! I appreciate the help!

I also think yall are right about not stacking compounds first. And just letting the T do its thing!

This is my current physique

 

[Oldschool1]

You just got on trt from very low-test levels. You will make good gains on that alone. There is no reason to up it yet when you don't have to. You use the lowest dosages for the most efficient gains. After you stall on the trt, THEN you look into increasing your trt or cycle. There is no rush. You don't put premium gas into a car that can't handle it yet.

I second this.. your young don’t rush into it..

 

[Meetketchup]

At 5'11, 163lbs and looking at your pic....You have a lot of gains left on the table before even thinking about cycling. You need to be able to make gains before entering the steroid world.

How do you know the 100mg isn't going to do what you want? You have no frame of reference. Why not see what happens for a few months and get more bloods. If you need to up it, you do. You should be able to make gains off of that. If you can't more test isn't going to help.

Training: Sounds like an RP program. Not going to cut it.
Macros: Need work
I could go on.

Not trying to be a ball buster man. Just being honest.

 

[Oldschool1]

So a little back story. Im a 24 year old male. i have been training and dieting for 2.5 years. And I have been diagnosed with low T at 277ng/dl. I have been on TRT for 2 weeks at 100mg split 50mg Monday and Thursday (RX). I know it is too soon to consider a cycle or anything. So i am waiting 4-5 weeks to do labs to see how the testosterone at 100mg effects me.

But, my thoughts are.. if i am already going to be shut down from my TRT dose. Why not up the dose a bit and maximize some gains. So i am thinking if labs come back ok. And blood work looks good. I would like to increase my TRT dose to 250mg split 125mg Monday / Thursday. But also add some primo (400mg) for a more hardened muscle look. Going for an anime V taper look. My training is dialed in, as well as nutrition. And as i understand primo can help limit E2 so need for an AI is slim, and its a relatively safer compound.

Is this an effective first cycle? Is there anything i could be missing? Or any advice from those who are more experienced, who would like to share some imput?

Just out of curiosity.. how did they diagnose you? Was it multiple test spread out? What kinda symptoms did you have before or any contributing health factors?

 

[Digital_outlaw]

At 5'11, 163lbs and looking at your pic....You have a lot of gains left on the table before even thinking about cycling. You need to be able to make gains before entering the steroid world.

How do you know the 100mg isn't going to do what you want? You have no frame of reference. Why not see what happens for a few months and get more bloods. If you need to up it, you do. You should be able to make gains off of that. If you can't more test isn't going to help.

Training: Sounds like an RP program. Not going to cut it.
Macros: Need work
I could go on.

Not trying to be a ball buster man. Just being honest.

No I appreciate the honesty! Thats why im posting on the fourms for advice. Id like to do this the right way and not fuck myself up.. when you say training and macros could be better? Any advice there on how i could improve on those areas? I focus on fourm and make my own custom templates in the RP app. My buddy is a personal trainer but not experienced in steroids, so he helps me build programs. But how could i improve here?

 

[Digital_outlaw]

Just out of curiosity.. how did they diagnose you? Was it multiple test spread out? What kinda symptoms did you have before or any contributing health factors?

Low motivation, depression, fatigue, ED no sex drive and issues in the bedroom. Took 2 tests spread out over 6 months. First test 400ng/dl dr told me to dial in diet and training and retest 6 months later. Did exactly that, went full psycho on optimization. Next test showed lower 277ng/dl and thats when he put me on TRT.

 

[Astro95]

Yea no problem! Current workout included in pics. I do 3-0 RIR so week 1 3RIR, week 2 2RIR, week 3 1RIR week 4 0RIR. Week 5 i deload then start the process again. For cardio i do 10,000 steps daily.

For my meal plan :
Meal 1: Breakfast - Protein Shake & Eggs

• 2 scoops Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein

• 1 cup Fairlife 2% Milk

• 1 tbsp Peanut Butter

• 1 medium Banana

• 3 whole Eggs

• 2TBSP egg white

Meal 2: Lunch - Chicken & Rice

• 8 oz Chicken

• 2.5 cups cooked White Rice

Meal 3: Dinner - Simple Egg & Rice Bowl

• 1 cup (maintaince / delaod) 2.5 cups cooked Jasmine Rice (lean bulk)

• 3 whole Eggs

• 1 tbsp Butter

• 1 oz Shredded Cheese

• ½ Avocado

Daily Totals:

• Calories: 2,520 (maintenance) 3,000 kcal (lean bulk)

• Protein: 177g

• Carbs: 380g

• Fat: 91g
For maintenance i eat 1 cup of rice for dinner. On a lean bulk included in macros, i eat 2.5 cups of rice for dinner. I am currently in maintenance phase coming out of an agressive cut. I weigh 163lbs height is 5’11 i would estimate 12-15% bf. My plan is to be in maintenance for a few weeks then do a lean bulk to gain muscle while on TRT.

My concern: i just dont think 100mg of TRT is really going to do what i am wanting. But i want to get labs 5-6 weeks into 100mg protocol to see what my levels are and where im standing. I would like to increase to 200-250mg to maximize on my lean bulk, then return to a TRT dose. So 12-18 weeks of “blasting” mini blast. Then stability for the same amount of time.

Let me know if this is optimal, or if any improvements could be made! I appreciate the help!

I also think yall are right about not stacking compounds first. And just letting the T do its thing!

I appreciate the breakdown. I wouldn’t say your diet or training are “dialed” in, but they’re somewhere which is good. When training with RIR I personally don't see the benefit of doing anything beyond 1RIR. The idea is to get as close to failure to generate the most stimulus while minimizing fatigue. I’ve trained RIR and it’s very very hard to know how many actual reps you have left. I see your physique and you don’t look very developed, so even though you’ve been training 2.5 years I wouldn’t say you have the level or time of training and as in tune with your body to know and maximize from this style of training. I’m no MR Olympia myself, but even training 1RIR it’s easy to end up at 2-3 even more depending on weight selection and target reps. When you’re going for 3RIR which I don’t see a benefit of ever training farther than 2… your margin of accuracy of where you’ll stop the set becomes much larger and much larger towards the wrong way of where we want to be which is closer to failure. I’m sure you’re just not training hard enough.

Diet looks okay, fats a little high for my preference.

I’d say ride out the 100mg of TRT (I also think it’s low) but at least get bloodwork on it and see where it puts you at can’t be worse than 200ish test you have natural. In the meantime find a more efficient training program, you should add some muscle mass maybe recomp some if your macros are actually somewhat close to maintance… retest and if levels are not great, go to 150-200mg per week… somewhere that lands you around the 1,000ng/dl mark and train your ass off, dial in diet, dial in training, find what works, get rid of what doesn’t and maximize those noobie gains. Don’t push food up, because you’re still essentially skinny fat, you shouldn’t be lean bulking or doing any bulking at all. Simply train as close to maintance as you can, this should have a good recomp effect in you with the added test and effective closer to or to failure training.

Once you establish a solid base of muscle, then cut to a leaner body composition unless you managed to do this during this time. Once you’re actually lean, then “lean bulk” and maybe then add something else to the TRT or up the TRT.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

I appreciate the breakdown. I wouldn’t say your diet or training are “dialed” in, but they’re somewhere which is good. When training with RIR I personally don't see the benefit of doing anything beyond 1RIR. The idea is to get as close to failure to generate the most stimulus while minimizing fatigue. I’ve trained RIR and it’s very very hard to know how many actual reps you have left. I see your physique and you don’t look very developed, so even though you’ve been training 2.5 years I wouldn’t say you have the level or time of training and as in tune with your body to know and maximize from this style of training. I’m no MR Olympia myself, but even training 1RIR it’s easy to end up at 2-3 even more depending on weight selection and target reps. When you’re going for 3RIR which I don’t see a benefit of ever training farther than 2… your margin of accuracy of where you’ll stop the set becomes much larger and much larger towards the wrong way of where we want to be which is closer to failure. I’m sure you’re just not training hard enough.

Diet looks okay, fats a little high for my preference.

I’d say ride out the 100mg of TRT (I also think it’s low) but at least get bloodwork on it and see where it puts you at can’t be worse than 200ish test you have natural. In the meantime find a more efficient training program, you should add some muscle mass maybe recomp some if your macros are actually somewhat close to maintance… retest and if levels are not great, go to 150-200mg per week… somewhere that lands you around the 1,000ng/dl mark and train your ass off, dial in diet, dial in training, find what works, get rid of what doesn’t and maximize those noobie gains. Don’t push food up, because you’re still essentially skinny fat, you shouldn’t be lean bulking or doing any bulking at all. Simply train as close to maintance as you can, this should have a good recomp effect in you with the added test and effective closer to or to failure training.

Once you establish a solid base of muscle, then cut to a leaner body composition unless you managed to do this during this time. Once you’re actually lean, then “lean bulk” and maybe then add something else to the TRT or up the TRT.

Appreciate the advice! Yea that is exactly my biggest problem. Its so hard to find 1-3 rir and its difficult to calculate. I tried going close to failure on set 1&2 and failure on set 3. But that was extremely fatiguing. Also the first year of working out was very piss poor. No clue what i was doing, just lifted random shit and hoped for the best lol. It wasn’t until a year or so ago i really took things seriously and followed a program and diet plan! I agree woth that! And think thats solid advice! Thank you!

For training you recommend just getting close to 1RIR or failure on every set? But also maybe progressively overload the weight 5lbs per week or something like that instead of the whole RIR program? I definitely think this could be what has limited my gains not knowing exactly how hard to train and when..

As for the TRT, ill do that, just stick with 100. Retest and optimize slightly only if needed.

Also, are there any training programs in the fourms here? Im new to the fourms and all this. So any help i can get i greatly appreciate!

 

[Astro95]

Appreciate the advice! Yea that is exactly my biggest problem. Its so hard to find 1-3 rir and its difficult to calculate. I tried going close to failure on set 1&2 and failure on set 3. But that was extremely fatiguing. Also the first year of working out was very piss poor. No clue what i was doing, just lifted random shit and hoped for the best lol. It wasn’t until a year or so ago i really took things seriously and followed a program and diet plan! I agree woth that! And think thats solid advice! Thank you!

For training you recommend just getting close to 1RIR or failure on every set? But also maybe progressively overload the weight 5lbs per week or something like that instead of the whole RIR program? I definitely think this could be what has limited my gains not knowing exactly how hard to train and when..

As for the TRT, ill do that, just stick with 100. Retest and optimize slightly only if needed.

Also, are there any training programs in the fourms here? Im new to the fourms and all this. So any help i can get i greatly appreciate!

As for training close to failure on your 1st couple sets then failure on your last set yes, that’s a better approach. I think a lot of people when watching YouTube Videos or stuff like RP and Mike isreatel or Jared feather who hear them talk about fatigue and all this terminology get confused as to what that means.

There’s a difference between doing some hard sets that actually cause muscle growth to fatigue… do they inter lap somewhere yes, but the training is supposed to be hard. I go into sets not wanting to go into them, because how much the previous set kicked my ass.

If you want to stick with RIR yes, only 1RIR and that’s really just to make sure you end up as close to failure as possible. 2RIR is also effective, but the likelihood of you ending up even further away from failure following a 2RIR program compared to 1RIR increases, so that’s counter productive. If you want to stick to RIR, first train to complete failure on every movement and log your lifts. Do it for a week or 2 and get to know at what weights you truly mechanically fail and also what it feels when you’re about to fail this is very important. That way when you go back to training RIR, you can much more accurately hit those true 1RIR sets… you’ll still be off on some I guarantee it, but you’ll be training much more optimally.

You should always be progressive over loading. Not sure how that app works, I see Nick Walker hitting multiple sets with the same weight. That only works for me on my top weights when in order to not fall short of my target rep range, I hit the same weight for as close to the same reps on previous set. Otherwise it’s always to failure or right off failure first set, then tiny small jump, second set maybe land on the bottom end of my target reps and from there I make a decision wether I go up or stay. As you “progress” and get stronger, your first set goes up in weight, and your last top set that was at the very bottom of the rep range walks up, eventually gets to the top of the range and weight goes up as well and it’s just a ladder of gains that you track every session.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

As for training close to failure on your 1st couple sets then failure on your last set yes, that’s a better approach. I think a lot of people when watching YouTube Videos or stuff like RP and Mike isreatel or Jared feather who hear them talk about fatigue and all this terminology get confused as to what that means.

There’s a difference between doing some hard sets that actually cause muscle growth to fatigue… do they inter lap somewhere yes, but the training is supposed to be hard. I go into sets not wanting to go into them, because how much the previous set kicked my ass.

If you want to stick with RIR yes, only 1RIR and that’s really just to make sure you end up as close to failure as possible. 2RIR is also effective, but the likelihood of you ending up even further away from failure following a 2RIR program compared to 1RIR increases, so that’s counter productive. If you want to stick to RIR, first train to complete failure on every movement and log your lifts. Do it for a week or 2 and get to know at what weights you truly mechanically fail and also what it feels when you’re about to fail this is very important. That way when you go back to training RIR, you can much more accurately hit those true 1RIR sets… you’ll still be off on some I guarantee it, but you’ll be training much more optimally.

You should always be progressive over loading. Not sure how that app works, I see Nick Walker hitting multiple sets with the same weight. That only works for me on my top weights when in order to not fall short of my target rep range, I hit the same weight for as close to the same reps on previous set. Otherwise it’s always to failure or right off failure first set, then tiny small jump, second set maybe land on the bottom end of my target reps and from there I make a decision wether I go up or stay. As you “progress” and get stronger, your first set goes up in weight, and your last top set that was at the very bottom of the rep range walks up, eventually gets to the top of the range and weight goes up as well and it’s just a ladder of gains that you track every session.

That makes total sense! Yea i think for now i will drop the whole RIR thing, and just use the app for tracking weight and reps and not have it auto calculate all that shit. I think thats why i haven’t made the gains i believe i should have this last year.. so train close to failure on set 1 then failure on set 2 & 3. Im going to really push myself and ensure failure with weights are kept in the 8-12 rep range. The whole RIR thing has been too complicated from the start. And i assume since i am on TRT even a lower dose, my recovery should be more optimal so fatigue shouldn’t be as much of an issue. I really appreciate all the advice! Thanks man!

 

[Wardamn]

Appreciate the advice! Yea that is exactly my biggest problem. Its so hard to find 1-3 rir and its difficult to calculate. I tried going close to failure on set 1&2 and failure on set 3. But that was extremely fatiguing. Also the first year of working out was very piss poor. No clue what i was doing, just lifted random shit and hoped for the best lol. It wasn’t until a year or so ago i really took things seriously and followed a program and diet plan! I agree woth that! And think thats solid advice! Thank you!

For training you recommend just getting close to 1RIR or failure on every set? But also maybe progressively overload the weight 5lbs per week or something like that instead of the whole RIR program? I definitely think this could be what has limited my gains not knowing exactly how hard to train and when..

As for the TRT, ill do that, just stick with 100. Retest and optimize slightly only if needed.

Also, are there any training programs in the fourms here? Im new to the fourms and all this. So any help i can get i greatly appreciate!

You're just starting to train. Forget the RIR.

Just learn to train hard to failure and get brutally strong.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

You're just starting to train. Forget the RIR.

Just learn to train hard to failure and get brutally strong.

Every set to failure! Lets get it! Excited to see some real progress and the boost from trt! Gonna be a fun few weeks ahead!

 

[Wardamn]

Every set to failure! Lets get it! Excited to see some real progress and the boost from trt! Gonna be a fun few weeks ahead!

Not all sets. But you should have at least 1 failure set for each movement.

Use intensity techniques where needed, I know it's not the science thing to do. You are so new to training you need to find out what all out training failure is before you can know what your RIRs are.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

Not all sets. But you should have at least 1 failure set for each movement.

Use intensity techniques where needed, I know it's not the science thing to do. You are so new to training you need to find out what all out training failure is before you can know what your RIRs are.

Good point. I have pushed myself to failure on 0 RIR days. So will do set 1 & 2 close to failure. And last set of each exercise to failure. And implement +5lbs a week progressive overload.

 

[Meetketchup]

Don't overthink things.

A simple 3 days and 1 off Push/Pull/Legs or hitting each muscle 2x per week.
Rep Range 8-15
Roughly 15-20 sets per body part per week.
Progressive overload every week in reps or weight
Last set to failure

Dial in macros

 

[Digital_outlaw]

Good point. I have pushed myself to failure on 0 RIR days. So will do set 1 & 2 close to failure. And last set of each exercise to failure. And implement +5lbs a week progressive overload.

On failure i like to do half rep finishers (forget the technical term) but spam as many smaller movements as i can until i completely give out.

 

[heckler7]

did your doctor prescribe you TRT or did you go to a TRT clinic?
100MG is not enough for a weekly dose 150MG is a better weekly dose.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

did your doctor prescribe you TRT or did you go to a TRT clinic?
100MG is not enough for a weekly dose 150MG is a better weekly dose.

Primary care provider started me on it. Going to a TRT clinic now that i have the script so they can properly help me manage it.

 

[Wardamn]

Primary care provider started me on it. Going to a TRT clinic now that i have the script so they can properly help me manage it.

That explains the low dose of 100mg.

Primary care providers are pretty clueless. They act like testosterone is heroin.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

That explains the low dose of 100mg.

Primary care providers are pretty clueless. They act like testosterone is heroin.

Yea i asked for 200 - 150 and doc said we will start with 100, test in 5 weeks and go from there. Doc also said i was his first patient under the age of 40 that he prescribed. It took a lot of convincing, but my results did most of the talking… so tomorrow im going in to a trt clinic to just discuss everything. And see if they will help me manage.

Im also interested in HCG and my PCP declined and told me he doesn’t feel comfortable prescribing anything with the TRT. Even tho i had concerns about fertility and ball shrinking.

 

[Digital_outlaw]

Don't overthink things.

A simple 3 days and 1 off Push/Pull/Legs or hitting each muscle 2x per week.
Rep Range 8-15
Roughly 15-20 sets per body part per week.
Progressive overload every week in reps or weight
Last set to failure

Dial in macros

I have redone my macros and reduced fat significantly. New daily totals for maintenance

Calories: ~2,520

• Protein: ~176g

• Carbs: ~482g

• Fat: ~60g

Would you say this is more optimal? I removed 31g of fat for 102g of carbs, while maintaining 1.1g of protein per pound of weight. Will heavier carbs increase water retention while on TRT? I know it will be better for fueling workouts and recovery. But im concerned about water retention and bloating.