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250mg Test + 250mg Deca VS. 500mg Test

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***Hypothetical***


Most people would recommend 500mg of test for a first cycle and most can make great gains for years using just that for each cycle.


BUT


If someone was to propose a cycle of 250mg test and 250mg of deca which equals the same overall mg's of anabolic compounds.....(typically) they would be told that the cycle is inferior or too low dosed to make any real gains.


We know deca is slightly more anabolic than test, so would 250mg test and 250mg deca not be superior to just 500mg of test alone?




Hoping someone might have some literature on this or at least an experienced opinion.
 
If this person was not worried about PCT...I would say go for it. If PCT was an issue, I personally would never use Deca. With that said, I don't worry about PCT and run 400-500mg of Test and 200-250mg of Deca year round.
 
If this person was not worried about PCT...I would say go for it. If PCT was an issue, I personally would never use Deca. With that said, I don't worry about PCT and run 400-500mg of Test and 200-250mg of Deca year round.

What ai and dose to you run on that year round?
 
Of course it would yield better gains. But as said previously, unless you blast and cruise I would stay away from deca.
 
If this person was not worried about PCT...I would say go for it. If PCT was an issue, I personally would never use Deca. With that said, I don't worry about PCT and run 400-500mg of Test and 200-250mg of Deca year round.

What ai and dose to you run on that year round?

good question. i'd like to know since this is literally my next cycle.
 
Damn what makes Deca so bad that you cannot PCT? what is different about it?

Thanks
 
Damn what makes Deca so bad that you cannot PCT? what is different about it?

Thanks

You need to stop the deca 2-4wks before the test because the long ester and longer lasting htpa supression.
 
Im about to start 250mg 2x a week test c and 100 eod NPP. Can't wait


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You need to stop the deca 2-4wks before the test because the long ester and longer lasting htpa supression.

Thanks, also why do people like this so much, I hear Guys at the gym talking about Deca all the time lol.
 
Thanks, also why do people like this so much, I hear Guys at the gym talking about Deca all the time lol.
The most well known roid hands down. Those guys probably don't know m7ch about it beyond the name though....

To the op

Keep reading about it and it becomes obvious why it's so popular. But it will fuck you hard if you fuck around.

I'm a cruiser so I'll be blasting the deca 12 weeks at a time, mostly for lubricity.

I say if you know what you're getting into and you're fully prepared hit it up only you will know how it affects you when you try it.

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I'm running test c and Deca now. Getting bloods done soon. Will the Deca have any change in the testosterone blood results. After blood. Work jumping test up to 600 a week and leaving the deca at 300 a week.
 
I really like low dose cycles and I do very well off low doses. Less estrogen sides and just a better cycle all around
 
I'm running test c and Deca now. Getting bloods done soon. Will the Deca have any change in the testosterone blood results. After blood. Work jumping test up to 600 a week and leaving the deca at 300 a week.

Deca will not effect bloodwork in regards to Test. It can somewhat effect E2 and can raise your prolactin. Also...keep an eye on Hematocrit.
 
Damn what makes Deca so bad that you cannot PCT? what is different about it?

Thanks

You can PCT but Deca will shut you down hardcore. I know some folks who didn't get full production of natural test back after cycle. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't use it if I had to PCT. That's my personal choice.
 
I feel with high doses of test, well from experiemce I have lots of issues with conversion, bloat, just ain't pretty. I like to keep test low same with deca. Deca is known as a bulking drug and people usually get lots of bloat and such from it and prolactin issues with higher doses. Deca can actually be successfully used to recomp at lower doses such as 250-300 and not get all the sides that people associate with it just clean gains with little sides. I believe 250 test and 250 deca will yield better more quality gains than 500mg test alone.
 
My last run with deca pct went fine, recovered just fine. Used Nolvadex Clomid and ran gw501516
 
Hmm, tough one, the old timers in my gym a few are ifbb pros would take 200mgs test and 200mgs deca back in the 70s for 10 weeks twice a year and these guys are monsters, still use very little gear. 250mgs of quality test will put most peoples test levels close to 2000ng/dl, that right there is enough to grow like a weed if one can eat and train, and then 250mgs of deca, although its def on the low end its definitely still enough to see some good gains, assuming its not underdosed. Personally I think the results would be very similar. [ think id go with the 500mgs of test, that put almost 30lbs on me and i kept 25 of it. love a little bit of deca for the joints though, like 100mgs ew
 
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Fuck yea I'm all about low doses. I pct 2x each year and use deca often. Just make sure to use your test 2-3 weeks longer then deca and you shouldn't have issues. Deca for me atrophies my balls bad but doesn't kill sex drive or anything like that. Low dose of 250mg ew you should be fine.
 
Is prolactin levels what causes the limp dick side effect? And what can be used along side with deca to ensure this doesn't become a problem??? Caber?


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I have never used caber while on deca. I just run a-dex or low dose of letro and never have issues. I also pump my hcg up to 3x week at 250iu each injection. Works for me.
 
​Thanks for the replies. Just for the record I blast and cruise and have plenty of aas experience. This question is out of pure curiosity to see if stacking multiple low dose compounds would be as effective as running one compound at the same total mg.
 
Yeah, for us old timers,deca is gold...............never had one issue with it.but I hear the horror stories and realize how lucky a few of us really are..........
 

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