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[Meetketchup]

Do you use ketotifen alongside the clen?

Clen split early AM and early PM then take Ketotifen 1mg pre bed.

 

[Swilly91]

Clen split early AM and early PM then take Ketotifen 1mg pre bed.

Thank you sir!

 

[foodovergear]

Maybe think of running clen consistently starting at 20mcg or 40mcg and increase over time. The 2 weeks on 2 off was done way back in the day and doesn't make sense as the half-life is 36 hours and you don't desensitize from fat burning over time, just the shaking and slight protein increasing uptake. You can also run 1mg of ketotifen to uptake receptors which does work.

thank you! i was about to go 2-3 days - 20mcg, up 2-3 days to 30mg, then after 1-2 days up to 40mcg. so i can stay longer and just after the second week mark start ketotifen 1mg pre-bed?
should i start ketotifen right with the clen or at the end of week 2?

 

[Meetketchup]

You wait about 10 days to start the ketotifen.

Regarding when to increase the dosage: The best way is to get the most out of each minimal dose and increase when needed. You don't need a ton of clen and DON'T rely on sides like shaking to tell if it's working.

 

[Oakley6575]

Clen split early AM and early PM then take Ketotifen 1mg pre bed.

You literally just explained that the half life is 36 hours so it doesn't make sense to come off for two weeks. Next post you say to split the dose morning and early pm... Makes zero sense.

Just take your full dose in the mornings. Zero need to split the dose.

 

[foodovergear]

i wanna ask aswell, yesterday had refeed day, 450g carbs total.
today im the whole day dizzy ,light-headed, cold, low energy, like a dead…
i drinked 3-4liters water already, takin multivitamins, l-taurine, l-carnitine, electrolytes, salt 6g today. (yesterday was like 10-11)
normally i have to feel full recharged with lots of energy after a refeed, why like that?

 

[foodovergear]

Small update: Final 3 weeks to 8,5-9% with the same plan:

//DIET//
week1:
diet:
cooked white rice - 442g (556kcal) (or sweet potatoes depends)
cooked chicken breast - 330g (545kcal)
broccoli - 200g (68kcal)
dry oats - 62g( 230kcal)
skir (zero fat) - 300g (190kcal)
blueberries - 100g (57kcal)
1 dose protein whey - 36g scoop, 24g protein (136kcal)
omega 3 (high in epa & dha) - 2g (20kcal)
peanut butter - 13g scoop (80kcal)
(1900 kcal)

week2:
cooked white rice - 252g sweet potatoes, 100g cooked white rice, 200g cucumbers (456kcal)
cooked chicken breast - 330g (545kcal)
broccoli - 200g (68kcal)
dry oats - 62g( 230kcal)
skir (zero fat) - 300g (190kcal)
blueberries - 100g (57kcal)
1 dose protein whey - 36g scoop, 24g protein (136kcal)
omega 3 (high in epa & dha) - 2g (20kcal)
peanut butter - 13g scoop (80kcal)
(1800kcal)

week3:
cooked white rice - 165g sweet potatoes,
100g cooked white rice, 800g cucumbers (390kcal)
cooked chicken breast - 330g (545kcal)
broccoli - 200g (68kcal)
6
dry oats - 62g( 230kcal)
skir (zero fat) - 300g (190kcal)
blueberries - 100g (57kcal)
1 dose protein whey - 36g scoop, 24g protein (136kcal)
omega 3 (high in epa & dha) - 2g (20kcal)
peanut butter - 13g scoop (80kcal)
(1700kcal)

week 1-3: start clen at 20mcg (up by 10mcg every 3 days, till i hit the dosage i feel most tolerable sides/positives and stay there. ketotifen 1mg pre/bed after day10.
yohimbin 5mg/day pre-fasted cardio +black coffee

week 1-3: start adrol 25/50mg

week4: (8,5-9% - 7,5-8%) (peak week)

cooked white rice - 165g sweet potatoes,
100g cooked white rice, 200g cucumbers (356kcal)
cooked chicken breast - 330g (545kcal)
broccoli - 200g (68kcal)
dry oats - 62g( 230kcal)
skir (zero fat) - 300g (190kcal)
blueberries - 100g (57kcal)
1 dose protein whey - 36g scoop, 24g protein (136kcal)
omega 3 (high in epa & dha) - 2g (20kcal)
peanut butter - 13g scoop (80kcal)
(1700kcal) everything the same, and removed 200g broccoli
(1640kcal)
(+ 2 refeed days 200g rice split through the weeks, so + 250 carbs each day (total 500)
im free for advices, i do this that far for a first time and im open for everything, i may do something wrong, so all the help is welcome. thanks!

 

[foodovergear]

update**
i was feeling like crap, due to diet fatigue, hunger, cortisol.. stimulant bonus sides…
i dropped clen, wont use for now.
went back for a big refeed.
1st day i ate 5k-5,5k kcals clean food, second day around 4k, yesterday around 3,5k, today im on 2,4k kcals for 4-5 more days, then i go back to 1900-2000kcal/day.
i felt alive again, can sleep better, but these tren night sweats with overload fo carbs.. man ..
anyway, im 3kg up (glyco and water, maybe 02-0,4lbs fat, but that will go easy soon as i low the kcals again. my hunger was uncontrollable these days, my stomatch was about to explode, acid reflux and i cant breathe bcs of full stomatch, cant actually stand from the coach.
i was so pumped, veiny and hard on the otherside.. my heat is coming back, i dont feel that cold anymore, feeling in a good mood and have better energy levels.
so i went to the point that its better to take a step back, so u can make few steps ahead.
just my thoughts that this gonna get me to singe digits than starve and fuck my health.
i noticed i was on lay low kcals bcs of the tren burning properties, also clen thrown in.. so now ill go on sligther deficit and see how it goes, but before that - 4 days on 2400kcal with 4x200 kcal stairmaster per week, depends on feeling, scale and mirror ill see how ill change the things after. i started yohimbine 5mg morning fasted cardio since today, so it may help aswell.
also since i lowered my test to 140 and upped my tren to 200, no sides beside night sweats. my sleep is even better without benadryl, teas, melatoins etc.. i take just my msgnesium glycinat before bed and everyrhing is fine. i wake up 2-3 times, but i fall asleep, have 4-5 good hours and the. wake up and i think its more bcs i need to piss than the tren.
gonna post update next week to see how things going.

 

[foodovergear]

here are some pics from the last days, rhey vary.
the 1st one is before refeed.
some are morning, some at night, the weight is changing, as the hardness and bload every day. at day 3 at night i was very hard, also one of the photos u can see my stomatch gonna explode still abs anyway.

 

[foodovergear]

UPDATE
today was the 1st day from the 2nd week since i went back from diet break for 1 week, i was on 1750kcal/day, so around 700-900kcal deficit (i really cant say how much is my metabolism adapted already and other factors, but in this zone.)
im fairly leaner than before the diet break, but im more kg than before, so i gained some muscle for sure.
today is day one since i decided to start a keto, (25h since last carbs, and i was already very depleted bcs of tne previous week).
I Felt like ive been hit by a truck the whole day, added more electrolytes, went to 5,5/6l water instead of 7, ate only chicken meat, egg whites liquid and a scoop of whey.
MAAN… im on 1120kcal total today, i could go with 1000, but i decided to eat a bit pre-bed to help with the sleep. before 1 hour i my head went sharp again, i had brainfog, lightheadness, tiredness, headaches, everything… and i refreshed in one moment.
i dont starve that much for food, i dropped the intense in the gym, the weights reduced to 60-70% than 100, 1 set less on each exercise and take a rest as much as i feel to go back and do controlled reps, and did 15 instead of 7-8 normally, so i dont make a trauma.
The hell.. im on tren, winny.. i wont loose muscle for 1-2 weeks on this, i eat also 3,15g protein/kg… thats why tren is so unique, right?
with my calculations, i must drop 1,3-1,5kg fat per week, and bcs im on a low dose reta, tren, winny, trt dose test and some mast, hogh protein, i hope i wont loose any muscle… lets see if this keto diet gonna be effective to hit subq 10,4% subq in the next 7days.
btw these pictures are after 3th day on 1750kcal. (didnt make the day i started, so wed-monday)
ill post photos again after 1 week on this keto and hope i keep 1100kcals daily
edit: i started the winny today at 50mg.

 

[foodovergear]

update:
last wed - this thuesd

 

[foodovergear]

8 may - 15 may (today)

 

[foodovergear]

update: i think i hit subq10%, just holded some water since yesterday bcs i burned on the solarium and my body is inflamated, doing keto today that strict for a last, then i switch
2 days 200 carbs, 3 keto, 2 days 200 carbs and repeat, because i feel i need more performance and energy to hit 2 training sessions per day and cardio 2 times and stay productive, + tren in the stack gonna use this carbs for a good, so at the end i hope it gonna provide better results, also dont like how flat and skinny i look on this % + the keto and 1400-1500 kcal daily, so some carbs for sure gonna have added benefit. hope i dont hold water bcs of the lots of cardio, just stay dry, harder and more pumped.
the last black pic with the leg veins is where i hold water. last week ive been 70,8 total dry weight, this week i went to 69,8, but now scale fluctuates between 70,8-71,2, i also upped my spinach from 200 to 400g and it seems to affect the things, so ill drop to 150 when i add the carbs, they gonna be only white rice everyday. (the white picture is the progress i made from the past weeks)

 

[foodovergear]

update; hit the last week at the end during keto 69,8kg total bodyweight, depleted, dry.
this week i had 2 refeeds, been fluctuating around 71,4-70,4 for the last 2-3 days, but i started seeing more veins so im leaner for sure, been on keto for 5 days instead of 7 like the prev week.
it was strange exp, not from the best, bcs i think for keto u need a way longer time to adapt and in our community where u train hard and need strength.. there isnt much. also u look flat, not explosive, for sure more dry, but i feel like i started loosing muscle even on 3,1-3,2g protein/kg per day, also tren, winny, mast included…
since today (monday) i started csrb cycling back, 300 carbs for today, 300 tomorrow, then was thinking back to keto for 3 days and 2 refeeds again, but too much sugar crashes and with tren in the mix i dont think its good idea.
so this week i keep 3 high days at 300, (2000kcal daily), 3 low days 55g carbs, 1 high day 300 again.
i doubled my cardio and training sessions, so its split with the food and train like that:
1. back, cardio 30m, later chest, cardio 30m
2. shoulders, cardio 30m, arms, cardio 30m
3. cardio 1h morning, later legs, or the same like previous just split back and front side.
4. low days 1h cardio, (1350kcal)
5. low day 1h cardio (1350kcal)
6. low days back, 30m cardio, chest, 30m cardio
7. high day shoulders, 30m cardio, arms, 30m cardio
1550kcals weekly basis.

after this week ill start like that:
mond: low
2. low
3,4,5,6,7 - high (300 carb)
and start doing only one muscle group per day, keeping cardio 1h ed. (1868kcal daily through the week)

week 2: same as the previous, just adding 60g rice on the low days (1924kcals per day weekly basis)

week 3: same as week 2, + 60g rice more on lows (1981kcal daily weekly bs)

week 4: high days i up from 300 to 320carbs,
, low days ill go from 150 to 100 carbs and add some more fats, so my kcals stay 2100-2200 everyday, and try to maintenance and check if weight still going down or up.
until this time i hope i hit 8-9% in the next 3 weeks, even on slightly less deficit, but filled with carbs so i can look insane.