SS-31

[Meetketchup]

I took MOTS-C for about 10 days and it absolutely crushed my energy like nothing I’ve ever experienced. I am on a cut right now so maybe lower carb intake is part of the reason but it was so bad that getting up from my office chair to go take a leak took serious effort.

If you aren't deficient in MOTS-C this is what usually happens unfortunately. There are people who need it and those who don't.

 

[REHH]

If you aren't deficient in MOTS-C this is what usually happens unfortunately. There are people who need it and those who don't.

At what dose? And how do you know if you’re deficient? Testing or just by side effects

 

[01dragonslayer]

At what dose? And how do you know if you’re deficient? Testing or just by side effects

Interested as well.........

 

[Meetketchup]

At what dose? And how do you know if you’re deficient? Testing or just by side effects

Enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) measures the concentration of MOTS-c in the body.

Generally, MOT-C levels decline with age so the older you are the more likely you would benefit. 40 and 50's+ especially

People are using way too much dosing wise. People that often come to me are on it and when taken out or dosing is brought down, usually feel better.

These are MY opinions. If you use MOT-C and think it's amazing, do your thing.

 

[REHH]

Enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) measures the concentration of MOTS-c in the body.

Generally, MOT-C levels decline with age so the older you are the more likely you would benefit. 40 and 50's+ especially

People are using way too much dosing wise. People that often come to me are on it and when taken out or dosing is brought down, usually feel better.

These are MY opinions. If you use MOT-C and think it's amazing, do your thing.

Thanks for info.
I’ve been taking Mots 1-2.5mg 2-3x/week along with NAD at 25-50mg and not feeling any lethargy. I do feel more alert, and some increased energy. The only support supplement of the ones mentioned that I took at the same time was creatine

 

[BBSQ5]

Enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) measures the concentration of MOTS-c in the body.

Generally, MOT-C levels decline with age so the older you are the more likely you would benefit. 40 and 50's+ especially

People are using way too much dosing wise. People that often come to me are on it and when taken out or dosing is brought down, usually feel better.

These are MY opinions. If you use MOT-C and think it's amazing, do your thing.

I’m 48 and wife is 43 and we are just finishing up a MOT-C protocol and I am of the opinion that you state about age and dosing benefiting.

 

[19NorFan]

Does anyone know of any domestic suppliers w/ ss31 100mg+ kits?

 

[REHH]

Update the SS31 fucked up my sleep big time, was a combination of peptides with mots-c and Nad+ mixed in there.
Ss31 1mg
Mots-c 1mg
Nad 25mg
Doesn’t matter if I take first thing in the morning, the effects on sleep last 3 days after injection.
Went off all peptides to clean out and do a reset.

Also it seems the initial effects of GhK-cu where I got tremendous relief of pain and inflammation in my neck and low back has worn off to some degree. I went off for 3 days then back on and the effects were much less. I’m still getting some relief but not as much, seems my body acclimated to it somewhat. I will experiment some more.

 

[Crit]

Update the SS31 fucked up my sleep big time, was a combination of peptides with mots-c and Nad+ mixed in there.
Ss31 1mg
Mots-c 1mg
Nad 25mg
Doesn’t matter if I take first thing in the morning, the effects on sleep last 3 days after injection.
Went off all peptides to clean out and do a reset.

Also it seems the initial effects of GhK-cu where I got tremendous relief of pain and inflammation in my neck and low back has worn off to some degree. I went off for 3 days then back on and the effects were much less. I’m still getting some relief but not as much, seems my body acclimated to it somewhat. I will experiment some more.

Do you feel a lot of energy? and what's causing the insomnia? is like when you take too much coffee?

 

[javman]

Update the SS31 fucked up my sleep big time, was a combination of peptides with mots-c and Nad+ mixed in there.
Ss31 1mg
Mots-c 1mg
Nad 25mg
Doesn’t matter if I take first thing in the morning, the effects on sleep last 3 days after injection.
Went off all peptides to clean out and do a reset.

Also it seems the initial effects of GhK-cu where I got tremendous relief of pain and inflammation in my neck and low back has worn off to some degree. I went off for 3 days then back on and the effects were much less. I’m still getting some relief but not as much, seems my body acclimated to it somewhat. I will experiment some more.

Saw a video with Dr Froese on YT and stated the it's best to do Ss31 first and after doing that for awhile it will prep your body for MotsC. I'm going to go that route and see what happens.

 

[BBSQ5]

Saw a video with Dr Froese on YT and stated the it's best to do Ss31 first and after doing that for awhile it will prep your body for MotsC. I'm going to go that route and see what happens.

Yeah, you’ll see all kinds of mixed advice from all of the “Experts” on running MOT-C first, then SS-31 and vice versa.

 

[Meetketchup]

Yeah, you’ll see all kinds of mixed advice from all of the “Experts” on running MOT-C first, then SS-31 and vice versa.

There are no "experts" on these mitochondrial peptides in humans. It's all trial and error at this point with people experimenting on themselves.

 

[Meetketchup]

Update the SS31 fucked up my sleep big time, was a combination of peptides with mots-c and Nad+ mixed in there.

I am seeing a lot of people getting negative sides from SS31. It's one of the peptides I'd hold off on using until more data is available. Just my opinion.

 

[REHH]

Do you feel a lot of energy? and what's causing the insomnia? is like when you take too much coffee?

Yes, it’s a restless feeling, tossing and turning in bed all night long.

 

[BBSQ5]

There are no "experts" on these mitochondrial peptides in humans. It's all trial and error at this point with people experimenting on themselves.

For sure was being facetious when I said “Experts”.

I am glad that folk are posting experience though, because wife and I were going to run it next and just finished the MOT-C run (Nothing exciting & likely didn’t need it) and finishing GHK right now, before we were going to run SS-31.

 

[BBSQ5]

Yes, it’s a restless feeling, tossing and turning in bed all night long.

I don’t need any more issues than I already have in regards to fucking with my sleep.

Guess I may have to stand back on this one for a bit, until more data comes out, like @Meetketchup

 

[Meetketchup]

I don’t need any more issues than I already have in regards to fucking with my sleep.

Guess I may have to stand back on this one for a bit, until more data comes out, like @Meetketchup

Especially putting your wife on it. I really don't understand what people think this peptide is going to do that leads to anything significant. The method of action prevents mitochondrial "leaking" not enhancing. Unless you have a deficiency, what is the point when we don't even know A) if it works in humans B) long term side effects C) worth the sides.

I'm not hating on peptides as insulin, BPC, GHK, DSIP and others are f'ing awesome. I just don't get the hype of the mitochondrial stuff. It's not like people are getting significant blasts of energy, fat loss, etc. Risk and cost vs reward.

 

[javman]

I am seeing a lot of people getting negative sides from SS31. It's one of the peptides I'd hold off on using until more data is available. Just my opinion.

I would tend to believe most start up with 5mg or more right off the bat instead of slowly titrating up slowly to see how they react to these different peptides.

 

[Meetketchup]

I would tend to believe most start up with 5mg or more right off the bat instead of slowly titrating up slowly to see how they react to these different peptides.

I've seen as from 1mg all the way up to 50mg. Sides seem individual thus far. Of course, this is just anecdote and not evidence. Nobody knows what it should be dosed at with any certainty yet.

 

[javman]

I've seen as from 1mg all the way up to 50mg. Sides seem individual thus far. Of course, this is just anecdote and not evidence. Nobody knows what it should be dosed at with any certainty yet.

Exactly. I for example do well with fat lose on low dose Reta from 1-2mg per week while others are way up there. Body chemistry makes a big difference.

 

[BBSQ5]

Especially putting your wife on it. I really don't understand what people think this peptide is going to do that leads to anything significant. The method of action prevents mitochondrial "leaking" not enhancing. Unless you have a deficiency, what is the point when we don't even know A) if it works in humans B) long term side effects C) worth the sides.

I'm not hating on peptides as insulin, BPC, GHK, DSIP and others are f'ing awesome. I just don't get the hype of the mitochondrial stuff. It's not like people are getting significant blasts of energy, fat loss, etc. Risk and cost vs reward.

So true!! I think it’s because we bought into the whole marketing of what it “Possibly” can do for folks who are over 40, etc.

She’s competed in Figure for so many years and I e beat the shit out of myself thinking I was Captain America for 26 years, that we were going in hope.

Likely will stay clear for now on the anymore MOT-C or SS-31 and see how things mature with it.

 

[Lordallmighty]

Especially putting your wife on it. I really don't understand what people think this peptide is going to do that leads to anything significant. The method of action prevents mitochondrial "leaking" not enhancing. Unless you have a deficiency, what is the point when we don't even know A) if it works in humans B) long term side effects C) worth the sides.

I'm not hating on peptides as insulin, BPC, GHK, DSIP and others are f'ing awesome. I just don't get the hype of the mitochondrial stuff. It's not like people are getting significant blasts of energy, fat loss, etc. Risk and cost vs reward.

Most people got broken metabolism from the childhood vaccinations, injecting viruses into the blood wich passes all the natural protections, causing neuroinflammation n mitochondria dysfunction

Its not normal to be 20 - 45 years old and need 5 cups of caffeine a day just to survive

Now ss31 seems alot less potent then nad n mots c, if the therapy is strong enough you will really feel it. most dont feel ss31 cause its weaker then the rest. people only recomend it cause it work on cardiolipin, but fail to realize there are tons of supplements that do

 

[BBSQ5]

Most people got broken metabolism from the childhood vaccinations, injecting viruses into the blood wich passes all the natural protections, causing neuroinflammation n mitochondria dysfunction

Its not normal to be 20 - 45 years old and need 5 cups of caffeine a day just to survive

Now ss31 seems alot less potent then nad n mots c, if the therapy is strong enough you will really feel it. most dont feel ss31 cause its weaker then the rest. people only recomend it cause it work on cardiolipin, but fail to realize there are tons of supplements that do

I guess I could say that I have had broken metabolism from more than just my childhood vaccines then, if this were to be the case, because I have had my fair share of extracurricular vaccines that the general public does not get over the 25+ years in the service.

 

[Ryandenzy]

Most people got broken metabolism from the childhood vaccinations, injecting viruses into the blood wich passes all the natural protections, causing neuroinflammation n mitochondria dysfunction

Its not normal to be 20 - 45 years old and need 5 cups of caffeine a day just to survive

Now ss31 seems alot less potent then nad n mots c, if the therapy is strong enough you will really feel it. most dont feel ss31 cause its weaker then the rest. people only recomend it cause it work on cardiolipin, but fail to realize there are tons of supplements that do

I found it very beneficial once I removed all stimulants. That's when I could feel the natural energy come in without the upp and down crashes from stimulants. It's been like six months and I have more energy than I have had in over a decade. Remove those variables and give it a shot.