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gravityshackels

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About to start 500 mg test C per/wk and 20-30 mg dbol per/day. I wanted to make sure I get the AI right this time. I got bunk stuff last cycle so that's why I have stuck to PSL 👏 I'm just a little nervous now cause that feeling sucked. I have on deck 20mg Aromsian EP.
 
Everyone is different, but 12.5 mg eod worked very well for me on 600mg cyp per week.
 
See how you feel with 12.5 E4d...if you need more go to W3D...you don't want to crush your E2..

Do you plan on getting bloods?
 
I do plan on getting bloods upon return from business trip. Should I use pill splitter for 20mg EP aromsain? That seems like it is gonna be very hard 🤔
 
When I ran 500mg E per week and 40mg Dbol ED I needed 25mg Aromasin or. 5 Adex ED to keep in range. Everybody is very different brother. Start low and get bloods to see how it's working.
 
Thanks brothers! If I were to keep it at 30mg. Dose time? 10mg - am 10mg pre workout (gym/lunch usually when I hit the gym) 10mg- 5 pm or later? Last cycle I ran all 30 mg pre and had to bail because of AI.
 
Man I'm sensitive to estrogen as in I convert test to it easily. I'm on 750mg test per week and 25mg of aromasin per day. But like I said I'm sensitive, though I know plenty of others that are. If you want to do half (10mg) eod or even everyday that may end up becoming an option you like. In the end picking an option and then getting blood work will ultimately give you the more precise answer.


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Aromasin needs to be dosed daily. It has. A short half life.
Arimidex is eod or e3d do to the long half life.

I do ultimately agree with this statement. That being said, splitting half and doing 10mg a day would be a good starting point.


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Aromasin needs to be dosed daily. It has. A short half life.
Arimidex is eod or e3d do to the long half life.

I do ultimately agree with this statement. That being said, splitting half and doing 10mg a day would be a good starting point.


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Sorry fellows, but the suggestion that you both stated about needing aromasin ED to control estro is not entirely accurate..Just because it has a half-life of 8-12 hrs doesn't mean it needs to be administered daily.. Aromasin is known as an extreme suicide aromatase inhibitor for great reason..

There's plenty of clinical studies to support that aromasin acts relativity fast and enters the bloodstream fairly quick, deploying it's abilities aggressively, so aggressively that up to 80-90% of aromatase enzymes or destroyed at the same time having a pronounced effect with considerable diminution in E1/E2 levels for up to 48-78+ hrs..

It's not a weak AI and can actually crush estro levels relativity fast, yielding lethargy, lack of sex drive,appetite suppression, and so on, all simply after a single dose of 25mgs lasting up to 78 hrs in some individuals..

Below is an example pic/diagram of "aromasin" displaying estro levels well under baseline for almost 78hrs...At the 78hr mark, it's close to 25% reduction compared to baseline, but slowly climbing...At about 150hrs you'll return to almost norm..So, you see, with it's expressive properties the "roller coaster ride" proves to be nil as there's no rebound.. Be careful with this compound, it's not weak and can wreak havok creating an imbalance within the system..The idea is to treat and manage, no obliterate and annihilate, because there will be consequences..The therapeutic treat in some case and study is far different to what we're attempting in this lifestyle, however the expression of aromasin remains the same!

In the first pic you begin to see that levels "CONTINUE" to drop long after it's "claimed half-life"..
m_eg1230065002.jpeg


In the next pic you can see that it takes up to 120 hrs to reach baseline levels.

m_eg1230065003.jpeg



Not to toot on my horn I won't make a suggestion if I can't support it , now can anyone support their method and reasoning behind that suggested administration other than "do this, or I do that,or usually its this"..Show us why? SPECIFICS!
(SO THERE FOR STOP SUGGESTING THE DAILY DOSE WITH THE ONLY SUPPORT OTHER THAN "IT NEEDS TO BE" PLEASE PROVIDE DATA AND NOT SOME REGURGITATED NONSENSE)


There's a reason behind it as "pharmacodydynamics" recognizes its effects and machanism course of actions has been evaluated and documented; Plasma estrogen (estradiol, estrone, and estrone sulfate) suppression was seen starting at a 5-mg daily dose of exemestane, with a maximum suppression of at least 85%,andto 95% achieved at a 25-mg dose.

Exemestane 25 mg daily reduced whole body aromatization (as measured by injecting radiolabeled androstenedione) by 98%..

After a single dose of exemestane 25 mg, the maximal suppression of circulating estrogens occurred 2 to 3 days after dosing and persisted for 4 to 5 days.

So you see here, taking it daily or even twice daily not only shows some sort of bro-science regurgitation that's been spouting on some panel somewhere, it also has no value, and absolutely no benefit or advantage...Just because a particular medicine has a said half-life, that doesn't always mean we should time our dosages accordingly on the said half-life, because there's specific mechanism of actions taking place in cellular groups that may have a continued expression and influence..Far as pharmacology sees it, there is NO medical suggestions of administration needing to be taken once or twice a daily, SOME medical recommendations/prescriptions may suggest 1 daily dose, depending on the situation and diagnosis with treating early and advanced breast cancer in women who have gone through menopause, as these are extreme detrimental conditions, which hardly fit the protocol and principals/reasons here..

My intention is NOT to sound bold here, but rather bring clarification..;)
 
Sorry fellows, but the suggestion that you both stated about needing aromasin ED to control estro is not entirely accurate..Just because it has a half-life of 8-12 hrs doesn't mean it needs to be administered daily.. Aromasin is known as an extreme suicide aromatase inhibitor for great reason..

There's plenty of clinical studies to support that aromasin acts relativity fast and enters the bloodstream fairly quick, deploying it's abilities aggressively, so aggressively that up to 80-90% of aromatase enzymes or destroyed at the same time having a pronounced effect with considerable diminution in E1/E2 levels for up to 48-78+ hrs..

It's not a weak AI and can actually crush estro levels relativity fast, yielding lethargy, lack of sex drive,appetite suppression, and so on, all simply after a single dose of 25mgs lasting up to 78 hrs in some individuals..

Below is an example pic/diagram of "aromasin" displaying estro levels well under baseline for almost 78hrs...At the 78hr mark, it's close to 25% reduction compared to baseline, but slowly climbing...At about 150hrs you'll return to almost norm..So, you see, with it's expressive properties the "roller coaster ride" proves to be nil as there's no rebound.. Be careful with this compound, it's not weak and can wreak havok creating an imbalance within the system..The idea is to treat and manage, no obliterate and annihilate, because there will be consequences..The therapeutic treat in some case and study is far different to what we're attempting in this lifestyle, however the expression of aromasin remains the same!

In the first pic you begin to see that levels "CONTINUE" to drop long after it's "claimed half-life"..
m_eg1230065002.jpeg


In the next pic you can see that it takes up to 120 hrs to reach baseline levels.

m_eg1230065003.jpeg



Not to toot on my horn I won't make a suggestion if I can't support it , now can anyone support their method and reasoning behind that suggested administration other than "do this, or I do that,or usually its this"..Show us why? SPECIFICS!
(SO THERE FOR STOP SUGGESTING THE DAILY DOSE WITH THE ONLY SUPPORT OTHER THAN "IT NEEDS TO BE" PLEASE PROVIDE DATA AND NOT SOME REGURGITATED NONSENSE)


There's a reason behind it as "pharmacodydynamics" recognizes its effects and machanism course of actions has been evaluated and documented; Plasma estrogen (estradiol, estrone, and estrone sulfate) suppression was seen starting at a 5-mg daily dose of exemestane, with a maximum suppression of at least 85%,andto 95% achieved at a 25-mg dose.

Exemestane 25 mg daily reduced whole body aromatization (as measured by injecting radiolabeled androstenedione) by 98%..

After a single dose of exemestane 25 mg, the maximal suppression of circulating estrogens occurred 2 to 3 days after dosing and persisted for 4 to 5 days.

So you see here, taking it daily or even twice daily not only shows some sort of bro-science regurgitation that's been spouting on some panel somewhere, it also has no value, and absolutely no benefit or advantage...Just because a particular medicine has a said half-life, that doesn't always mean we should time our dosages accordingly on the said half-life, because there's specific mechanism of actions taking place in cellular groups that may have a continued expression and influence..Far as pharmacology sees it, there is NO medical suggestions of administration needing to be taken once or twice a daily, SOME medical recommendations/prescriptions may suggest 1 daily dose, depending on the situation and diagnosis with treating early and advanced breast cancer in women who have gone through menopause, as these are extreme detrimental conditions, which hardly fit the protocol and principals/reasons here..

My intention is NOT to sound bold here, but rather bring clarification..;)

You bold basterd ;)

OP:
This is much more backed then anything I can say. I may be considered an exception bc I take about 1mg of good adex ed on the 750mg dose I'm on. But, I'm not experienced with aromasin enough to know how to work it. I'm just using my max dose to cover an issue that I know I have intensely. I also know some physical signs of low e2 so that to watch for them. Ultimately blood work in several weeks will tell me how I truly need to correct my dosing or if it's perfect for me where it's at. Hope that sheds light


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You bold basterd ;)

OP:
This is much more backed then anything I can say. I may be considered an exception bc I take about 1mg of good adex ed on the 750mg dose I'm on. But, I'm not experienced with aromasin enough to know how to work it. I'm just using my max dose to cover an issue that I know I have intensely. I also know some physical signs of low e2 so that to watch for them. Ultimately blood work in several weeks will tell me how I truly need to correct my dosing or if it's perfect for me where it's at. Hope that sheds light


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You hit the nail right on the head.... Or it's perfect for YOU!

Everyone is different and everyone will respond differently and if you feel that it targets your specific needs, then roll with it..Bloods will truly vary from one to the next!

By the way, we need to finish that talk about the end of spring, wink wink!
 
You hit the nail right on the head.... Or it's perfect for YOU!

Everyone is different and everyone will respond differently and if you feel that it targets your specific needs, then roll with it..Bloods will truly vary from one to the next!

By the way, we need to finish that talk about the end of spring, wink wink!

Sounds good!


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I do ultimately agree with this statement. That being said, splitting half and doing 10mg a day would be a good starting point.


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Its actually argued but i agree taking aromasin split into 2 doses daily 12.5. X2.
 
males were administered 25mg of Aromasin daily, maximal estradiol suppression of 62% +/- 14% was observed at 12 hours. The reason for the difference may be related to the much higher testosterone concentrations in young males than in postmenopausal women and the shorter half-life of exemestane in males. The terminal half-life in males (8.9 h) was considerably shorter than the published value of 27 h in females. This may be a basis for more frequent administration in men (or women administering testosterone) that want maximal E2 supression.

During a typical steroid cycle, estrogen can rise quite high and quite fast. Often times 5-6 times higher than what is considered normal in some men using steroids.
Water retention, gyno(formation of breast tissue)negative
Effect on libido. HBP. (juat to name a few) I personally dont want or look forward to any of these side effects. Estrogen must be kept in check.it must be managed.
Even after 50mg daily , estrogen wasnt crushed.
This doesnt mean it can't and it wont happen to you but only bloodwork can tell for sure. Everyone is different . so please get bloodwork and share your own personal findings and what works best for you.

Another note i wanted to mention was
Aromasin not only lowers circulating estrogen and sex hormone binding globulin but it also increases free testosterone by a whopping 117%! Total testosterone increases about 60%. Just something to smile about !
 
I do plan on getting bloods upon return from business trip. Should I use pill splitter for 20mg EP aromsain? That seems like it is gonna be very hard 樂
I bought this pill splitter and I've used it to cut the small round Aromasin pills in half without a problem. This splitter works pretty good and I don't doubt that you could probably cut them into quarters if you really felt the need....


https://www.amazon.com/SplitEase-SE...8&qid=1482330641&sr=1-25&keywords=pill+cutter
 

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