WTF is it with locking threads?

[Johnm15923]

Oh and one more thing, Vision has been around for as long as I can remember and I've never seen someone who can say so many words without actually saying anything of substance. Then having the audacity to say people dont deserve a response when they are concerned about a bad test and didn't just assume the same lab that lied about a test result was telling the truth. Not a good look and sounds a lot like some other reps no longer here.

The response should be "we understand your outrage and we ourselves are outraged if this turns out to be true after an investigation. Please give us time to work through this and we will keep you updated along the way"

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Guys this thread is an exact and precise example of why threads get locked.

Look how long this is continuing. We're at 6 pages and you got guys agreeing but also guys fighting and creating enemies with each other within this thread.

That is never a good thing...we are a family and we already are on a testosterone fueled emotional forum. We don't need more reasons to fight or hold onto grudges..men don't hold grudges. We punch each other, shake hands and move on.

This thread too might get locked. Do we really wanna argue and bicker in circles for months about this? Then the thread gets bumped in a year and it starts back up?

You all know what I'm saying is accurate.

Let's solve the initial problem that caused the locked thread whether it be the sponsor and member come to a resolution. But it must be resolved.

It may have been resolved for all I know. Has it? Does anyone know? I don't even know who and what brand we're disputing w each other at this point.

 

[Johnm15923]

Can you answer the question why was that locked but the other 2 weren't? Even after H&B had come to a resolution? I know how smart you are Wes and the optics dont look great. Now if you say every post moving forward will get locked regardless of the source then I could accept that but this pick and choose doesn't look great.

 

[S00Meaty]

That is never a good thing...we are a family and we already are on a testosterone fueled emotional forum. We don't need more reasons to fight or hold onto grudges..men don't hold grudges. We punch each other, shake hands and move on.

Agree.

There is one dude, man, we've had quite the back and forth.

We had a beef, punched each other, shook hands and moved on.

Later on, he stabbed me in the back. I stabbed him in the eye.
We shook hands and moved on.

Fast forward, he stabbed me in the back again. I shot him in his sac.

We shook hands and moved on. I think we are good now finally.

Lets hope.

 

[Vision]

Can you answer the question why was that locked but the other 2 weren't? Even after H&B had come to a resolution? I know how smart you are Wes and the optics dont look great. Now if you say every post moving forward will get locked regardless of the source then I could accept that but this pick and choose doesn't look great.

The thread will be unlocked, we are extremely close with coming to a resolve soon as we get there it will be unlocked, the OP will address things and from there, people can post whatever they want dating back long as they want.
Right now the main concern is the OP.
He is first and foremost and priority.

We are speaking regularly with him privately, and him and I have been in contact literally every day and at times multiple times a day.

The thread will be unlocked permanently moving forward soon as we get the resolve taken care of and the original party is satisfied.

 

[WED]

The thread will be unlocked, we are extremely close with coming to a resolve soon as we get there it will be unlocked, the OP will address things and from there, people can post whatever they want dating back long as they want.
Right now the main concern is the OP.
He is first and foremost and priority.

We are speaking regularly with him privately, and him and I have been in contact literally every day and at times multiple times a day.

The thread will be unlocked permanently moving forward soon as we get the resolve taken care of and the original party is satisfied.

Looking forward to this and especially what the OP has to address outside the fact that he got Test Prop when he bought Primo. He really doesn't seem like he needs to address anything.

Why are we blaming the customer here? Did he submit a fake sample?

 

[DadBod45]

Let's solve the initial problem that caused the locked thread whether it be the sponsor and member come to a resolution. But it must be resolved.

It may have been resolved for all I know. Has it? Does anyone know? I don't even know who and what brand we're disputing w each other at this point.

The only way this gets resolved is if PSL explains to everyone why this guys Primo tested to be straight test prop.

Most of the members here spend their hard earned money with these sources and while I get we are all taking a chance and recognize that we are, don’t we all deserve a some sort of explanation?!

@Vision has talked like he ate a can of alphabet soup and shit out comments for days and pretty much told most of us that we aren’t owed anything.

Being open, up front and honest goes a long fucking way. “We fucked up” is way more respectable than talking in circles.

And before anyone says it, because they will yes, I’ve only been on this site for 8 months but that doesn’t make my ability to read and pay attention any less…..

 

[Vision]

Looking forward to this and especially what the OP has to address outside the fact that he got Test Prop when he bought Primo. He really doesn't seem like he needs to address anything.

Why are we blaming the customer here? Did he submit a fake sample?

Now I do believe I can speak on behalf of everyone when I say that we are all looking forward to what the original poster has to say.

The original poster has stress to me that he will chime in on how it was handled.
Whether people think he needs to or not, that's not up to them to make the decision, this is his situation, and he will handle it as he sees fit.

For the last statement, Not entirely sure how to address that because that was never mentioned, nor was that something that was brought up.

 

[WED]

The only way this gets resolved is if PSL explains to everyone why this guys Primo tested to be straight test prop.

Most of the members here spend their hard earned money with these sources and while I get we are all taking a chance and recognize that we are, don’t we all deserve a some sort of explanation?!

@Vision has talked like he ate a can of alphabet soup and shit out comments for days and pretty much told most of us that we aren’t owed anything.

Being open, up front and honest goes a long fucking way. “We fucked up” is way more respectable than talking in circles.

And before anyone says it, because they will yes, I’ve only been on this site for 8 months but that doesn’t make my ability to read and pay attention any less…..

The other Sponsors with bad tests seem to quickly take product off their website, issue extensive refunds and mass emails, and post some notifications on their sponsor forums. Maybe that is coming, but we're def getting a lot of word salad.

 

[WED]

Now I do believe I can speak on behalf of everyone when I say that we are all looking forward to what the original poster has to say.

The original poster has stress to me that he will chime in on how it was handled.
Whether people think he needs to or not, that's not up to them to make the decision, this is his situation, and he will handle it as he sees fit.

For the last statement, Not entirely sure how to address that because that was never mentioned, nor was that something that was brought up.

If the OP has to address something it implies he has explaining to do. There is something nefarious going on.

He bought your Primo, sent it to Janko, came back 100% Test Prop, posted here after you two DM'd and you know he was testing.

If he has something to explain, it means he's lied. IDK how there is any other way to read that

 

[Vision]

Nowhere did I say that the entire masses and the entire community does not deserve an answer or a response, the twisting of the words with verbal judo that people are using is nothing but smoking mirrors, I've emphasized "certain people" I will not acknowledge, nor do I have to nor my obligated to.
Historically I have always treated all individuals and this community very very good, Please find anywhere that I have mistreated any members, or incited, antagonized or provoked people for what would appear to be entertainment.

Treat people as if you would like to be treated the same.

People can't expect professionalism if they don't display it themselves.
With words disappearing and being replaced with others coming up with their own interpretations, those are the ones I will not entertain.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Can you answer the question why was that locked but the other 2 weren't? Even after H&B had come to a resolution? I know how smart you are Wes and the optics dont look great. Now if you say every post moving forward will get locked regardless of the source then I could accept that but this pick and choose doesn't look great.

I cannot because I didn't lock it. I have no clue who was involved in this, which thread or admin but if they locked it then they would be the ones to handle it sir.

i am not saying we lock all threads. But if people keep fighting and bickering in a thread and its going in endless useless circles, its detrimental to the forum.

Its not like these are threads of knowledge that gain new studies, or knowledge over time and are great to update. This is people simply arguing. Repeatedly.

 

[Jack 1]

I’m curious is to why all these threads seem to be getting locked all of a sudden as soon as someone doesn’t like the direction it’s going? I have no idea who that someone is nor do I care. What I care about it transparency.

No offense to any of the hierarchy here because I honestly get along and respect most of you here but I gotta admit it kinda seems like every time there’s an uncomfortable subject come up with certain people or sources they either get locked or deleted. WTF?

I know better than anyone about the importance of not posting certain info. Obviously that’s a no no and should be deleted asap but it seems like now It’s almost taboo to talk about certain sources when they may or may not be having a legit issue.

Every source is having RAW issues. It’s no secret. As a consumer who knows how shit works behind the scenes I’m ok with that. I want to know how the source handles it. That’s kinda shit goes a long way with me. I don’t want to hear it from reps and members who are sucking the sources dick thinking they are going to get something great for being snuggled up with a scumbag. As long as there’s no info being shared openly then what’s the harm?

Watch this thread will get either locked or shit canned. Wanna bet? All I gotta do is mention a source that no one here likes. Lol

You make a fair point — open, honest discussion helps the whole community.

 

[DadBod45]

The ONLY reason people are arguing is because there has yet to be an explanation given.

You would think the admins and mods would push the source for an explanation because If the issue was resolved, the arguing and back and fourth would probably go away. That is unless, the camera footage shows there was a rogue employee involved…..

 

[WED]

The ONLY reason people are arguing is because there has yet to be an explanation given.

You would think the admins and mods would push the source for an explanation because If the issue was resolved, the arguing and back and fourth would probably go away. That is unless, the camera footage shows there was a rogue employee involved…..

Agree. The arguing is over the non-response.

@Captain_Furious has your silence been bought? What do you have to explain. You're on the board reading your DMs

 

[GYMnTONIC]

The ONLY reason people are arguing is because there has yet to be an explanation given.

You would think the admins and mods would push the source for an explanation because If the issue was resolved, the arguing and back and fourth would probably go away. That is unless, the camera footage shows there was a rogue employee involved…..

While that is a fair thought my good sir
We are really supposed to steer 100% clear of discussing any type of transactions with sources. I think the board may fail to understand that.

They pay for advertising and that is simply it. Legally that is in place. Some of us go above and beyond to leverage and help out and that has now become a "standard" but I assure you Arnold does not want us remotely dealing with Sponsor issues. I am too busy to continue explaining in this thread guys. I just read above and Vision says he is unlocking it
That solves this. No more need to keep going in circles over this guys. Once it's unlocked the OP and the brand can reveal what is going on.

 

[Vision]

I cannot because I didn't lock it. I have no clue who was involved in this, which thread or admin but if they locked it then they would be the ones to handle it sir.

i am not saying we lock all threads. But if people keep fighting and bickering in a thread and its going in endless useless circles, its detrimental to the forum.

Its not like these are threads of knowledge that gain new studies, or knowledge over time and are great to update. This is people simply arguing. Repeatedly.

Precisely, some of the statements and questions that are being made are loaded, we all know where that goes, furthermore some things that are mentioned, are equivalent as if some of us are arguing with our girlfriend or our ex, who is bringing up something from the long distance past that has been paved over, without getting to the original issue at hand in finding a resolve, bringing things off topic that still are not helpful and will not find a resolve, and are unrelated.

People have the freedom to create any new threads they want with any issues that they would like to discuss, just so the community understands, my attention is at the first and original poster, once that's done I will answer all in any questions and concerns from each and every single individual that has a genuine and authentic question that may better assist them with their concerns.

The direction it went is disrespectful to the original poster. He's my priority, not a random joint date from August 2025 with a loaded statement.

 

[Vision]

For people that are curious on this instance, this is not a sandwich, in which we can go back and ask the cook what happened, this takes time to find a resolve.
There is a due process just like there is with any other investigation in the world.

 

[tommygunz]

Nowhere did I say that the entire masses and the entire community does not deserve an answer or a response, the twisting of the words with verbal judo that people are using is nothing but smoking mirrors, I've emphasized "certain people" I will not acknowledge, nor do I have to nor my obligated to.
Historically I have always treated all individuals and this community very very good, Please find anywhere that I have mistreated any members, or incited, antagonized or provoked people for what would appear to be entertainment.

Treat people as if you would like to be treated the same.

People can't expect professionalism if they don't display it themselves.
With words disappearing and being replaced with others coming up with their own interpretations, those are the ones I will not entertain.

You and I have a little history, it’s been pretty public. We’ve both said shitty things to each other, that’s life on steroids lol.

This is neither a defense nor a condemnation.

I ask myself would Vision perpetrate this?
After years here of observing you I’m compelled to say no.
Would he try to explain it away with lots of meaningless words and an intelligence display?
After years of observing him I have to say yes.

Bro, you’re a guy on a roid board that pimps drugs from a UGL drug dealer. It’s not your responsibility to do anything except facilitate customer/dealer interaction. That’s it. You’ve got a good reputation and I know you’re an overall good guy, I’ve seen it. Don’t throw away the respect you’ve earned here by being a drug dealers’ ride or die.

Ask yourself if whomever PSL is, would they come to your defense and risk ruination for you, if you defrauded the membership?

 

[WED]

The direction it went is disrespectful to the original poster. He's my priority, not a random joint date from August 2025 with a loaded statement.

I joined in July if this was directed at me

 

[AR-15]

Yes you did you fucker

Ok….Ok….I admit I was poking at you guys a little bit. You know kinda like a “Really guys” type poke. Wasn’t looking to start a bunch of shit over it. I should know better.

I have a weird feeling now that I have managed to completely jump over Codem and now I’m sitting in the #1 spot to get the dreaded Ban Hammer all by myself.

 

[AR-15]

Nowhere did I say that the entire masses and the entire community does not deserve an answer or a response, the twisting of the words with verbal judo that people are using is nothing but smoking mirrors, I've emphasized "certain people" I will not acknowledge, nor do I have to nor my obligated to.
Historically I have always treated all individuals and this community very very good, Please find anywhere that I have mistreated any members, or incited, antagonized or provoked people for what would appear to be entertainment.

Treat people as if you would like to be treated the same.

People can't expect professionalism if they don't display it themselves.
With words disappearing and being replaced with others coming up with their own interpretations, those are the ones I will not entertain.

Sorry to break up all the bitching and fighting but man every time I hear or see someone use the words “Verbal Judo” I legit laugh out loud. Don’t ask cause I don’t know. It just sounds funny.

 

[tommygunz]

Sorry to break up all the bitching and fighting but man every time I hear or see someone use the words “Verbal Judo” I legit laugh out loud. Don’t ask cause I don’t know. It just sounds funny.

Verbal Judo on a trampoline is more accurate

 

[S00Meaty]

Verbal Judo on a trampoline is more accurate

What's that other common term

Mental Jim and Ass Ticks or Sum Ting

 

[JACKED_]

 

[Omoplata]

Oh and one more thing, Vision has been around for as long as I can remember and I've never seen someone who can say so many words without actually saying anything of substance. Then having the audacity to say people dont deserve a response when they are concerned about a bad test and didn't just assume the same lab that lied about a test result was telling the truth. Not a good look and sounds a lot like some other reps no longer here.

The response should be "we understand your outrage and we ourselves are outraged if this turns out to be true after an investigation. Please give us time to work through this and we will keep you updated along the way"

Damn. Said it with his chest.

 

[WED]

@Captain_Furious has your silence been bought? What do you have to explain. You're on the board reading your DMs

Dude just chatting up a storm

 

[S00Meaty]

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Dude just chatting up a storm

LOL-Who cares man.
I'm sure he'll chime in at some point.

But dude if it were me and I saw someone going on like this, I'd almost not say anything just cuz well that's how I roll when I feel someone is tryin to tell me what to do.

Edit- Oh shit- I just gave away the secret on how to silence me for good. Oh well.

 

[Omoplata]

I cannot because I didn't lock it. I have no clue who was involved in this, which thread or admin but if they locked it then they would be the ones to handle it sir.

i am not saying we lock all threads. But if people keep fighting and bickering in a thread and its going in endless useless circles, its detrimental to the forum.

Its not like these are threads of knowledge that gain new studies, or knowledge over time and are great to update. This is people simply arguing. Repeatedly.

Plot twist: the testosterone is actually estradiol and people are experiencing PMS

 

[cdubw44]

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Dude just chatting up a storm

Technically he is doing what he should be doing and going through the rep. And I have been in contact with him for his reimbursement.