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WTF is it with locking threads?

Omoplata said:
Plot twist: the testosterone is actually estradiol and people are experiencing PMS
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Yeah, but some of these jabronis even on test never ever take an AI and they are constantly raggin
You can tell which ones pretty much daily
 
AR-15 said:
Sorry to break up all the bitching and fighting but man every time I hear or see someone use the words “Verbal Judo” I legit laugh out loud. Don’t ask cause I don’t know. It just sounds funny.
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This is my all-time go-to word, thought I was the only one that used it hahah..
 
WED said:
If the OP has to address something it implies he has explaining to do. There is something nefarious going on.

He bought your Primo, sent it to Janko, came back 100% Test Prop, posted here after you two DM'd and you know he was testing.

If he has something to explain, it means he's lied. IDK how there is any other way to read that
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You're really diving headfirst into assumptions and coming up with all these wild scenarios, straight up cannonballing right into them like a boss.....
But just chill for a second, you're in no position to dictate what someone else can or can't do.... The original poster said they’d update us from the get-go....

That's totally their call.

If you're not into it, maybe it's time to find another topic to follow, because you definitely don’t get to decide what’s important or what someone’s word is worth. This is their situation, not yours...

They'll deal with it however they want. I'm just passing the message along. It's not my job to make it make sense for you, but that's how it’s gonna be. You don’t have to like it, but you’re definitely gonna have to deal with it.

And for those worried about products not being pulled, news flash ; there wasn’t any. They were sold out, so there was nothing to remove "at that point"...
 
GYMnTONIC said:
It works both ways. There's snakes on both sides of the aisle and we do our best to control both of them. Overall we do a pretty good job.

I can't tell you how many times a member has made a thread about a source and it ends up being false or partially false.

That or testing. Anyone can remove a label and put it on a vial and pass it off. The problem is a lot of trust is required and if a new member appears and is slamming a brand, it's very hard to trust and believe that person...even if they are telling the truth.

Consistency speaks volumes. Look at the brands who consistently have good reviews.
Could they partial scam? Yes? Have they? Yes. Have we caught them? Yes. Have we booted them off the board? Yes.

I am a long time member and I feel like some of you guys need a dose of.reality...being a mod or even me as an admin isn't a full time job. Or paying job. Several of us rep or own brands. Yes. But that doesn't protect us. We still hold each other's feet to the fire...if I ban someone and another mod says hey ur a little harsh, unban them. I will.

As a long time member let me assure you there is no perfect system. And when members report things but omit facts, that's lying. That happens so often and is why threads will be locked.

There are 3 sides to every story. There side, your side and the truth.

Some of you guys are looking for Amazon style delivery and protection.

There are no guarantees here. We do the best we can with the facts we can gather.

"Let's think about this for a sec... Why would somebody put a guarantee on a box? Hmm, very interesting. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside. 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter. The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer?".

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WED said:
Agree. The arguing is over the non-response.

@Captain_Furious has your silence been bought? What do you have to explain. You're on the board reading your DMs
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Honestly, this one struck a nerve. Here is what I have to say about the situation... YMS gave me a full refund including cost of Janoshik testing. PSL, same thing. It's not my place (I don't know anyway) to speak for a source. If and when YMS and PSL decide to provide an explanation, you'll get it. And its not my responsibility to provide you with one, because I dont know you and I don't owe you anything. End of the day, I wanted a full reimbursement, which I got. Do me a favor and keep my name out of your personal drama. I did what was right, which was to post the results and alert the community to the good and bad. I don't answer to you or anyone else on this board. For the most part I mind my own business. I come here to learn as much as possible and implement it as I learn to live the lifestyle.

I don't appreciate the innuendo and not-so-subtle "hints" that I might be involved at some level. If you dont like my explanation, then that's just too bad. And for more information you're not entitled to (I'm sick of this pervasive attitude of entitlement that i see in every aspect of our society), I've answered a number of questions through PM, but after seeing your BS message I quoted above, I won't be answering anyone. Why? Because you decided to drag my name into this conversation by alluding to some nefarious motivation for why I haven't chimed in. Thanks for dragging me into something that has nothing to do with me and that started out with me just sharing test results with the community. I have enough excitement in life. I don't need to add message oard drama to it.

Final thing... after what happened, and what I've seen happen over the past few months, I will continue with my philosophy of "trust but verify". I sent a bottle of anavar off for testing as well as a bottle of test-e and a bottle of Primo (bought in January of this year if I recall correctly). Shipped to Janoshik today and I'll share the results with the community when I get them. The results, whatever they are, can stand for themselves.

That's my last word on this topic and this thread as well as the original thread that's locked. If someone here thinks they are entitled to a further explanation, go ask WED since he seems to think he knows everything about everybody anyway.

Later.
 
Vision said:
You're really diving headfirst into assumptions and coming up with all these wild scenarios, s
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Dude you're acting hella coy about everything then posting a novel. You can just say "I refunded him"....it's what virtually every other sponsor has done recently (except H&B). You saying "he can come tell his side of the the story" just makes it seem like there is more to it....which is why I asked questions.

I've bought a good bit from PSL and hyped the Primo multiple times.

Vision said:
you definitely don’t get to decide what’s important
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Vision said:
And for those worried about products not being pulled, news flash ; there wasn’t any. They were sold out, so there was nothing to remove "at that point"...
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It's available on your site and has been for a couple days....no?
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Captain_Furious said:
Honestly, this one struck a nerve. Here is what I have to say about the situation... YMS gave me a full refund including cost of Janoshik testing. PSL, same thing. It's not my place (I don't know anyway) to speak for a source. If and when YMS and PSL decide to provide an explanation, you'll get it. And its not my responsibility to provide you with one, because I dont know you and I don't owe you anything. End of the day, I wanted a full reimbursement, which I got. Do me a favor and keep my name out of your personal drama. I did what was right, which was to post the results and alert the community to the good and bad. I don't answer to you or anyone else on this board. For the most part I mind my own business. I come here to learn as much as possible and implement it as I learn to live the lifestyle.

I don't appreciate the innuendo and not-so-subtle "hints" that I might be involved at some level. If you dont like my explanation, then that's just too bad. And for more information you're not entitled to (I'm sick of this pervasive attitude of entitlement that i see in every aspect of our society), I've answered a number of questions through PM, but after seeing your BS message I quoted above, I won't be answering anyone. Why? Because you decided to drag my name into this conversation by alluding to some nefarious motivation for why I haven't chimed in. Thanks for dragging me into something that has nothing to do with me and that started out with me just sharing test results with the community. I have enough excitement in life. I don't need to add message oard drama to it.

Final thing... after what happened, and what I've seen happen over the past few months, I will continue with my philosophy of "trust but verify". I sent a bottle of anavar off for testing as well as a bottle of test-e and a bottle of Primo (bought in January of this year if I recall correctly). Shipped to Janoshik today and I'll share the results with the community when I get them. The results, whatever they are, can stand for themselves.

That's my last word on this topic and this thread as well as the original thread that's locked. If someone here thinks they are entitled to a further explanation, go ask WED since he seems to think he knows everything about everybody anyway.

Later.
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Thanks, babe....but be careful what you're stressing over DMs

Vision said:
The original poster has stress to me that he will chime in on how it was handled.
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WED said:
Dude you're acting hella coy about everything then posting a novel. You can just say "I refunded him"....it's what virtually every other sponsor has done recently (except H&B). You saying "he can come tell his side of the the story" just makes it seem like there is more to it....which is why I asked questions.

I've bought a good bit from PSL and hyped the Primo multiple times.


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It's available on your site and has been for a couple days....no?
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This is a little bizarre that you seem to be repeating yourself, being overly concerned on how I choose to conduct myself.
Third world problems.

By the way, what's with your big posts as well?

Not entirely sure where you're going with the Primo recently being added within days, because I emphasized in my post " at that point ", When I was speaking about Primo not being in stock you silly Sally, but here you go again being a goofy gander.
Clearly you know grammar school taught us that means it was a previous existence, no?

With all of your desperate attempts, nowhere have you made a stain or even a difference. Think about me telling you those words while you attempt to sleep at night.🤪

Oh, just an FYI, you're going on ignore because you're really not that important for me to even give a bologna what you have to say. I have boundaries, and I'm not going to allow someone to speak to me in the desperation that you've been. Not only are you insignificant and not important, when the devices go off that little parasite that you are you disappear.. 🤣🤣🤣

Toodles..
 
Vision said:
With all of your desperate attempts, nowhere have you made a stain or even a difference. Think about me telling you those words while you attempt to sleep at night
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Stop being the victim. I've supported PSL and propped them up. No one is trying to damage you....

Looking forward to the resolution. I know you said you are close
 
WED said:
Stop being the victim. I've supported PSL and propped them up. No one is trying to damage you....

Looking forward to the resolution. I know you said you are close
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Thank you, and yes I've always recognized that you have been vocal with PSL, however this is not said victimizing.
I personally have boundaries, I do not accept nor tolerate people being passive aggressive. There's a time and place for a rough game of two hand touch, that I can dig it, some playful banter, I'm all for it.
But subtle mockery comments, No bueno.

Speak to me like a person, and I'll speak you like a person.
But we both agree that neither of us have beef, we are just choosing different words on how we're conveying things.
 
Vision said:
Thank you, and yes I've always recognized that you have been vocal with PSL, however this is not said victimizing.
I personally have boundaries, I do not accept nor tolerate people being passive aggressive. There's a time and place for a rough game of two hand touch, that I can dig it, some playful banter, I'm all for it.
But subtle mockery comments, No bueno.

Speak to me like a person, and I'll speak you like a person.
But we both agree that neither of us have beef, we are just choosing different words on how we're conveying things.
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I don't believe there has been anything passive or subtle with my comments. Think I've been pretty direct.

Looking forward to y'all figuring it out and hoping everyone know what the problem was. Hopefully the investigation is moving
 
Gentleman, let me just try to make this simple and clear, we all know I be able babble and I even mock myself for it.

Nowhere did I try to minimize or talk this topic away, because we are still in the middle of an investigation we need to get our hands on something else in order for us to do our part.

Let me reiterate, not us, but the network, all I'm doing is relaying information back and forth, I can only get so much information so quick and with these time zones it absolutely sucks, it appears that I'm delaying when that's not the case.

For the statement that was made that some people don't deserve an explanation, that is directed at the trolls and they know who they are. Either way they will read the results because I'll post them, all I'm simply saying is that I'm not doing it for their demands, because they are nobody to me.

For each and every single representative that I know from other sources, in private can vouch especially reps that I helped get positions, I've always told them to be a member to the community first before your representative.

This hasn't changed, but on the flip side it is my job and duty to try to get the information you guys need, People saying I'm stalling or not saying anything, because I don't know anything.

You guys see a bottle that's on a test, and I see a bottle that's on a test

I know just as much as you guys know in that case , There's other logistics that is being worked on with locating where it came from. From there, I could only assume a million questions would be asked before someone's thrown out a window (That's a figure of speech).
 
These type of threads kill me. Alot of these members commenting arnt looking for a resolution they are looking to stir up drama because this is the only place they feel safe speaking their mind. Vision has always been solid and it blows my mind how one slip up warrants people to talk reckless. Psl is looking into it and will continue to do so until they get the answers they needs. You don't get a solid rep or be on these boards decades if you are doing bad business. Asf is a big family but all these trolls cause chaos and turn everyone against each other. That's the bad thing with forums so many ppl feel tough behind their keyboard haha.. end if the day psl and vision have always been solid. No more drama here vision will post the findings once there's something to report. Until then keep it pushin
 
big_rich said:
These type of threads kill me. Alot of these members commenting arnt looking for a resolution they are looking to stir up drama because this is the only place they feel safe speaking their mind. Vision has always been solid and it blows my mind how one slip up warrants people to talk reckless. Psl is looking into it and will continue to do so until they get the answers they needs. You don't get a solid rep or be on these boards decades if you are doing bad business. Asf is a big family but all these trolls cause chaos and turn everyone against each other. That's the bad thing with forums so many ppl feel tough behind their keyboard haha.. end if the day psl and vision have always been solid. No more drama here vision will post the findings once there's something to report. Until then keep it pushin
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Amen.
 
AR-15 said:
I’m not trying to be a disrespectful asshole to anyone here but I’m like legit pissed. Other than a private board I belong to ASF has always been my Go To for talking about like minded shit with good dudes without having to worry too much about being scammed one way or another. Now I click on and start to read a thread about testing and every time it’s about a source other than a select few it gets locked or deleted. Fuck that. Delete whatever info is supposedly being posted that’s not allowed and let the rest be. I come here because I thought it was one of the more honest boards on the web. I belong to like 11 boards right now and you wouldn’t believe what goes on behind the scenes with the mods and admins and the sources. It’s a dirty ass game and I honestly thought ASF was different. I still do but I’m definitely not liking the mods and admins censoring what I see based on who’s who. Kinda seems that way lately. I hope I’m wrong. I really do.
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You are NoT Wrong my friend! I completely agree with you!!! One of the main reason I don’t post so much anymore but I think I’m going to start up again.


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All any of this drama does is tell me that it's not a good time to be buying gear. May not be for a long time at this rate.
 
[Pinhead] said:
All any of this drama does is tell me that it's not a good time to be buying gear. May not be for a long time at this rate.
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That's not true, this type of stuff has been happening long before the shortage. Probably more so, it's just being brought to light now. And things are starting to turn around, I just received some good news this morning.
 

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