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Anavar or Winstrol

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MillerTimeTTTF said:
Do you prefer one over the other?
Reasons or 2 completely different purposes?

Thanks
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I’ve used winni several times during my cutting cycles. Always liked it besides it making my joints ache sometimes . This time (just start about 2 weeks ago) I decided to use var instead and I’m loving it so far. The pumps are INSANE !!!
 
Hmmm interesting. I like var but if you have low bodyfat and you want to show that super lean cut/dry look winny is far more superior. Some complain about joint pains, but I never experienced that. FYI I never run it over 50mg per day, so maybe thats the reason.
 
Hello guys, if you want to add winny only for the look, less water and fat loss (I don't know if it really does anything for this) what would be the minimum dose you would take? whenever i use winny at 50mg i notice it a lot in the joints
 
About to run a 400mg test + Winny/Var cycle. Was thinking of doing 12 weeks total, first 6 on Winny and then finish the last 6 with Var. I know a lot of people just split dose and mix, is that a better option rather than running 6 weeks of one & other ?
 
Way better..
Last 4 weeks..25mgs of each..
People rave about it..
Big Rich loves it..
Z...
 
Just started Var. So far not impressed. Loved winny.
 
Aside from Winny during last few weeks of prep, I don't touch it. Var is less toxic, doesn't dry out your joints and gives smooth strength increases when dosed/timed appropriately.
 
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Meetketchup said:
Aside from Winny during last few weeks of prep, I don't touch it. Var is less toxic, doesn't dry out your joints and gives smooth strength increases when dosed/timed appropriately.
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Would you mind elaborating on dosing/timing?
 
Really really not a fan of winstrol. It wrecks my body like nothing else. I get hair falling out, my joints kill me, I cramp up (and yea I’ve supplemented with taurine and potassium, magnesium, ect…) I’ve just come to understand Winny and me don’t get along lol. However, that’s just my experience. Some guys love it as a finisher and some get insane strength increases with it.

Have to go with Anavar here 😁
 
J-Willy said:
Would you mind elaborating on dosing/timing?
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For which compound? I’m assuming you’re asking him about Winstrol but I’m not sure.

On the chance of you asking about Anavar I read a study where they studied Caffeine/coffee and the administration of Anavar. Anavar was absorbed 300% more when taken with coffee. I may be off by the percentage but I want to say it was 3X the regular absorption rate. That’s insane!! I can’t explain why this is the case but it was a real study and I’m sure someone/anyone could find it if they wanted.

Essentially take Anavar with some coffee to
Maximum it’s effects 😁😎
 
TheOldJJdigs said:
For which compound? I’m assuming you’re asking him about Winstrol but I’m not sure.

On the chance of you asking about Anavar I read a study where they studied Caffeine/coffee and the administration of Anavar. Anavar was absorbed 300% more when taken with coffee. I may be off by the percentage but I want to say it was 3X the regular absorption rate. That’s insane!! I can’t explain why this is the case but it was a real study and I’m sure someone/anyone could find it if they wanted.

Essentially take Anavar with some coffee to
Maximum it’s effects
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That is new to me , good to know because I only drink coffee once in the AM but “when I do Var or win orals , I split dose them. I have done both in a combo tablet WinVar 50. I prefer them for different reasons . Var helps me build muscle and strength over a longer period and Winstrol (oral/inject) gives me mega energy and I’m able to spare muscle when I’m on almost no carbs.

Max
 
TheOldJJdigs said:
Essentially take Anavar with some coffee to
Maximum it’s effects 😁😎
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That is phenomenal!

I take my larger Var dose in the morning, with 200mg caffeine, start lifting half hour later.
Second dose is about 7hrs later, so I may consider some caffeine then as well. Maybe some tea?

Thanks for sharing that, I’ll try to find the study…

Is there any reason to think winstrol would/would not be affected the same way?
 
dezzy84 said:
Tell me about the timing dose protocol.
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I sublingually take Var 15 minutes pre workout and as soon as dissolved under the tongue I drink a high caffeinated PW drink for max absorption. You get a peak spike of the drug for roughly 1-2 hours as a result. This protocol works the same with Winny.
 
Meetketchup said:
I sublingually take Var 15 minutes pre workout and as soon as dissolved under the tongue I drink a high caffeinated PW drink for max absorption. You get a peak spike of the drug for roughly 1-2 hours as a result. This protocol works the same with Winny.
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Maybe you're on to something. That's why I noticed an instant effect from winny when I was using the liquid sublingual.
 
dezzy84 said:
Maybe you're on to something. That's why I noticed an instant effect from winny when I was using the liquid sublingual.
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A few years ago I went down the rabbit hole on sublingual drug dosing and efficacy. There were only a few studies on Anadrol and Anadrol, but they showed a huge spike in the blood stream vs placebo and the duration of the splike which was between 1-2 hours. In theory you're getting all the benefits of peak levels for when you it it the most (workout/shortly after), while limiting the impact on the liver due to short exposure time and dissolving into the blood stream via under the tongue,

My bloods have been much better using this method and you get a huge bump during workouts. Just my opinion. :)
 
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Meetketchup said:
A few years ago I went down the rabbit hole on sublingual drug dosing and efficacy. There were only a few studies on Anadrol and Anadrol, but they showed a huge spike in the blood stream vs placebo and the duration of the splike which was between 1-2 hours. In theory you're getting all the benefits of peak levels for when you it it the most (workout/shortly after), while limiting the impact on the liver due to short exposure time and dissolving into the blood stream via under the tongue,

My bloods have been much better using this method and you get a huge bump during workouts. Just my opinion. :)
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How long do you have to hold it under your tongue?
 
J-Willy said:
https://www.adop.pt/media/4114/Oxandrolone_excretion_effect_of_caffeine_dosing_.pdf

“We postulate that caffeine increases bioavailability of oxandrolone, probably by increasing gut emptying. Practically this means that similar concentrations/effects may be achieved using lower doses.”
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Thanks for posting that… I was doing 5 different things that day and I actually meant to go find it at end of the day but didn’t.

So I’m not sure about the tea thing…. I could have sworn I read an article talking about the study and they mentioned drinking Coca Cola ?because it had caffeine and they said it was based off coffee. Now I could be wrong about that… I’ll read the study when I have a minute to myself. Right now I’m chancing around kids and trying to get them
Out the door lol

JJ
 
TheOldJJdigs said:
Thanks for posting that…

So I’m not sure about the tea thing….

JJ
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I appreciate you bringing it up. I never would have thought to look for that study.
Getting the kids sorted is definitely more important!

I didn’t see anything in that study that mentioned the form of caffeine, but it is interesting that it could have an impact…
 
I've got a little Var in my stash..
If I use it..it will be with a good cup of Joe..
Thanks JJ..
Love you...Brother..
Z...
 
MillerTimeTTTF said:
Do you prefer one over the other?
Reasons or 2 completely different purposes?

Thanks
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Anavar is effective and pretty healthy, winstrol (imo) is joint-killing, weak, and useless. Plenty of other compounds can give you the positive aspects of winny without the negative.
 

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