Difference in 250 e vs 400e

[GhostB]

Newb question about to start cycling first time. Is the 400mg/ml test e the same as the 250mg/ml just in a larger vial? Or is it a higher dose? Going to do 500mg weekly split in 2 but got the super vials . Do I still just measure the 250mg out the 400?

 

[Tr1019]

It’s the same compound but a more concentrated dose. For instance if you did .5 ml of the test 400 you would have 200mg.

Some users experience more pain after injection from a higher concentrated dose. Really the only difference.


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[Jaxz]

400 may bite a little bit . Anything over 300 for me isn't worth it .

 

[christiantt]

400mg is higher concentration of the compound and yes, there will probably be some pip.

When doing a first injection of a high concentrated compound, I go with the glute first to test. My quads are more sensitive to inflammation from high concentrated compounds, so if my glute flares up, I know my quads will be very bad and not worth it.
I found this out the hard way, for example: did a 300mg sust injection in the quad the first time and my whole right thigh swelled up, painful, hobbling around for a damn week.
Did the same compound and amount in the upper glute and I got pip and a knot that went away in 3 days.

I would rather have pip/injection site knot in the glute as opposed to whatever awful reaction I would get from the quads. More tolerable.

 

[GhostB]

They didn't have the 250 so i grabbed the 400 thinking it was just a bigger jar. Should I just hold onto those until the 250 is back or could I still manage to get the 500mg weekly split ?

 

[REHH]

They didn't have the 250 so i grabbed the 400 thinking it was just a bigger jar. Should I just hold onto those until the 250 is back or could I still manage to get the 500mg weekly split ?

Yes just do .5ml every 3 days

 

[Mighty-Mouse]

They didn't have the 250 so i grabbed the 400 thinking it was just a bigger jar. Should I just hold onto those until the 250 is back or could I still manage to get the 500mg weekly split ?

Honestly you have know business doing aas. You need to research.... wether it be by asking questions like these or reading on google about hormones. IMO you need to do further research by reading about compounds and dosing. Not asking questions but actually taking the time and researching. Hormones can fuck you up if you don’t know what you are doing.


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[zionoir626]

MM is right as usual..
You can get amazing results from the 1st cycle.
if done correctly..Questions like this raises a huge Red Flag..not trying to be the dick I normally am but if you want great results..put the time in before you pin..

 

[GhostB]

Lol

Honestly you have know business doing aas. You need to research.... wether it be by asking questions like these or reading on google about hormones. IMO you need to do further research by reading about compounds and dosing. Not asking questions but actually taking the time and researching. Hormones can fuck you up if you don’t know what you are doing.


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Isn't that what I'm doing is asking questions . Been training natty for 2 years im 34 I already have low t levels at 290. Im not jumping into the deep end without knowing how to swim. Its was a simple mistake for my first buy is all. Assuming the vials were just larger not stronger. Lesson learned. Only planning on a 12 week cycle 500 a week split than off for 6 or more. Im making sure to get my blood tests done along the way as well. So being as safe as I can. My diet and training is on point and I only asked for the difference from the 2. I appreciate your opinion on the matter but im going about it the right way I could easily grab the 250 instead if needed. (Newbie mistake) everyone starts somewhere

 

[FM19]

Knowing the concentration per ml is super basic ... I think the guys are saying if you don’t understand that, there are probably many other things you need to know before starting. Stick around, ask questions...waiting a few weeks/months while learning more will payoff with better health and results.

 

[GhostB]

Knowing the concentration per ml is super basic ... I think the guys are saying if you don’t understand that, there are probably many other things you need to know before starting. Stick around, ask questions...waiting a few weeks/months while learning more will payoff with better health and results.

I get that its pretty basic. Once it was explained I automatically understood the difference in the two. Rookie mistake . We can't all be pros And I'm not adding anything extra on first cycle.

 

[Mighty-Mouse]

Isn't that what I'm doing is asking questions . Been training natty for 2 years im 34 I already have low t levels at 290. Im not jumping into the deep end without knowing how to swim. Its was a simple mistake for my first buy is all. Assuming the vials were just larger not stronger. Lesson learned. Only planning on a 12 week cycle 500 a week split than off for 6 or more. Im making sure to get my blood tests done along the way as well. So being as safe as I can. My diet and training is on point and I only asked for the difference from the 2. I appreciate your opinion on the matter but im going about it the right way I could easily grab the 250 instead if needed. (Newbie mistake) everyone starts somewhere

Why are you so into jumping in to take test? Have you and your doc found the reason why your test levels are that low?

Why not trt?

Why not just use 200mg a week to get your levels up then?


Why take 6 or more off if, your natty levels are that low? That is a open and shut case for trt.

Too many questions and to me it just seems that you want to take the shortcut out. You need to figure out why your hormones are not hormoning

But, to each their own, it may hurt cause that’s a high concentration and if it doesn’t it’s prob underdosed. Also adding into the fact that you have virgin muscles. I personally would wait for the 250.

I been there when I got on trt years and years ago my levels were 130. Now I’m on it for life.


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[GhostB]

Why are you so into jumping in to take test? Have you and your doc found the reason why your test levels are that low?

Why not trt?

Why not just use 200mg a week to get your levels up then?


Why take 6 or more off if, your natty levels are that low? That is a open and shut case for trt.

Too many questions and to me it just seems that you want to take the shortcut out. You need to figure out why your hormones are not hormoning

But, to each their own, it may hurt cause that’s a high concentration and if it doesn’t it’s prob underdosed. Also adding into the fact that you have virgin muscles. I personally would wait for the 250.

I been there when I got on trt years and years ago my levels were 130. Now I’m on it for life.


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Ur correct on some of that. Im 40 digits to high for my insurance to cover it I need to be at 250 or lower and I'm at 290. Im by no means trying to take the fast route/easy way. Ive been training as hard as I can for last 2 years I've put on 25lbs of lbs since I started from 150 to 175 I would gladly show pics of my results. My macros are accounted for I get 1 cheat day a week train 5 days a week now instead of 6 in beginning. I did grow a passion for lifting and thought about gear along the way but b4 jumping in I got tested to see what I was getting myself into health wise thats when I found out it was only at 290. Dr said it was most likely related to my bad habits in lifestyle choices. Everything else came back normal they said. I called for self trt and its pretty damn expensive. Im going to continue training hoping that with normal levels or with the 500 weekly I will see better results and feel like a 34 year old man doc compared me to a 55 year old.

 

[GhostB]

I appreciate all the info . Yes I have more to learn. Don't mean to come off as a dick either or sound like idc what anyone says thats not the case. As you all know this isn't something you just openly talk about with people and I wanted to get advice from actual users not just web studies. I will continue bodybuilding and push myself to my limits along the way. Thanks everyone

 

[Oldschoolone]

They didn't have the 250 so i grabbed the 400 thinking it was just a bigger jar. Should I just hold onto those until the 250 is back or could I still manage to get the 500mg weekly split ?

Bigger jar? Dude you need to slow your roll. Do some research first , did you also know you can get tits from simply plunging Test? You can so be careful. The way you are talking you need much more information before doing any aas

 

[GhostB]

T2k is my coach he will take care of me i was just asking so I didn't have to hound him! Relax people lol

 

[Canebrake]

I have yet to shoot any over 250mg/ml that didn’t make me feel like a donkey kicked me in the injection spot.

 

[Mighty-Mouse]

O man the old international anabolic 500mg/ml days.... one shot and nope never the fuck again!

Also

Fuck xs hope he getting raped in his cell right now


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[Snookslayer05]

What you got for pct???

or if estrogen gets out of hand??

 

[zionoir626]

I know of few of us kinda hit you hard..but brother we are here to help each other..I would strongly recommend some deep dives in research and training..and of course diet..If all is done correctly,a yield of 30lbs is possible..All to often guys jump the gun and 2 months later a post rises about how things went sideways..So take a step back and get a better perspective..Remember we have all made mistakes,but if you can lean from ours..you will be miles ahead..

 

[GhostB]

Getting my quest lab test today b4 anything. Already grabbed the 250e going to use adex as well. Will get another test mid cycle if needed and again at end. 233.12 g protien 315.73 carbs 101.91 fat 3167.2cal 6 days a week clean food currently 175lbs. @MM lol

 

[GhostB]

Getting lab work this week already grabbed the 250e ( simple) going to take adex along with it . Will get labs during and after.

 

[TwoDollarTacos]

Newb question about to start cycling first time. Is the 400mg/ml test e the same as the 250mg/ml just in a larger vial? Or is it a higher dose? Going to do 500mg weekly split in 2 but got the super vials . Do I still just measure the 250mg out the 400?

For a first timer, I think 500mg Test E is too much. My first cycle was Test E 250mg per week but I'm also a lot more conservative in my dosing compared to a lot of what I've seen on the internet nowadays.

 

[Snookslayer05]

For a first timer, I think 500mg Test E is too much. My first cycle was Test E 250mg per week but I'm also a lot more conservative in my dosing compared to a lot of what I've seen on the internet nowadays.

this^^^^

the way I was explained into aas.... if your learning to play basket ball.... your not going to start learning how to shoot from behind the 3 point line.... your going to start small doing layups. Then work your way out slowly as you master them.

you always want to start off small dose. And gradually increase. Start out just test low dose. 250 mg per week. You will be surprised for a new person already working out and if diet is on point for what your trying to do... then you will see a great increase. Learn how your body reacts to the test. If you get any sides or anything. Then when you feel like you hit a plateau you can increase your test and maybe add some deca in. 500mg week test 250 week deca. Later on. To get over that plateau when you feel like you gained all you coukd from the test at 250 a week. If you just go diving in head first running high doses... then when you plateau and can’t gain any more size you will have nothing new to introduce. All you can do is just add excessive amounts and that’s when people start getting really bad sides. Don’t strictly rely on gear thinking oh if I start out high dose of test I’ll be an ifbb pro in 3 months. My first cycle I started out 250 week test and increased my calorie intake and started eating atleast something every 2 hours. And it made a really big difference.

people are just giving you a hard time so you can do it right.... so you can get the full benifits from it. The owner of my company just got on trt with his dr and has made a really big difference in his muscle and size. And we damn sure know drs doing trt will not give you anywhere close to 500mg a week. Don’t rely so heavily on gear. When you can’t get any more size or anything and feel like that’s the biggest you will get.... then up the dose or add a new compound.

 

[hot rod]

Getting lab work this week already grabbed the 250e ( simple) going to take adex along with it . Will get labs during and after.

Yeah man- my advice is just do the 250 (1 ml/cc) twice a week. The 400 WILL cause pip-it's a fact. These guys are just trying to help u. I can tell ur gonna do it anyway, so at least try and do it right. U may not need the adex or any other AI. Most guys tolerate 500 a wk pretty good, however u may not be most guys so have it just in case. Maybe watch a video or two on how to inject and I would prob. do a mon/thurs split on the pinning. Do some research on trt since u have low T, and welcome to the club. We're here to help u bro, so if u have any questions, feel free to PM me anytime. Good Luck!