TRT Swapping to Tren / Test/ Recommendations - Looking for more info on stacking etc.

[Shinyarne]

Good Afternoon,

I have previously use Test E a few times in the past at 500mg/w and always had amazing results. As of late I began TRT at Test Cyp 200/w and it just isn't doing shit for me...more so, its just me burning my money as ive felt no difference in 7 weeks so far while working out and eating properly beyond what a natty would get. Im looking to move over to Tren even or back to a Test stack without Tren but willing to discover your favorite combos.

My Body stats are:
27 years old
6'1
226lb
25% bf (all in the stomach "Skinny fat")

im sitting on about 30lbs of losable fat to reach around 17% BF which is a goal im reaching for currently, then maybe move it down to 12/10% then settle around 8-10.

I do love what Test E at 500mg did for me in terms of giving me an amazing body (To my surprise i found out i have great aesthetic genes), but this was done at around 24 years old when i was already VERY lean and was running upwards of 50 miles per week.

But heres the thing, I've done a lot of research on outcomes and everything... but its just not the same as hearing the experience and recommendations from active users.

Please do me some recommendations on what i should start doing to reach this 17% quickly, while gaining good muscle. I'm very disciplined with diet and exercise once i put my mind to it... and this is what im putting my mind to.



THANK YOU!

 

[Wardamn]

Tren is not needed to drop from 25% BF to Sub 20%. Diet and training is the answer. Do you have blood work on 200mg test Wk?

 

[Shinyarne]

Tren is not needed to drop from 25% BF to Sub 20%. Diet and training is the answer. Do you have blood work on 200mg test Wk?

I have my previous blood work from before I started, i hadn't taken one yet, was planning on an 8 week update bloodwork as i was looking to increase my dosage... but if my current is doing nothing, I dont see that going up 50 a week will do anything either

And i am fully aware it's possible to drop below 20% without using anabolics.

But im looking to add as much muscle on top as possible while reaching sub 12% in the end. its not for weightloss. just an addition to goals.

 

[Ziath11]

Gain muscle and loose fat 😳

 

[Painnogain]

It's been 7 weeks also, not sure why no one pointed this out but you're not blasting high amounts of gear, it's trt. Having stable levels of test in your system 24/7 WILL start working like crazy for you but you're just now getting those levels up. Longer you're on the more it seems to shine, especially after week 12 for me.

Plus no offense but even if it's started to have a slight cosmetic effect, at 25% body fat you wouldn't hardly notice it.

Stick to the trt, it will do you wonders. Especially at 200 a week. If you doubt it then get bloodwork done after week 12 to check your levels. Once you're under 20% maybe consider a cycle but I'd hit up primo/var before I hit tren up. Save tren for when you look great so that it can make you look incredible. No reason to blast tren and be miserable only to barely look much better visibly but be strong, sweaty, and horny 24/7.

 

[zionoir626]

How many cycles..??
What compounds have you tried..
Age.. weight...Goals..
WHY Tren..??
Any AI used...??
Z...

 

[badgerz94]

IMO, get to 15% before a cycle. Stick with TRT. ZERO reason to do a cycle above 15%. Its worth waiting for. The difference between 20% and 15% BF is enormous. You will have some visible abs, then doing maybe a Test/NPP cycle with a dialed in diet will make you look awesome

 

[Matt88]

Tren is terrible for a lot of guys. Lots of other options instead of diving straght into the deep end of the pool. Higher test, Primo, Deca, NPP, EQ, etc.

Since 500mg of test did great for you why not just run that again? Could toss in some anavar or Tbol for 4-6 weeks

 

[Fresh2Death]

Tren is terrible for a lot of guys. Lots of other options instead of diving straght into the deep end of the pool. Higher test, Primo, Deca, NPP, EQ, etc.

Since 500mg of test did great for you why not just run that again? Could toss in some anavar or Tbol for 4-6 weeks

500 test, 3-400 npp is always a great run