Oakley's Diet and Training Log

[Oakley6575]

what kinda APR did you get on ur diet? wish i could eat like that

Dude, I'm blanking.. APR? All I can think of is Annual Percentage Rate. What is APR?

 

[Valdosta]

Dude, I'm blanking.. APR? All I can think of is Annual Percentage Rate. What is APR?

thats exactly what i mean id need a loan to get on ur meal plan

 

[Oakley6575]

thats exactly what i mean id need a loan to get on ur meal plan

You talking about the NY Strip? Yea that's the only thing that is expensive. Everything else is cheap cheap. I buy an entire loin from Sam's Club every couple weeks, and cut them into steaks. More work but much cheaper that way and I can control how thick my steaks are.

 

[Oakley6575]

Fasted Weight: 189.2lbs

Was really happy with progress pics this morning. I compared them to last weeks, and I was shocked. There really isn't much, if any, difference between the two. I've eaten a disgusting amount of carbs the past week and I'm just as full as I was eating a strict carnivore diet. I thought there would be a big difference in fullness, and there just isn't.

Weight was very stagnant all week. Yesterday was the first day I ate starches. I had 200g of carbs from white rice yesterday afternoon. All other sources have been fruit and sugar. Up a pound and a half this morning.

Tomorrow my family and I are going to San Diego for my sons 9th birthday. Will be back this weekend and I'll reassess my diet depending on how much I enjoy myself.

Haven't trained yet, but here is the plan:

Hams​	Sets​	Weight​	Set #1​	Set #2​	Set #3​	Set #4​	Set #5​
Lying Leg Curls​	5​	95lbs​	95lbs​	85lbs​	75lbs​	70lbs​	65lbs​
RDL​	3​	185lbs​	185lbs​	165lbs​	150lbs​	-​	-​

 

[Oakley6575]

I fell off the face of the earth. Stupidly, I let myself get out of my diet groove. I ate like a standard American for a good 6-8 weeks and obviously no good came of it. I trained as normal throughout the last couple of months but something came over me middle of last week. I had an urge to get back into eating properly and training with intent. Goal for right now is to get some fat off before pushing growth. It's sad looking at my June 9th update and seeing I was in a prime spot to rebound. I'll get back down close to that, and I'll grow like a weed.

I wrote myself a diet, and a new training program, and it has been going better than expected:

High Day
271P / 507C / 35F

Medium Day
272P / 303C / 71F

Low Day
274P / 154C / 90F

Training is a PPL split with the goal of training 6x per week. Going through the first PPL cycle, I needed a rest day before hitting push again because I wasn't recovered. I guess I need some time to get used to the increase in volume. It has been rewarding actually feeling substantially sore.

I'll get my wife to shave me and I'll get some updated pics in here.

 

[Wardamn]

I fell off the face of the earth. Stupidly, I let myself get out of my diet groove. I ate like a standard American for a good 6-8 weeks and obviously no good came of it. I trained as normal throughout the last couple of months but something came over me middle of last week. I had an urge to get back into eating properly and training with intent. Goal for right now is to get some fat off before pushing growth. It's sad looking at my June 9th update and seeing I was in a prime spot to rebound. I'll get back down close to that, and I'll grow like a weed.

I wrote myself a diet, and a new training program, and it has been going better than expected:

High Day
271P / 507C / 35F

Medium Day
272P / 303C / 71F

Low Day
274P / 154C / 90F

Training is a PPL split with the goal of training 6x per week. Going through the first PPL cycle, I needed a rest day before hitting push again because I wasn't recovered. I guess I need some time to get used to the increase in volume. It has been rewarding actually feeling substantially sore.

I'll get my wife to shave me and I'll get some updated pics in here.

Only been 2 months. Get back rolling!

 

[Omoplata]

I fell off the face of the earth. Stupidly, I let myself get out of my diet groove. I ate like a standard American for a good 6-8 weeks and obviously no good came of it. I trained as normal throughout the last couple of months but something came over me middle of last week. I had an urge to get back into eating properly and training with intent. Goal for right now is to get some fat off before pushing growth. It's sad looking at my June 9th update and seeing I was in a prime spot to rebound. I'll get back down close to that, and I'll grow like a weed.

I wrote myself a diet, and a new training program, and it has been going better than expected:

High Day
271P / 507C / 35F

Medium Day
272P / 303C / 71F

Low Day
274P / 154C / 90F

Training is a PPL split with the goal of training 6x per week. Going through the first PPL cycle, I needed a rest day before hitting push again because I wasn't recovered. I guess I need some time to get used to the increase in volume. It has been rewarding actually feeling substantially sore.

I'll get my wife to shave me and I'll get some updated pics in here.

It’s normal, balance is what you created. Kill it Oakley!

 

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

I fell off the face of the earth. Stupidly, I let myself get out of my diet groove. I ate like a standard American for a good 6-8 weeks and obviously no good came of it. I trained as normal throughout the last couple of months but something came over me middle of last week. I had an urge to get back into eating properly and training with intent. Goal for right now is to get some fat off before pushing growth. It's sad looking at my June 9th update and seeing I was in a prime spot to rebound. I'll get back down close to that, and I'll grow like a weed.

I wrote myself a diet, and a new training program, and it has been going better than expected:

High Day
271P / 507C / 35F

Medium Day
272P / 303C / 71F

Low Day
274P / 154C / 90F

Training is a PPL split with the goal of training 6x per week. Going through the first PPL cycle, I needed a rest day before hitting push again because I wasn't recovered. I guess I need some time to get used to the increase in volume. It has been rewarding actually feeling substantially sore.

I'll get my wife to shave me and I'll get some updated pics in here.

Why did you fall off?

Glad to see you back to posting

 

[Oakley6575]

Why did you fall off?

Glad to see you back to posting

Honestly, I'm not sure. Nothing really in particular that I can put my finger on. It was just easy to eat with the family, and I didn't really have a goal in mind. Dumb for me to get lean like that, and let it go to waste. Could have made substantial progress if I rebounded out of that state properly.

 

[Oakley6575]

Finally got around to taking some pics. Left is two months ago at 189.2lbs on a high fat diet, and right is today at 197.6 on a carb cycling diet. Only been on the carb cycling diet for just under two weeks but it has been going well. Dropped from 203.2lbs to todays low of 197.6lbs. You can see how dry I was on the high fat diet which I really like, but I'm much fuller with carbs in. I've only had one high day since I started the diet.

Plan is to get bloods done ASAP. Once they come back, if everything looks good, I'll step into an offseason phase.

 

[Oakley6575]

Fasted Weight: 196.8lbs

High day today (271P / 507C / 35F). I'll have a free meal with dessert tonight in place of one of my meals.

Got bloods done this morning. Sensitive E2 always takes a week which sucks, but I'll keep on this fat loss diet till then. Once I see how my bloodwork looks, I'll decide if going into a trt phase, or a blast, is the better choice. Let's pray for high gear and food!

 

[Oakley6575]

Fasted Weight: 197.0lbs

Weight is up 0.2lbs from last week but I'm clearly leaner in my lower back and abs. Win. Last high day was a week ago. I'm sitting on my thumb waiting for bloodwork to show up. I'm happy with where my body comp is, so if everything looks good, I'm ready to start eating.

 

[Oakley6575]

Alright, I don’t really do this, but I need to write this out for my own sanity and accountability. I need to fucking fix my mind.

I had a good weight drop before my bloodwork came back. Was down to 195 and ready to roll with the bulk. Made my diet changes by adding 100 carbs on the high day, 60 on my medium day, and 30 on my low day. So with that bump, and going to two high days a week, I figure I’ll be in a small surplus. Will run it and monitor body comp and what the scale does for the first couple weeks.

Started yesterday with a high day with the plan of replacing my last meal with a cheat. I’ve done this my entire bodybuilding journey. The problem is, I can’t be trusted with anything that’s not on plan. Like always, I went as hard as I could during my cheat. My stomach was the size of a beach ball.

This is a mental thing that I just can’t shake. I have a full blown eating disorder. If I ever want to actually get big, I need figure it out.

I did this my entire first bulk. And I did this when I worked with Justin. Justin was big on eating the free meal so I would stick to the plan the other 33 meals for the week. Well I get the idea, but what I would do, is eat until I was sick, and then have to force feed my meals the next day. That’s not productive and led to serious gut issues during my time with him. He was happy with my body comp at the end, and wanted to keep feeding me to grow, but I literally couldn’t eat clean food anymore. I was distended 24/7, sick to my stomach looking at my meals, and didn’t want to get off my ass to go train. I couldn’t do it anymore. Not Justin’s fault at all. I was a bad client by taking the “free meal” to an extreme that fucked both of us.

Back to yesterday… I went to bed feeling terrible. Woke up this morning feeling terrible. I was still distended this morning so I decided to skip meal 1 and 2. It’s pretty pathetic and funny to start DAY 1 of my bulk off the exact same way I fucked my last one up with… Makes no sense. Like I said, it’s a mental thing I need to get rid of.

I’m not sure what to do about it. Obviously I could just cut all free meals or anything off plan out. I’m a foodie, so that would really suck for me. I’m thinking of maybe eating my five meals and giving myself 1000 calories after meal five to have a dessert or something I’ve been wanting all week.. I’m not sure how to go about it because a “free” or “cheat” meal is a no go for me.

I’m sure a lot of you guys don’t understand the addiction thing. It’s not that hard to just have one cookie and be satisfied… But if you know, you know.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Hope you guys enjoyed my fat kid diary entry.

 

[GasmanX]

Alright, I don’t really do this, but I need to write this out for my own sanity and accountability. I need to fucking fix my mind.

I had a good weight drop before my bloodwork came back. Was down to 195 and ready to roll with the bulk. Made my diet changes by adding 100 carbs on the high day, 60 on my medium day, and 30 on my low day. So with that bump, and going to two high days a week, I figure I’ll be in a small surplus. Will run it and monitor body comp and what the scale does for the first couple weeks.

Started yesterday with a high day with the plan of replacing my last meal with a cheat. I’ve done this my entire bodybuilding journey. The problem is, I can’t be trusted with anything that’s not on plan. Like always, I went as hard as I could during my cheat. My stomach was the size of a beach ball.

This is a mental thing that I just can’t shake. I have a full blown eating disorder. If I ever want to actually get big, I need figure it out.

I did this my entire first bulk. And I did this when I worked with Justin. Justin was big on eating the free meal so I would stick to the plan the other 33 meals for the week. Well I get the idea, but what I would do, is eat until I was sick, and then have to force feed my meals the next day. That’s not productive and led to serious gut issues during my time with him. He was happy with my body comp at the end, and wanted to keep feeding me to grow, but I literally couldn’t eat clean food anymore. I was distended 24/7, sick to my stomach looking at my meals, and didn’t want to get off my ass to go train. I couldn’t do it anymore. Not Justin’s fault at all. I was a bad client by taking the “free meal” to an extreme that fucked both of us.

Back to yesterday… I went to bed feeling terrible. Woke up this morning feeling terrible. I was still distended this morning so I decided to skip meal 1 and 2. It’s pretty pathetic and funny to start DAY 1 of my bulk off the exact same way I fucked my last one up with… Makes no sense. Like I said, it’s a mental thing I need to get rid of.

I’m not sure what to do about it. Obviously I could just cut all free meals or anything off plan out. I’m a foodie, so that would really suck for me. I’m thinking of maybe eating my five meals and giving myself 1000 calories after meal five to have a dessert or something I’ve been wanting all week.. I’m not sure how to go about it because a “free” or “cheat” meal is a no go for me.

I’m sure a lot of you guys don’t understand the addiction thing. It’s not that hard to just have one cookie and be satisfied… But if you know, you know.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Hope you guys enjoyed my fat kid diary entry.

I don’t know bro. It does sound like you might need to drop the free meal unless you can make it something more structured/trackable.

I don’t like taking “free meals” because it can get out of control. I like my sweets so if I can have something, it’s usually something I can track like Reese’s big cups or ice cream. And if I’m out with my family and I get a small ice cream I can look at it and have a close approximation of what I consumed.

If I’m out with my family for a dinner I try to opt for the smallest portion possible. For example, there’s a local place that does burgers, fried chicken and fish sandwiches. I’ll go for a single patty burger and skip the fries. At least that way I’m still participating in the experience and limiting the excess calories.

I’m sure you have thought of this but this is my approach

 

[dcdogz]

I don’t know bro. It does sound like you might need to drop the free meal unless you can make it something more structured/trackable.

I don’t like taking “free meals” because it can get out of control. I like my sweets so if I can have something, it’s usually something I can track like Reese’s big cups or ice cream. And if I’m out with my family and I get a small ice cream I can look at it and have a close approximation of what I consumed.

If I’m out with my family for a dinner I try to opt for the smallest portion possible. For example, there’s a local place that does burgers, fried chicken and fish sandwiches. I’ll go for a single patty burger and skip the fries. At least that way I’m still participating in the experience and limiting the excess calories.

I’m sure you have thought of this but this is my approach

Yea id just break down what a "free" meal is.

100 carbs 10 fat 80 protein something like that.

Add it to my macros for the day and be done with it.

Maybe not even turn it into a meal, just spread the macros out across the day.

 

[Omoplata]

Alright, I don’t really do this, but I need to write this out for my own sanity and accountability. I need to fucking fix my mind.

I had a good weight drop before my bloodwork came back. Was down to 195 and ready to roll with the bulk. Made my diet changes by adding 100 carbs on the high day, 60 on my medium day, and 30 on my low day. So with that bump, and going to two high days a week, I figure I’ll be in a small surplus. Will run it and monitor body comp and what the scale does for the first couple weeks.

Started yesterday with a high day with the plan of replacing my last meal with a cheat. I’ve done this my entire bodybuilding journey. The problem is, I can’t be trusted with anything that’s not on plan. Like always, I went as hard as I could during my cheat. My stomach was the size of a beach ball.

This is a mental thing that I just can’t shake. I have a full blown eating disorder. If I ever want to actually get big, I need figure it out.

I did this my entire first bulk. And I did this when I worked with Justin. Justin was big on eating the free meal so I would stick to the plan the other 33 meals for the week. Well I get the idea, but what I would do, is eat until I was sick, and then have to force feed my meals the next day. That’s not productive and led to serious gut issues during my time with him. He was happy with my body comp at the end, and wanted to keep feeding me to grow, but I literally couldn’t eat clean food anymore. I was distended 24/7, sick to my stomach looking at my meals, and didn’t want to get off my ass to go train. I couldn’t do it anymore. Not Justin’s fault at all. I was a bad client by taking the “free meal” to an extreme that fucked both of us.

Back to yesterday… I went to bed feeling terrible. Woke up this morning feeling terrible. I was still distended this morning so I decided to skip meal 1 and 2. It’s pretty pathetic and funny to start DAY 1 of my bulk off the exact same way I fucked my last one up with… Makes no sense. Like I said, it’s a mental thing I need to get rid of.

I’m not sure what to do about it. Obviously I could just cut all free meals or anything off plan out. I’m a foodie, so that would really suck for me. I’m thinking of maybe eating my five meals and giving myself 1000 calories after meal five to have a dessert or something I’ve been wanting all week.. I’m not sure how to go about it because a “free” or “cheat” meal is a no go for me.

I’m sure a lot of you guys don’t understand the addiction thing. It’s not that hard to just have one cookie and be satisfied… But if you know, you know.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Hope you guys enjoyed my fat kid diary entry.

Are you having bowel movements as consistently as you gorge yourself?

 

[zwhit]

I struggle with the same. Always overdo my refeeds so I usually just keep pushing them out further than I think I need them and go lower on the days leading up because I already know what's going to happen when I start eating

Been going into a deep deficit before refeeding lately lol. That's in cut though, haven't truly been in a growth phase in a good minute so I probably won't do any free meals for a while once I go into it after this cut. Really want to keep the as much fat off in the growth phase if I get really lean.

 

[zwhit]

I struggle with the same. Always overdo my refeeds so I usually just keep pushing them out further than I think I need them and go lower on the days leading up because I already know what's going to happen when I start eating

Been going into a deep deficit before refeeding lately lol. That's in cut though, haven't truly been in a growth phase in a good minute so I probably won't do any free meals for a while once I go into it after this cut. Really want to keep the as much fat off in the growth phase if I get really lean.

 

[Oakley6575]

I don’t know bro. It does sound like you might need to drop the free meal unless you can make it something more structured/trackable.

I don’t like taking “free meals” because it can get out of control. I like my sweets so if I can have something, it’s usually something I can track like Reese’s big cups or ice cream. And if I’m out with my family and I get a small ice cream I can look at it and have a close approximation of what I consumed.

If I’m out with my family for a dinner I try to opt for the smallest portion possible. For example, there’s a local place that does burgers, fried chicken and fish sandwiches. I’ll go for a single patty burger and skip the fries. At least that way I’m still participating in the experience and limiting the excess calories.

I’m sure you have thought of this but this is my approach

This is exactly what I need to learn. Thanks for chiming in. Your body comp is outrageous wether you are eating in a surplus or deficit. You are someone I really look up to and need to adopt this mindset.

Yea id just break down what a "free" meal is.

100 carbs 10 fat 80 protein something like that.

Add it to my macros for the day and be done with it.

Maybe not even turn it into a meal, just spread the macros out across the day.

Good thought. Maybe I just find something I enjoy, and eat that every high day for consistency sake. Stack of pancakes, or the same burger and fries once a week, or something like that.

Are you having bowel movements as consistently as you gorge yourself?

Yea, typically every morning. I think the day after my gorge, I had one in the AM and one in the afternoon.

I struggle with the same. Always overdo my refeeds so I usually just keep pushing them out further than I think I need them and go lower on the days leading up because I already know what's going to happen when I start eating

Been going into a deep deficit before refeeding lately lol. That's in cut though, haven't truly been in a growth phase in a good minute so I probably won't do any free meals for a while once I go into it after this cut. Really want to keep the as much fat off in the growth phase if I get really lean.

Yea it's really not that big of a deal in a deficit. Obviously eating until I'm sick is not good in any scenario, but in a deficit, it seems like the high amount of food does good things for your metabolism. In a surplus, it really fucks me up. It's annoying that I can eat 800g of carbs on a high day in a bulking scenario, and STILL eating like an asshole when "bad" food is put in front of me. There is no scenario where I can't clean the cheesecake off my plate. Doesn't matter how full I am.

 

[Valdosta]

Is it still possible to eat a lot of clean food while on a glp? that might crush your cravings to binge eat. I'm trying one in a month or so. but then you'll have to try harder to get ur normal meals in.

lookin massive tho

 

[dcdogz]

Is it still possible to eat a lot of clean food while on a glp? that might crush your cravings to binge eat. I'm trying one in a month or so. but then you'll have to try harder to get ur normal meals in.

lookin massive tho

Yea but it takes time to build up tolerance.
I'm not sure what's the limit however. Overeating on a glp is extremely uncomfortable.

 

[Bigjape34]

A couple things but I agree. Above get with coach and figure out what it should consist of in the past I’ve been told like extra 150g sushi or 76g fatty steak 2 cups frozen yogurt etc let coach make the call on the other hand and this isn’t a knock at you refeed or cheat doesn’t necessarily mean go out and eat shitty food at a restaurant or that it needs to be unhealthy you can stay at home and make yourself some healthier more cost efficient macro fitting cheat foods. I feel like everything things cheat or refeed and is like oh pizza ice cream loaded burgers etc when in reality 90 percent of the time it’s not the case. Not saying this is what your doing but you need a baseline and some self control for sure in my opinion

 

[GasmanX]

This is exactly what I need to learn. Thanks for chiming in. Your body comp is outrageous wether you are eating in a surplus or deficit. You are someone I really look up to and need to adopt this mindset.

I appreciate that brother. Always happy to help where I can

 

[Meetketchup]

Offering my 2 cents as a coach who has used both methods for years.

There is no physical benefit to a cheat meal (if anything it is a hindrance to your goals), but some guys need it for mental reasons sticking to a diet.

Refeeds are physically and mentaly beneficial. You stick to a structured plan while getting more food and filling out.

The above is for MOST people. There are a few outliers that can cheat meal and it just doesn't matter. I've been following you for a while now and although you have good genetics, I wouldn't put you in that category.

If I had to guess the ratio of cheat meals to refeeds, I use for guys/girls? Probably 80% Refeed and 20% Cheat Meal.

Lastly you DONT have to carb cycle consistently. You can a static diet and throwing a combo of low and high day when you want. Gut distention and being uncomfortable is counterproductive to what we want in the end. Justin is great and respect the fuck out of him. one of the best coaches, but he's on the extreme end of things, which is fine for SOME. Not everyone. It sounds like you are more of a calculated refeed guy and used when necessary. That's what I would do with you.

My 2 cents lol

 

[Oakley6575]

Weight was back down to 195.8lbs this morning. So I went from 195.4lbs to 199.9lbs, and then back down to 195.8lbs the next day. So fucking unhealthy.

I'm going to have low days today and tomorrow, clean out, and then Monday I'll start the bulk with a high day.. Round 2. We'll see if I can find a way for me to get the mental bernefit of eating foods that I like and think about all the time, without it hindering progress.

Is it still possible to eat a lot of clean food while on a glp? that might crush your cravings to binge eat. I'm trying one in a month or so. but then you'll have to try harder to get ur normal meals in.

lookin massive tho

The only GLP I've used is reta. For me, it does help with cravings, but it doesn't prevent me from eating. I can still eat on it. It sounds like ozempic and tirz have more of an appetite killing effect and slows gastric emptying more. But idk.

A couple things but I agree. Above get with coach and figure out what it should consist of in the past I’ve been told like extra 150g sushi or 76g fatty steak 2 cups frozen yogurt etc let coach make the call on the other hand and this isn’t a knock at you refeed or cheat doesn’t necessarily mean go out and eat shitty food at a restaurant or that it needs to be unhealthy you can stay at home and make yourself some healthier more cost efficient macro fitting cheat foods. I feel like everything things cheat or refeed and is like oh pizza ice cream loaded burgers etc when in reality 90 percent of the time it’s not the case. Not saying this is what your doing but you need a baseline and some self control for sure in my opinion

Self control is what the fuck I need. I don't know why I can't just have one cookie, or a taste of something I want and be satisfied.. Thanks for your input man!

Offering my 2 cents as a coach who has used both methods for years.

There is no physical benefit to a cheat meal (if anything it is a hindrance to your goals), but some guys need it for mental reasons sticking to a diet.

Refeeds are physically and mentaly beneficial. You stick to a structured plan while getting more food and filling out.

The above is for MOST people. There are a few outliers that can cheat meal and it just doesn't matter. I've been following you for a while now and although you have good genetics, I wouldn't put you in that category.

If I had to guess the ratio of cheat meals to refeeds, I use for guys/girls? Probably 80% Refeed and 20% Cheat Meal.

Lastly you DONT have to carb cycle consistently. You can a static diet and throwing a combo of low and high day when you want. Gut distention and being uncomfortable is counterproductive to what we want in the end. Justin is great and respect the fuck out of him. one of the best coaches, but he's on the extreme end of things, which is fine for SOME. Not everyone. It sounds like you are more of a calculated refeed guy and used when necessary. That's what I would do with you.

My 2 cents lol

Hey bud! Hope you've been well. Love your input here. As always you are dead on. I don't use the cheat meal for anything more than eating something (or in my case, everything) that I've wanted over the week. Especially for me, it has ZERO benefit to growing or getting to a goal. It's just a mental deload. I just can't control it.

I only carb cycle in the offseason because I like the diet changing every day or every other day. I'm not a fan of constantly eating the same meal over an over. I would have never had the gut distention or uncomfortability if it wasn't for my cheat meals. They wrecked that entire offseaon, especially in the rebound phase.

So from what you said, I should just cut all cheat meals, which I agree with. I just don't know how I will do long term with that. This is so fucking ridiculous, but I need some cheesecake or panda in my life.

 

[Oakley6575]

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[Oakley6575]

Man, I am having some crazy issues with this site. Anyone else?

 

[cdubw44]

Man, I am having some crazy issues with this site. Anyone else?

Why yes yes I am. Thanks for the steak hack

 

[Meetketchup]

So from what you said, I should just cut all cheat meals, which I agree with. I just don't know how I will do long term with that. This is so fucking ridiculous, but I need some cheesecake or panda in my life.

East fix. PLAN your weeks with refeeds, but when you get that big crazy urge to have a cheat or special occasion you do it. Even if it’s 3 refeeds for every 1 cheat you are ahead of the game. That’s just how I would program it. Gotta be flexible.