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Cigarettes can keep you lean
Right and we know they don’t cause cancer lol
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Cigarettes can keep you lean
Not at all vision I like you. But you kind of dismissed some very strong points I laid out that have standing. As for the studies all we have are rodent studies. Like I stated before there was a very short very small human study that showed improvements in cholesterol. Unfortunately 1 15 day human study is meaningless. That would be like a 15 day human study on tobacco or alcohol. Everything would more than likely be in range.What makes you think I'm running on fumes over here, intellectually speaking? I'm just curious to know what sparked this wild goose chase of a notion?
Now if you believe that, I'm confident that A sombrero would fit your head like dematise.
I'm baffled why you're clinging to this like a bad habit or trying to turn it into some kind of showdown, but if that's your jam, let's recap: I've repeatedly shown you're off the mark, your arguments are like a house of cards, and your go-to move is citing dodgy animal studies or research from places with more legal issues than a lawyer's client list. Do you really think I'm here for that circus?![]()
Thank you My friend. Straight forward and I appreciate your post.I hold you in high esteem, brother, and value our relationship built on respect and open dialogue. Though we may agree or disagree, our exchanges often lead to new insights. Nevertheless, in this particular case, I must correct you - your facts are inaccurate, especially those I brought to your attention (highlighted in your quotation)
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This concept has been discussed in many online forums for a long time, but it is often misunderstood.
This was first tested on research rodents that are genetically engineered to be highly susceptible to cancer and have a maximum lifespan of three years, the WISTAR rat.
This specific rodent is an outbred stock, used in all fields of medical and biological research.
Its longevity and high rate of spontaneous tumours make it an ideal choice for ageing studies..
This translation is they are extremely sensitive and prone with getting tumors and displaying cancer growth at excessive rates, with a vast majority of drugs, chemicals and other compounds, the majority of them will develop cancer anyway, however these rodents are used because the younger models will show a much faster on set compared to the older models that eventually developed cancer and Will ultimately soon expire.
With these animal models, the dosages varied considerably, however, the majority that received some of the lowest dosages were equivalent to 45-50mg in human use, furthermore the studies that were conducted in some of these rats were for long durations with long exposure..
Now the recreational use in human beings is 10-20mg..
This research since has and was moved on to humans but not right after it was abandoned and discontinued on the animal models, with that being said humans were given 10mg with displaying almost zero negative or adverse effects..
It would be literally impossible to pinpoint who has developed cancer since, Yet people are developing cancer at an alarming rate for many things, and a lot of these people have never heard of cardarine nor is it even remotely near their lifestyle..
The testing in these animal models is greatly flawed.
Now the probability with the potentials of people getting cancer, it will be foolish to say that it could never happen, Yet there it still lacks concrete evidence that it's likely, with that being said it's simply speculated and slim to nil..
This is something that basically comes down to user beware, people should use it at respectable dosages, specifically 10mgs and only for short durations.
People get wrapped up in these cancer studies and they run from this compound, as if it's the erupting volcano of Pompeii.Yet a good portion of these people don't pull blood work, and they're running compounds that have their RBC through the roof and their blood is thick as ragu sauce.
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I saw this before. Thanks for sharing
No, that wasn't the goal for me with MOTS-C. It was mitochondrial health benefits. I noticed if I took it 30-45 min prior to workouts, I had increased endurance and focus. I take 7.5mg before every workout. I cycle on and off with it and SS31.MOTS-C, did you lose fat / weight while taking it?
What was your experience like?
Good to know thanksNo, that wasn't the goal for me with MOTS-C. It was mitochondrial health benefits. I noticed if I took it 30-45 min prior to workouts, I had increased endurance and focus. I take 7.5mg before every workout. I cycle on and off with it and SS31.
I didn't notice any fat loss or increased endurance with Cardarine.
I posted a detailed log for @Vision on PSL. It was amazing. I am not sure if it was mental or real but did feel that extra little drive. Blood work after showed total cholesterol at 170 while on Test/Mast/Tren and Var which is remarkable.How is this "Super Cardarine" Compared to the GW-50516<? type?
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We carry it now brother.I'm still waiting for YMS to start carrying cardarine.![]()