Extreme pip from test 400

[Chevyt666]

I have plenty experience running test cyp and tren a, never experienced a terrible pip from either. I just started running test 400, and the pip is so awful I can barely walk on the leg where I pinned in the quad. Switched the shoulder for the second pin yesterday. Pain is really high but not as bad as in my quad. Anyone else experience this with test 400? Mine is particularly a blend of 200 cyp and 200 e.

 

[Wardamn]

That's not unusual for high concentration oils.

 

[zionoir626]

Lots of factors..
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[Bigtoe]

Lots of factors..
A good chef is worth their weight in Gold..
Z...

This 100%

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[Fletcher]

I have plenty experience running test cyp and tren a, never experienced a terrible pip from either. I just started running test 400, and the pip is so awful I can barely walk on the leg where I pinned in the quad. Switched the shoulder for the second pin yesterday. Pain is really high but not as bad as in my quad. Anyone else experience this with test 400? Mine is particularly a blend of 200 cyp and 200 e.

Shoulders and thighs are a bad place to put high mg gear too brother.
Upper/outer ass cheek and go deep into muscle. If you are too close to the surface, or sub-q... its gonna hurt.

 

[zionoir626]

This 100%

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Btoe..What's up Brother..
Heard any from Unlisted..??
How have you been..??
Z...

 

[badgerz94]

When I used Test 400, I was walking around like Frankenstein's monster after a trip to Brokeback Mountain.

 

[Wiseguy]

Very high concentration.even after 3 decades of cycling sus 250 still kicks my butt.I can’t imagine the pip on 400ml

 

[CompoundLifts31]

If it doesn't hurt, it probably doesn't have 400mgs/mL

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[Bigtoe]

Btoe..What's up Brother..
Heard any from Unlisted..??
How have you been..??
Z...

Doing good bro. Been traveling and in and out of the country lately.

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[Boykinben82]

I have plenty experience running test cyp and tren a, never experienced a terrible pip from either. I just started running test 400, and the pip is so awful I can barely walk on the leg where I pinned in the quad. Switched the shoulder for the second pin yesterday. Pain is really high but not as bad as in my quad. Anyone else experience this with test 400? Mine is particularly a blend of 200 cyp and 200 e.

Try pinning more frequently so it’s smaller amounts of oil at a time. It helps with higher concentration test, which usually has a bite to it.

 

[mackaveli23]

oh yeah. Just shot some 400 blend not far enough into my muscle and suffered the consequences. I stashed it away for later use when i grow the balls

 

[NoodleArms]

I've had zero pip (glutes/delts) running T400 (King). Allergy to the oil maybe?

 

[mackaveli23]

I've had zero pip (glutes/delts) running T400 (Ace). Allergy to the oil maybe?

I could NEVER shoot more than 1/2ml of T400 into my delts lol

 

[mass gain]

Agree with all OP. The lucky ones are the ones who don't get bad PIP with high concentration gear. The majority will get PIP with test over 300 mg/ml.

 

[mass gain]

Very high concentration.even after 3 decades of cycling sus 250 still kicks my butt.I can’t imagine the pip on 400ml

The Aspen Sustanon have a little bit of a bite. The old amps and redijects did not unless of course you used the 18g harpoon that came with them.
UGL Sustanon at 250 mg/ml has always treated me decent as long as its not in EO.

 

[Bigtoe]

The Aspen Sustanon have a little bit of a bite. The old amps and redijects did not unless of course you used the 18g harpoon that came with them.
UGL Sustanon at 250 mg/ml has always treated me decent as long as its not in EO.

Have you tried EP's Sustanon 500? I was worried but have had 0 pip splitting 500 2x a week. I was a little scared the first pin but was worried for nothing.

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[mass gain]

Have you tried EP's Sustanon 500? I was worried but have had 0 pip splitting 500 2x a week. I was a little scared the first pin but was worried for nothing.

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I have not but several years ago I did use their Sustanon 250 and it gave me PIP. They ran out of their regular carrier oil and used EO which I can tolerate but it takes at least 4 days for the redness and lump to go away.

 

[Bigtoe]

I have not but several years ago I did use their Sustanon 250 and it gave me PIP. They ran out of their regular carrier oil and used EO which I can tolerate but it takes at least 4 days for the redness and lump to go away.

Some old Olympus shit messed me up like that years ago. Glad they disappeared

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[Vision]

I have plenty experience running test cyp and tren a, never experienced a terrible pip from either. I just started running test 400, and the pip is so awful I can barely walk on the leg where I pinned in the quad. Switched the shoulder for the second pin yesterday. Pain is really high but not as bad as in my quad. Anyone else experience this with test 400? Mine is particularly a blend of 200 cyp and 200 e.

High dosed compounds has always been problematic, even going back to the days when pharmaceutical compounds were a thing, and the pharmaceutical compounds that were compounded for veterinarian use t400 was absolutely crippling.
Same old GMP STANDARDS, Just veterinarian grade.
Some guys can tolerate it some guys can.

High dosed gear or blends should never be used in smaller muscle bellies.

Glutes, but most especially VGs are the best spots.. VGs all day IMO

 

[Matt88]

Ventral glutes are by far my favorite injection site for anything that could have some pip. For me it can take something with pip and make it pip free with a 1.5 inch 25g

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Try pinning more frequently so it’s smaller amounts of oil at a time. It helps with higher concentration test, which usually has a bite to it.

No, cut that shit like cocaine.

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[CompoundLifts31]

Have you tried EP's Sustanon 500? I was worried but have had 0 pip splitting 500 2x a week. I was a little scared the first pin but was worried for nothing.

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I'm surprised to hear that. Their stuff is pretty accurately dosed. Their test / Eq blend was pretty smooth though for being 400mgs total.

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[Vision]

I'm surprised to hear that. Their stuff is pretty accurately dosed. Their test / Eq blend was pretty smooth though for being 400mgs total.

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Man, these blends are hit or miss, some guys do well some guys don't.
The sust 500 really packed a punch, but I was able to work with it but eventually I tapped out. But the guy I gave it to absolutely loved it with no complaints. There's something wrong with him, no matter what blend I gave him he's never had a problem.
Like you said some of the blends are just smooth.

I have the test/EQ... Was looking forward to that, now this is good to know that this one smooth.

 

[Vision]

I have plenty experience running test cyp and tren a, never experienced a terrible pip from either. I just started running test 400, and the pip is so awful I can barely walk on the leg where I pinned in the quad. Switched the shoulder for the second pin yesterday. Pain is really high but not as bad as in my quad. Anyone else experience this with test 400? Mine is particularly a blend of 200 cyp and 200 e.

Just checking in to see how you been making out?

 

[IronNurse]

I just pinned T400 from Auctus I. The VG. went in smooth then couple hours later felt like I got hit by a baseball bat… used a 1” needle thinking I should use a 2” for the VG… this has 50 of prop and I’ve read that can make PIP worse… I’ve never used it on its own.

 

[Halfi]

Not that uncommon.. the higher the conectration the more it’s ganna hurt.

 

[powertime]

I just pinned T400 from Auctus I. The VG. went in smooth then couple hours later felt like I got hit by a baseball bat… used a 1” needle thinking I should use a 2” for the VG… this has 50 of prop and I’ve read that can make PIP worse… I’ve never used it on its own.

I’ve been using the T400 for a few weeks. Slight PIP from it but for me it goes away in about a day. I do cut it with half Parabolan.

 

[IronNurse]

I’ve been using the T400 for a few weeks. Slight PIP from it but for me it goes away in about a day. I do cut it with half Parabolan.

Yeah it’s been about 24 hours and it’s not as bad for sure…. I like the idea of cutting it… not sure what I want to add. I’m still relatively new to the world of gear and have just been on TRT the last several years..

 

[powertime]

Yeah it’s been about 24 hours and it’s not as bad for sure…. I like the idea of cutting it… not sure what I want to add. I’m still relatively new to the world of gear and have just been on TRT the last several years..

Reach out to @Fletcher and he can give you some good ideas on what to add.