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When stacking with Tren A, do you prefer Test Prop or Test E?

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So, I'm drawing up a 8 week cycle. It'll be based around a big lean bulk using Tren.

Now, I was wondering how pinning every day would be, alongside the amount of pins. Would it be smarter to do Test Enanthate and stack that with Tren, or do you guys do prop with tren?

Also, can I mix the two into one needle to reduce the amount of pins?
 
8 weeks surly is not long enough for those long esters, by the time your blood plasma builds and reaches a positive medium, you'r cutting it short..

And yes you can mix compounds in the same pin...

By the way, what is your age and stats? seems that you really need to do some more research here, because of your 8 week with long esters, and your other inquires...


Far as the esters with the compounds, its all about personal preference, the esters with the same hormone are just the same as long esters, its simply half-lives that separate them, the characteristics remain the same with almost no differ or trade off (metabolisms will vary from one to the next,favoring some esters over the next)..
 
8 weeks is a pretty short cycle.. What made you decide that amount of time? You can mix Test E with Tren A if you want but they have different half lives. Are you going to pin the test e on the same ED schedule like you would the Tren A? If so you might as well just use test prop and keep any extra water retention our of the mix with your long esters.
 
Sorry, forgot to mention if I was go with test E, I'd be kickstarting with test prop until the test E settles in. I just have a really bad habit of not explaining everything properly haha

I've ran one cycle before this one, was a Test E cycle, 12 weeks. PCT and everything went smooth, everything was great. Gained 20+ kept it till I got really ill a few months after.
 
rikusf said:
So, I'm drawing up a 8 week cycle. It'll be based around a big lean bulk using Tren.

Now, I was wondering how pinning every day would be, alongside the amount of pins. Would it be smarter to do Test Enanthate and stack that with Tren, or do you guys do prop with tren?

Also, can I mix the two into one needle to reduce the amount of pins?
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Personal preference and what I'm running at the time. Normally already on cruise, but in the summer I tend to switch to short esters for a good ol quick blast.

That being said, id use slin pins. Makes ED or EOD pinning very convenient.

Mixing multiple compounds in a single is perfectly fine.
 
I want to go with 8 weeks because PCT from 12 weeks while also playing sports at the level I'm at was a bitch to deal with. Felt like 3 months of no ambition for anything.
 
With tren a, it depends on where im at, If its a 16 week prep or so ill start with long estered test, then 6-8 weeks out ill switch to prop so if i wana make changes to my test doses you can see it within just a few days compared to test e or c where it could take 2 weeks or so before you notice much. Much easier to fine tune the cycle using prop. If I was gonna run just an 8-12 week cut id use prop, if it was a bulk id probably use test e or c since the extra water doesnt matter and it also isnt crazy important to be able to make changes to doses and see the difference right away.
 
I would stack Tren Ace with Masteron and winny ot tbol. WIthout any testosterone, dont need bloated look.
Sure you can mix all kind of oils in one syringe.
 
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domestic-supply said:
I would stack Tren Ace with Masteron and winny ot tbol. WIthout any testosterone, dont need bloated look.
Sure you can mix all kind of oils in one syringe.
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Am I reading this correctly? You're recommending no testosterone?
 
domestic-supply said:
I would stack Tren Ace with Masteron and winny ot tbol. WIthout any testosterone, dont need bloated look.
Sure you can mix all kind of oils in one syringe.
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Worst advice I have ever heard....

Testosterone always needs to be implemented, no AAS will EVER duplicate testosterones primary functions, AAS are a derivative of testosterone and may simulate but never duplicated.... the course of action with testosterones primary functions are one of a kind!
 
domestic-supply said:
I would stack Tren Ace with Masteron and winny ot tbol. WIthout any testosterone, dont need bloated look.
Sure you can mix all kind of oils in one syringe.
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What??? He complained of his PCT feeling no motivation to do anything. There is NO WAY he should do this. It will just screw him up even worse.
 
Lol can you mix the 2

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A lot of guys like to use Test P when running tren A. Personally I like to run test c or e usually low 200-300mgs. However I usually run 12 week cycles. If I was going to run a shorter cycle like 8 weeks and wanted to run test higher I might consider test p.
 
Im a bug guy, Im not concerned about getting bigger, Im not going pro :)
and I have no problems with libido while Im on tren and masteron..

BOBCAT said:
Am I reading this correctly? You're recommending no testosterone?
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3months of dieting, no testosterone, only winny, tren, tbol.

Vision said:
Worst advice I have ever heard....

Testosterone always needs to be implemented, no AAS will EVER duplicate testosterones primary functions, AAS are a derivative of testosterone and may simulate but never duplicated.... the course of action with testosterones primary functions are one of a kind!
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First of all his original question was:
"Now, I was wondering how pinning every day would be, alongside the amount of pins. Would it be smarter to do Test Enanthate and stack that with Tren, or do you guys do prop with tren?

Also, can I mix the two into one needle to reduce the amount of pins?"

He can do whatever he wants. He asked what other guys do. Thats what I do.
Prove that "testosterone always to be implemented" statement please.
My first and second cycle were dbol only and I got much bigger without taking any test at all.

I was running no test cycle for 3months. It was tren, winny, tbol and some other things..
Here is a picture of me by the end of that cycle.
30msjd5.jpg
 
domestic-supply said:
3months of dieting, no testosterone, only winny, tren, tbol.


First of all his original question was:
"Now, I was wondering how pinning every day would be, alongside the amount of pins. Would it be smarter to do Test Enanthate and stack that with Tren, or do you guys do prop with tren?

Also, can I mix the two into one needle to reduce the amount of pins?"

He can do whatever he wants. He asked what other guys do. Thats what I do.
Prove that "testosterone always to be implemented" statement please.
My first and second cycle were dbol only and I got much bigger without taking any test at all.

I was running no test cycle for 3months. It was tren, winny, tbol and some other things..
Here is a picture of me by the end of that cycle.
30msjd5.jpg
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You want me to prove to you on how necessary testosterone is? If you need an explanation for that, then this conversation is done...

It seems to be the new thing in the Middle East and Asia to be running Cycles without testosterone, but I'm not going to even scratched the surface on how silly this is....

But just a quick FYI, this isn't about how you're going to look with or without testosterone it's about how you're going to feel...
 
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I've also been told test is the basis of every cycle. If the bloat worries you then jump to prop. I prefer shorter esters cause as mentioned... It's much easier to adjust
 
domestic-supply said:
3months of dieting, no testosterone, only winny, tren, tbol.


First of all his original question was:
"Now, I was wondering how pinning every day would be, alongside the amount of pins. Would it be smarter to do Test Enanthate and stack that with Tren, or do you guys do prop with tren?

Also, can I mix the two into one needle to reduce the amount of pins?"

He can do whatever he wants. He asked what other guys do. Thats what I do.
Prove that "testosterone always to be implemented" statement please.
My first and second cycle were dbol only and I got much bigger without taking any test at all.

I was running no test cycle for 3months. It was tren, winny, tbol and some other things..
Here is a picture of me by the end of that cycle.
30msjd5.jpg
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I'd take this guy's advice any fuckin day. I admire his physique and want to look like that too!


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Keeping test out of cycles is bad advice. And should never be reccomended to anyone. How a person looks should never be a reason to take their word for it. Do your own research and you will discover why test should always be a base in each and every cycle.
 
big_rich said:
Keeping test out of cycles is bad advice. And should never be reccomended to anyone. How a person looks should never be a reason to take their word for it. Do your own research and you will discover why test should always be a base in each and every cycle.
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So you're saying I should take the regurgitated information out there from others who's physiques I haven't seen over this guy's?!? ...that sounds like a crock of shit. I've experimented first hand dosing deca for 12 weeks with no testosterone base, proviron as my AI w/ a kickstart of 30mg dbol for 6 weeks. No lose of libido, little bit of water retention, and no gyno. Similar to what they apparently did in the 70s. Been holding out on bringing the matter up but now that I see a reputable source has the same opinion.....I know I'm not tweaking


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You'll be back to ask for suggestions when your pee-pee doesn't work...
 

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