Extreme pip from test 400

[Astro95]

I’m using Deca 500, not bad. Leaves a painful lump almost everytime.

 

[powertime]

I’m using Deca 500, not bad. Leaves a painful lump almost everytime.

I usually message the lump out with me knuckles a few times a day. It usually goes down fairly quick when I do that.

 

[Fletcher]

Yeah it’s been about 24 hours and it’s not as bad for sure…. I like the idea of cutting it… not sure what I want to add. I’m still relatively new to the world of gear and have just been on TRT the last several years..

I ha e this conversation a lot. There are guys, like me, who run high mg test enanthate and its super smooth no pip, other guys cant pin a 1/2ml of enanthate at any dose without pip. Everyone id different. Cypionate ester typically gives me pip, but most guys use it exlusively with no issues.
With the T400 blend, you have 4 esters in it.
It could be any one of them that doesnt agree with you. The most common pip-ester for guys is proprionate.

If you wanna cut it, I personally use masteron to cut anything else Im pinning.

Esp with my pwo oils, they are usually higher solvent and have pip for everyone.

So I will do a 50/50 mix with masteron enanthate. (Masteron has all types of great benefits and its never given me pip, ever, regardless of dose or brand or carrier oil).

How much of the T400 are you pinning per injection?

 

[IronNurse]

I ha e this conversation a lot. There are guys, like me, who run high mg test enanthate and its super smooth no pip, other guys cant pin a 1/2ml of enanthate at any dose without pip. Everyone id different. Cypionate ester typically gives me pip, but most guys use it exlusively with no issues.
With the T400 blend, you have 4 esters in it.
It could be any one of them that doesnt agree with you. The most common pip-ester for guys is proprionate.

If you wanna cut it, I personally use masteron to cut anything else Im pinning.

Esp with my pwo oils, they are usually higher solvent and have pip for everyone.

So I will do a 50/50 mix with masteron enanthate. (Masteron has all types of great benefits and its never given me pip, ever, regardless of dose or brand or carrier oil).

How much of the T400 are you pinning per injection?

So I did half a ML this first injection just to see what it was like… I know for sure I used a needle that was too short. I’ve been on test C for TRT at 300 split twice a week for a year now.. that’s the lowest dose I’ve found that actually resolves my symptoms… so I was wanting to do a fairly heavy blast but hadn’t thought of adding anything into it. I like the idea of adding mast though.

 

[Fletcher]

So I did half a ML this first injection just to see what it was like… I know for sure I used a needle that was too short. I’ve been on test C for TRT at 300 split twice a week for a year now.. that’s the lowest dose I’ve found that actually resolves my symptoms… so I was wanting to do a fairly heavy blast but hadn’t thought of adding anything into it. I like the idea of adding mast though.

As a general rule, any oil that causes pip for you, is gonna cause it to a higher degree if you are sub-q or close to the surface.
Where do you typically inject?

 

[IronNurse]

As a general rule, any oil that causes pip for you, is gonna cause it to a higher degree if you are sub-q or close to the surface.
Where do you typically inject?

Ahh yeah I can see that, never had trouble with Cyp unless I went to shallow or went Sub Q for a while… delts and VG alternating mostly.

 

[Vision]

Ahh yeah I can see that, never had trouble with Cyp unless I went to shallow or went Sub Q for a while… delts and VG alternating mostly.

Cyp is 98% more user friendly than any other test ester.. There's a good reason why a lot of people use it. Now if it was dosed at 250 it would most likely be slightly uncomfortable but not nearly as bad as testE... However it's very hard to stabilize above 200.
Cyp is simply just beautiful.. just about every brand and every lab is almost smooth and perfect for me. Give me TestE, no matter the lab or pharmaceutical, forget about it, More than 80% of the injections will probably be tender

 

[IronNurse]

Cyp is 98% more user friendly than any other test ester.. There's a good reason why a lot of people use it. Now if it was dosed at 250 it would most likely be slightly uncomfortable but not nearly as bad as testE... However it's very hard to stabilize above 200.
Cyp is simply just beautiful.. just about every brand and every lab is almost smooth and perfect for me. Give me TestE, no matter the lab or pharmaceutical, forget about it, More than 80% of the injections will probably be tender

Good to know!

 

[Bpark365]

I have plenty experience running test cyp and tren a, never experienced a terrible pip from either. I just started running test 400, and the pip is so awful I can barely walk on the leg where I pinned in the quad. Switched the shoulder for the second pin yesterday. Pain is really high but not as bad as in my quad. Anyone else experience this with test 400? Mine is particularly a blend of 200 cyp and 200 e.

well...yeah dude, it's 400mg/ml and every single lab that offers these concentrations warns you that you will 100% experience PIP with it

 

[rawbuilt]

why not just use test 250 or 200

no pip at all unless the brand your using has EO in the oil

 

[AR-15]

Heat and mix with another compound. Only hit glutes and don’t shoot over 1ML at 400mg.
I’ve been using tested test 400 for the past year or so and very rarely get pip. If I do it’s very minimal and almost always my fault.