Please help on 1st cycle

[DaddyTrump88]

Elllo there!


Currently 36, 183lbs, 5'11, 12% body fat.

On TRT 180mg of Test 1x a week (switching to 2x this week)

Been looking for awhile and I'm ready to hop on my 1st real cycle. I respond amazing to testosterone.

Levels are just under 900 currently.

Should I just increase my test to 350-400 and see how my body responds before adding masteron or another substance?

I feel okay. Nothing incredible. I actually have a little low E2 levels currently.

There's just so many options and I'm so unsure what way to turn.. I'm wanting to add size and strength obviously..but I don't want to effect my sex life..

Erections are not amazing but get the job done. My free test is 157 and E2 is at 17.

Doctor told me to take boron to help increase the free levels.

I felt incredible the first 2-3 months but now I don't really...

I just want to feel like I'm back on top. I'm willing to try anything once to see how my body responds. Especially since my body obviously doesn't aromatize quickly but seems to do quite the opposite..

I'll be supplementing myself, as I'm currently looking for a different trt doctor

 

[mae_geri]

300-400mg Test only for the first cycle is a good start. I would recommend 12-16weeks. Do bloodwork after 4 weeks. If your diet, lifestyle and sleep is on point you'll make very good gainz! My first cycle (Test only 400mg) I added 30lbs in 16 weeks!

 

[Meetketchup]

Get your E2 levels up. 17 is not conducive for muscle growth.

 

[aimanabolic]

I'll be supplementing myself, as I'm currently looking for a different trt doctor

Any reason you need a TRT doc if you're getting UGL Test?

 

[DaddyTrump88]

300-400mg Test only for the first cycle is a good start. I would recommend 12-16weeks. Do bloodwork after 4 weeks. If your diet, lifestyle and sleep is on point you'll make very good gainz! My first cycle (Test only 400mg) I added 30lbs in 16 weeks!

I added 40lbs in a bit over 3.5 months and my body fat only went up 3%..

How do I raise my E2 level's? Safely?

 

[DaddyTrump88]

Any reason you need a TRT doc if you're getting UGL Test?

Doctor won't go above my 180.

He'll prescribe HGH but I can't afford it.

I'm going to supplement with my own T and stop 4-6 weeks before my next labs (every 90 days)

He refuses to raise my test or do anything besides prescribe HGH. Honestly, I'm not very impressed with the doctor himself. The nurse that I talk to and administers my shot is the only who informed me of my low free test. (157.5)

Doctor is so hands off and hasn't caught one thing on my blood work, it's always his nurse

 

[DaddyTrump88]

Get your E2 levels up. 17 is not conducive for muscle growth.

Agreed. Trying to find out how to do so safely without actually taking estrogen.

Idk why he wouldn't prescribe a higher dose, or change my frequency of pinning.. he said 2x a week is "absolutely unnecessary"

 

[Pgcc648]

Elllo there!


Currently 36, 183lbs, 5'11, 12% body fat.

On TRT 180mg of Test 1x a week (switching to 2x this week)

Been looking for awhile and I'm ready to hop on my 1st real cycle. I respond amazing to testosterone.

Levels are just under 900 currently.

Should I just increase my test to 350-400 and see how my body responds before adding masteron or another substance?

I feel okay. Nothing incredible. I actually have a little low E2 levels currently.

There's just so many options and I'm so unsure what way to turn.. I'm wanting to add size and strength obviously..but I don't want to effect my sex life..

Erections are not amazing but get the job done. My free test is 157 and E2 is at 17.

Doctor told me to take boron to help increase the free levels.

I felt incredible the first 2-3 months but now I don't really...

I just want to feel like I'm back on top. I'm willing to try anything once to see how my body responds. Especially since my body obviously doesn't aromatize quickly but seems to do quite the opposite..

I'll be supplementing myself, as I'm currently looking for a different trt doctor

My opinion raise test to 500-600.And add something else. It doesn't have to be anything ridiculously strong like anadrol or tren. But just adding 400 mg of say deca can make a really huge difference. And it's very safe.

 

[DaddyTrump88]

My opinion raise test to 500-600.And add something else. It doesn't have to be anything ridiculously strong like anadrol or tren. But just adding 400 mg of say deca can make a really huge difference. And it's very safe.

Should the higher dosages at 2x a week instead of 1x, help with my E2?

 

[Meetketchup]

My opinion raise test to 500-600.And add something else. It doesn't have to be anything ridiculously strong like anadrol or tren. But just adding 400 mg of say deca can make a really huge difference. And it's very safe.

Wy would you jump to 500-600mg from 180mg and throw in a second compound when you could get comparable results on 350-400mg with only test?

No need for this dude to run 900-1000mg of anabolics.

 

[WheyMoreTraps]

Wy would you jump to 500-600mg from 180mg and throw in a second compound when you could get comparable results on 350-400mg with only test?

No need for this dude to run 900-1000mg of anabolics.

Sometimes people have to learn for themselves man. You know this. I wish I had taken the forums advice long ago and feel exponentially better and healthier at 250 test only than 1.2g gear.

 

[aimanabolic]

Doctor won't go above my 180.

That's more than enough, 150mg Test E with daily injections had me up to 1000-1100 Total T.

Match your Test dosage with Masteron E and get some HGH and call it a day.

Doctors are bound by law and insurance so they are only going to do what they can. You'll be hard pressed to have anyone prescribe over the 180mg.

 

[Astro95]

Sometimes people have to learn for themselves man. You know this. I wish I had taken the forums advice long ago and feel exponentially better and healthier at 250 test only than 1.2g gear.

3 grams feels phenomenal eat some veggies for health this is bodybuilding!! I kid kid

 

[Astro95]

Just up the test a couple hundred mgs, that should bring up e2 on its own, then pull bloodwork. If it’s good just ride that out.

 

[DaddyTrump88]

That's more than enough, 150mg Test E with daily injections had me up to 1000-1100 Total T.

Match your Test dosage with Masteron E and get some HGH and call it a day.

Doctors are bound by law and insurance so they are only going to do what they can. You'll be hard pressed to have anyone prescribe over the 180mg.

Mine is just under 900 with one time a week, possibly moving to two times a week if it makes sense.

I'll have to supplement myself, which is fine if it's necessary.

What's the best route to raise free test AND my E2?

Ugh. I feel defeated

 

[WheyMoreTraps]

3 grams feels phenomenal eat some veggies for health this is bodybuilding!! I kid kid

Don’t threaten me with a good time. I have a little stash I need to start using. Should I do 1g test 1g Dhb 1g tren? How many ius of pharma GH?

 

[Astro95]

Don’t threaten me with a good time. I have a little stash I need to start using. Should I do 1g test 1g Dhb 1g tren? How many ius of pharma GH?

Start at 18 and work your way up remember, minimal effective dose

 

[DaddyTrump88]

I think I'm gonna add 150 to my current dose and see how my body reacts..

Especially since my body aromatize's at a pretty low rate, hopefully I can get away with 3-400 total test with a good E2 number without using an AI.

I have arimidex, but I never filled them or taken them because my estrogen has never been high enough to need it and I don't want to crash it. No symptoms either obviously.

I don't want to be on "grams" of gear I just want to feel good.

 

[DaddyTrump88]

That's more than enough, 150mg Test E with daily injections had me up to 1000-1100 Total T.

Match your Test dosage with Masteron E and get some HGH and call it a day.

Doctors are bound by law and insurance so they are only going to do what they can. You'll be hard pressed to have anyone prescribe over the 180mg.

I'm not getting HGH. It's 500$ a month through my clinic and with family and the holidays around the corner, I just can't swing it.

I've seen HCG can raise E2 levels and I believe my clinic offers it. I'll call them tomorrow and see what I can figure out

 

[WheyMoreTraps]

I'm not getting HGH. It's 500$ a month through my clinic and with family and the holidays around the corner, I just can't swing it.

I've seen HCG can raise E2 levels and I believe my clinic offers it. I'll call them tomorrow and see what I can figure out

I’m not encouraging you to get on growth, just a reminder if and when you advance to that level there of plenty of legit sponsors here who sell phenomenal HGH for much less than that.

 

[Meetketchup]

Jesus christ, can we just let the guy run a simple test cycle?? lol

 

[Maxwell]

ironlion has good deals on HGH cost me about 100 a month

Yes you had the correct answer in the begining run a simple cycle upping the test a little bit lets say 350-400

 

[aimanabolic]

I'm not getting HGH. It's 500$ a month through my clinic

Don't get it from a clinic.

 

[DaddyTrump88]

Don't get it from a clinic.

Really? I've always been told that UGL HGH is no where near comparable to RX?

Let's say I chose to go this route..

What's a starting point where you actually see benefits? I know everyone is different.

Still.. it wouldn't be till after Xmas if I did go to HGH, I think I'm gonna order my test tonight and start this trip

 

[nightwing]

is it just me or can you crush your e2 w exogenous test alone? when my very fat ass went on trt just 200 blew my e2 out of the water. 2 years and 70 pounds lighter, my e2 was 28 on 350mg /week. equipoise ripped that to a 7 end of the summer.

 

[Meetketchup]

Really? I've always been told that UGL HGH is no where near comparable to RX?

Let's say I chose to go this route..

What's a starting point where you actually see benefits? I know everyone is different.

Still.. it wouldn't be till after Xmas if I did go to HGH, I think I'm gonna order my test tonight and start this trip

Plenty of threads with UGL vs Pharma GH w/ links to videos and evidence. Do some research.

 

[Meetketchup]

is it just me or can you crush your e2 w exogenous test alone? when my very fat ass went on trt just 200 blew my e2 out of the water. 2 years and 70 pounds lighter, my e2 was 28 on 350mg /week. equipoise ripped that to a 7 end of the summer.

Test increases E2. EQ reduces it.

Generally speaking.

 

[Steramine]

300-400mg Test only for the first cycle is a good start. I would recommend 12-16weeks. Do bloodwork after 4 weeks. If your diet, lifestyle and sleep is on point you'll make very good gainz! My first cycle (Test only 400mg) I added 30lbs in 16 weeks!

I'd have to agree I had about same results on my first cycle although I am on the shorter side it was still a surprise

 

[DaddyTrump88]

I went from 142 to almost 190 in less than 4 months. And my body fat is still low..

I couldn't gain weight hardly at all until TRT. Needless to say, I was (and still am) very impressed with the results. Especially being under 200mg. I guess my dose is considered "sports TRT?"

 

[RandomLifter]

OP plz just increase the Test a little before adding anything else.

I was on TRT for years b4 my first cycle and I only ran 300/ (which was double the dosage) on the first round. Saw some good gains.

Upped it to 400/ next time, etc etc. Massive increases aren’t required and is likely much safer.