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Multislacking · Mar 10, 2023

That was an awesome post and I loved every bit of it. All of it, seriously. Great stuff. But I had to comment on the section above. I hit that point and struggled for a while with what to do and how to "proceed" for lack of a better term. I even considered going back to college and taking seminary courses. Even to the point I was looking into my employer paying for college classes. And that was with ZERO intent on taking a job in the ministry. Not that I would have turned one down if it presented itself...I'm sure I would have taken that as a sign. Just I wasn't looking to change careers by a long shot.

I can't say that I had a sudden great epiphany, but it was more of a constant recurring thought. "His grace is sufficient for you." Every time I reached some hurdle or outright road block, it kept coming back. It took a long time for it to sink in. I'd almost worked my way into some mental learning legalism I can't explain, but it sounds like what you are describing. I guess what I'm saying is I no longer felt the need to "know all the answers". We can no more learn all the answers than we could live a sinless life. Only God has all the answers. Another reason we are supposed to trust and have faith. It was hard for me to take myself out of the decision making process for my spiritual journey. As everyone likes to say, "all of us make up the body of Christ." But some of us are definitely just toes...and I'm ok with that.

heavyiron · Mar 12, 2023

This question is for everyone. Believers or unbelievers welcomed.

If you could ask God any question what would it be?

01dragonslayer · Mar 12, 2023

That is such a deep deep question.....one that is so hard. I gotta think about this one.

Multislacking · Mar 12, 2023

That's a tough one. I'm guessing this is more of a purely knowledge type of thing? Not a "can You take me now?".

j2048b · Mar 12, 2023

What did i ever do to you, that would make u put in me in a family/situation & poor, and not looked at like someone who deserved as much as everyone else….

Its these questions that Leeds people, when looking at every rich person in the world, to get a hardened heart and turn away a lot of times… because we are supposed to rely on his strengths, and believe in his promises, but the shit we have had to go thru in our lives sometimes makes us start to believe that maybe God isnt as loving as he makes himself out to be….

I mean i believe the whole reasoning why he had to send Jesus is because God was a “do as i say, now or u will die” type of God, and if he continued he would have seen we truly did not deserve his grace, patience etc….

I have a lot of angrier questions for God but, this is one that sits with me…

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Milford King · Mar 14, 2023

Well. I admit I’m way behind the learning curve than pretty much everyone who regularly posts in this thread … and this might sound like me trying to be funny… and I’m not trying to be insensitive but I would ask God if I can take my dog with me to the afterlife. And if not, why not?

He’s a good boy and has a pure soul. I would enjoy heaven that much more if my wife, my kids and I could keep our dog.

E.J.D · Mar 14, 2023

Why? Why as creator of all things, knower of all, has everything in the universe but still craves a personal relationship with his human creation? What's missing in heaven that only humans can fullfil in God's eyes.

j2048b · Mar 15, 2023

Thats a very good question…

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01dragonslayer · Mar 15, 2023

This is the best I could come up with.......'God, if you really exist and are the ultimate creator, then where did you come from and who created you?'

Truckertrash · Mar 15, 2023

Just one? Lol...That's tough...I would like to know why it's necessary for small children to suffer from diseases like cancer..Seems like something like that should be for adults only

tatertot · Mar 16, 2023

Why did you give your Son to die on a cross for a wretched sinner like me?

tatertot · Mar 20, 2023

Romans 8:38-39
38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

01dragonslayer · Mar 20, 2023

This is awesome!!!!!!!!

so1970 · Saturday at 8:06 AM

I'm pretty simple my only question is how come we gotta have mosquitoes

Necron_99 · Saturday at 9:06 AM

hey, what's the deal with the celestial alignment that occurred in September of 2017? I read an article last week (can't find it now) that was talking about it matching up with Revelations 12.

"A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head."

Apparently, the constellation Virgo had the sun on her shoulder and the moon at her feet during that celestial event.

Anyway, this was supposed to start a clock of 1 thousand 2 hundred and 3 score (1260) days in accordance with Rev 12:6, followed by another 1277 days before Satan was to return to earth. I wish I could fine the article because I'm not sure where this additional 1277 figure comes from. This means it will happen in September of 2024. Apparently, we're supposed to be visited by what appears to be a comet that will be visible for two weeks prior to it's arrival.

Anyone else know anything about this?

heavyiron · Saturday at 9:46 AM

It was a hot topic in 2017 but pretty sure its a nothing burger. I do believe we are close to the Tribulation but not for that reason.

The Tribulation is a 7 year period broken up into two parts hence the 3.5 years/1260 days for each part. They had 360 day years back when Daniel was written.

j2048b · 2023-03-26T01:15:24-0700

U sure about the 360 days per yr back then?

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heavyiron · 2023-03-26T08:23:35-0700

To be honest I'm not dogmatic on the topic. Depending on the area some used a lunar calendar and some used a solar calendar but yes, BC the Jews used a 360 day calendar. There are some caveats though like adding days every so many years. Many end time guys will use multiple calendars though.

Here's a discussion you may want to check out.

A 360-Day Administrative Year in Ancient Israel: Judahite Portable Calendars and the Flood Account | Harvard Theological Review | Cambridge Core

A 360-Day Administrative Year in Ancient Israel: Judahite Portable Calendars and the Flood Account - Volume 114 Issue 4

www.cambridge.org

heavyiron · 2023-03-26T18:09:08-0700

A Song of Ascents. Of David.

122

I was glad when they said to me,
“Let us go into the house of the Lord.”
2 Our feet have been standing
Within your gates, O Jerusalem!
3 Jerusalem is built
As a city that is compact together,
4 Where the tribes go up,
The tribes of the Lord,
[a]To the Testimony of Israel,
To give thanks to the name of the Lord.
5 For thrones are set there for judgment,
The thrones of the house of David.
6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
“May they prosper who love you.
7 Peace be within your walls,
Prosperity within your palaces.”
8 For the sake of my brethren and companions,
I will now say, “Peace be within you.”
9 Because of the house of the Lord our God
I will seek your good.

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Psalm 122:4 Or As a testimony to

tatertot · 2023-03-27T08:34:41-0700

There's a few different ways to interpret this, along with all of Revelation. I lean toward the Preterist/Partial-Preterist view which means most (or all?) of Revelation took place in early AD. Most Christians now days are Futurists/Dispensational/Premillenial. So they would view Revelation as a future event to take place. Since you'll hear that view wherever you ask, i'll share a brief Preterist view of Rev 12.

The woman is Mary/Israel giving birth to Christ. The dragon is Satan. The sea beast is Rome. The heads and horns symbolize the line of Roman Emperors who began to act as Satan’s proxy in persecuting the Church in the time of Nero. This sixth king who “is” (Revelation 13:10) at the time of John’s writing is Nero, who also began the war against Judea in AD 66 that resulted eventually in the destruction of the Temple after Nero’s death in AD 70. “1260 days” in v. 6 and Revelation 11:3. (“42 months” of Revelation 11:2) is the arrival of the Roman army in AD66 and the seige of Jureselum in 70AD. This is the judgement of God on Israel for crucifying Christ and yet the preserving of Christians who would have fled the city because they listened to Christ in (Matt 24:16 + Mark 13:14). Common practice would have been to stay IN the city for protection, not flee.

With that said, Revelation is complicated and controversial. The overarching theme is that God is sovereign and even when we Christians are in deep pain, He is always with us. Suffering and pain and persecution is not meaningless. Christ will return someday, but we do not know when (and should NOT try to predict when). He will put an end to sin and death, the dwelling place of man will be with God. He will wipe every tear from our eye and mourning or crying or pain will be no more. O death where is your sting?

Some links below if you care to study this perspective.

Dr Greg Bahnsen - Apologia Studios
Dr Kenneth Gentry
G.B. Caird 'The Revelation of St John'

https://www.forerunner.com/blog/revelation-12-in-preterist-perspective

https://www.revelationrevolution.org/revelation-12-a-preterist-commentary/

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Jesus Christ is the Way, Truth, and Life

Romans 8:38-39
38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:38-39

38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

A Song of Ascents. Of David.

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