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2 Gram Off Season Cycle Blood Work Results Are In...

thebiggestdumbass said:
Just speaking from what I’ve seen from your post, you’re dogmatic about pushing the lowest doses, any thread asking about a cycle that’s more than test etc🤷‍♂️

We all have our own processes with gear
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I can see 2 perspectives here.

1- is where the avg gym bros don’t need the higher doses because they typically aren’t stepping on stage or they’re not chasing that kind of muscle. The gym bros in my gym typically just are the broccoli heads who ego lift with little to no muscle mass. They don’t stand out

2 - There are guys who are legitimately about that lifestyle of bodybuilding, have done their homework and have all the ancillaries, gear, knowledge, etc to do so.

I consider myself #2. Lots of people always ask what I do or do I compete. I’m probably top 1 or 2 physique in my gym area.
 
Meetketchup said:
What the hell is your problem? Seriously.

Fine your genetics suck. Whatever.
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Did I hurt your feelings? Was it me calling you Mustard? :ROFLMAO:

Why are all of your posts being removed or edited? They are in replies but not in the thread anymore? Who is doing that?

I thought I was pretty clear with what I said, I'll elaborate further I guess. I've noticed if people you don't coach on this board make good progress, you constantly post about them having good genetics, implying that is why they are making progress. Not hard work, good training, diet, etc. Good genetics :ROFLMAO:. OR you go into their thread, criticize one part of their plan, but have zero desire to discuss your reasonings for criticizing. If guys on here are progressing but you know they have a coach, you are absent in those threads. When your clients make good progress, you post about how well they did following your plan. It's crazy egotistical. You post in every single new thread that pops up with your 2 cents. You just run around this board coach baiting from every angle. You post zero pictures of yourself. Don't run a log yourself. Don't share anything that has to do with you, but expect everyone to take your word as gospel.

How big and experienced are you? You've stated many times that you compete. Lets see a stage shot. Black your face out and background out. :popcorn:
 
Ckmeter said:
I’d get cyastatin c for elevated creatinine to determine if kidneys are just inflamed or if you have impaired function. Do you check bp throughout the day or same time with low stress etc?

I’d consider donating blood. Otherwise, bloods look good.
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He has a cystatin c on there I believe
 
MufasaTheKing said:
is where the avg gym bros don’t need the higher doses because they typically aren’t stepping on stage or they’re not chasing that kind of muscle. The gym bros in my gym typically just are the broccoli heads who ego lift with little to no muscle mass. They don’t stand out
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I get this part of it by why be on gear if you don’t want to look like your on gear? Not saying this to argue either but I honestly think anyone who says, “I don’t want to be that big” or “i don’t want to look like I’m on gear” is coping with the fact that they can’t lol

As for number two, those types of people run bigger cycles and make insane progress because the gear complements their dedication and discipline. Might as well get the most out of the PEDs when everything else is disled
 
thebiggestdumbass said:
I get this part of it by why be on gear if you don’t want to look like your on gear? Not saying this to argue either but I honestly think anyone who says, “I don’t want to be that big” or “i don’t want to look like I’m on gear” is coping with the fact that they can’t lol

As for number two, those types of people run bigger cycles and make insane progress because the gear complements their dedication and discipline. Might as well get the most out of the PEDs when everything else is disled
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I would say it's coping for younger guys to say that when they have never been big.

If you have ever been big it's not the most ideal spot to live life as you get older. It makes a lot of simple tasks much more difficult
 
Wardamn said:
If you have ever been big it's not the most ideal spot to live life as you get older. It makes a lot of simple tasks much more difficult
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Agreed. I’ve never been big enough to really understand but I agree.

How many people who actually take this serious, whether competing or not, ever achieve that amount of size?
 
MufasaTheKing said:
They let More Plate More Dates and Greg Doucette tell them you can be huge on 300mg of test. Or they say oh but Bumstead runs 500mg of test, yea no shit he’s already huge and he didn’t use 500mg of test to get to that size
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The whole moreplatesmoredates community is super cringe.
 
Ckmeter said:
I’d get cyastatin c for elevated creatinine to determine if kidneys are just inflamed or if you have impaired function. Do you check bp throughout the day or same time with low stress etc?

I’d consider donating blood. Otherwise, bloods look good.
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Ckmeter said:
I stand corrected. @Oakley6575, you’re a smart man. And your kidneys are solid. Fucking props brother.
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(y) I tried to get everything in there to make sure I was in a good spot to continue. Out of curiosity, why the hell would I need to donate blood? Nothing in that panel says that to me.
 
Wardamn said:
It's a whopping 50.1, nothing to bat an eye at.
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He asked why he would need to donate blood, I'm not the one who initially suggested it, but I gave him an answer based on his test results.

There's a lot of cocksuckers on here tonight
 
Oakley6575 said:
(y) I tried to get everything in there to make sure I was in a good spot to continue. Out of curiosity, why the hell would I need to donate blood? Nothing in that panel says that to me.
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Slightly elevated hgb and hct. Your platelets and rbc are normal, so it isn’t an absolute must.

I still believe it is beneficial to clean out if bloods indicate thick blood at all, and I usually donate after I drop down to trt.
 
Ckmeter said:
Slightly elevated hgb and hct. Your platelets and rbc are normal, so it isn’t an absolute must.

I still believe it is beneficial to clean out if bloods indicate thick blood at all, and I usually donate after I drop down to trt.
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codem said:
He asked why he would need to donate blood, I'm not the one who initially suggested it, but I gave him an answer based on his test results.

There's a lot of cocksuckers on here tonight
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Worth mentioning too, donating can cause a rebound in these markers too, creating a cycle of having to donate more frequently. This can also then lead to low ferritin which we all know can be miserable.

I think it’s best addressed through diet/supplementary intervention, hydration, and cardio. I’ve found it to be easily manageable through those factors alone, but of course everyone is different.
 
FearsomeCOR said:
Worth mentioning too, donating can cause a rebound in these markers too, creating a cycle of having to donate more frequently. This can also then lead to low ferritin which we all know can be miserable.

I think it’s best addressed through diet/supplementary intervention, hydration, and cardio. I’ve found it to be easily manageable through those factors alone, but of course everyone is different.
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I personally haven’t experienced that, but I have heard it can happen.

Everyone is different 100%. @Oakley6575’s response was “why the hell would I need to donate blood”. I just said he should consider it. If he considered it and didn’t want to for the reasons you mentioned, that is completely valid.

Every blood marker that’s out of range should be addressed in some way in my opinion — or at least considered. It doesn’t matter if it’s only slightly out of range. The only caveat to that is liver enzymes, as those will always be slightly elevated unless you take a break for a few days from training and eating high protein.
 
Oakley6575 said:
(y) I tried to get everything in there to make sure I was in a good spot to continue. Out of curiosity, why the hell would I need to donate blood? Nothing in that panel says that to me.
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Always want to check an iron studies panel
If considering donation. Could easily wipe of ferretin causing another set of issues.
 
FearsomeCOR said:
Worth mentioning too, donating can cause a rebound in these markers too, creating a cycle of having to donate more frequently. This can also then lead to low ferritin which we all know can be miserable.

I think it’s best addressed through diet/supplementary intervention, hydration, and cardio. I’ve found it to be easily manageable through those factors alone, but of course everyone is different.
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yeah i was stuck in that loop for a year. ended up with crazy rdw from the mix of baby cells and old cells
 
codem said:
You asked why you would need to donate blood, I gave you the answer. And now you're being a smart ass.

Cool guy
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50.1.... Im not going to donate blood at 50.1. That is asinine and illogical. Especially when the rest of the panel looks the way it does.

You should do some research and educate yourself before giving other people medical advice.
 

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