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2025 MR.Olympia Controversy another bad year of Judging?

Sector. said:
Everyone’s using HLA now, it’s the new tech because it’s somewhat temporary but still stretches the fascia.

I’ve considered it for the long head of My triceps honestly. Mediphorm has solid reviews
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I would do some more research. It stays in the body a very long time from what I remember.
 
REHH said:
Derek had what looked like a quart of synthol in each lat, I’d never pick someone to win Mr O that had obvious signs of muscle filled with oil.
Samson looked good pre contest and I thought he’d win but he melted during the show
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He did it 2 Olympias ago too... Makes no sense to fire any SEO there
unless is helps him in a side Bi/Tri pose where he can press his arm against the "Lumps" and make his Arms appear bigger??
Hadi's rear delt's were full of Valvoline also.
 
Sector. said:
Agree with this on the muscle loss.

Samson was around 330lbs offseason and 250-260 on stage. Lost 70-80lbs, and clearly a ton of muscle. He wasn’t just flat, he was small

As heart warming as the story was of his wife being his coach and him winning an Olympia like that, he needs to hire an actual coach. His wife shouldn’t be prepping him. They butchered that prep hard
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Fouad claimed in bro chat the weight difference on stage was 300 vs 294 lol
 
FearsomeCOR said:
Fouad claimed in bro chat the weight difference on stage was 300 vs 294 lol
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He keeps bragging that Sampson sent him pics 3 weeks out and was ready. I don't care if he "looked" ready, which we know he didn't, the night before. It's on stage that day and finals. Nothing else matters.

And for Fouad to not see how shrunk down he was getting weekly updates until 3 weeks out is ridiculous.
 
Ckmeter said:
Mike has zero adductors or glutes. His back double is posed with his hips crazy back to try to close the adductor gap, and it still is gaping. First thing I noticed when compared to Ramon and Terrence.

Terrence has no arms or calves. Ramon was the clear winner in person.
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I will say, Ramon is one of the most cartoony physiques I’ve seen in person. I love it.
 
Meetketchup said:
He keeps bragging that Sampson sent him pics 3 weeks out and was ready. I don't care if he "looked" ready, which we know he didn't, the night before. It's on stage that day and finals. Nothing else matters.

And for Fouad to not see how shrunk down he was getting weekly updates until 3 weeks out is ridiculous.
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I really don’t even watch anymore cause Fouad (among just kinda being generally a doofus imo lol) is such an annoyingly clear dickrider of Samson. I get it he’s your athlete and friend but damn.

Same shit he did when Nick was a Hosstile athlete.
 
The only one that didn't look like crap was Andrew. The two Anadrol trolls that took 1 and 2 are midgets. I can't take seriously any man that I can palm on the forehead and he can't hit me at all ever in 100 years of holding him there. Oil filled midgets are not men.

j/k
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rawbuilt said:
his back double and side chest is lights out... they look like 212 compared to nick
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Its hard to argue that. Would be cool to have a after voting Contest and see what guys on here think the placings should of been. I know I voted on Marathons give away and I would change my top 10 a lot after what I picked before the show.
 
BigBack93 said:
Would be cool to have a after voting Contest and see what guys on here think the placings should of been.
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Would be cool, but most guys on here don't know how they are judged. They go by what THEY like and prefer. Two different things. Opinions are cool, but there is a technical aspect.
 
This is what i have found for rules to judge competitors from the IFBB website.

1. At this time, the judges will be assessing the overall physique for the degree of proportion, symmetry, muscle size and quality (density, separation, definition) as well as skin tone. The scoring for the Elimination Round will proceed as follows:

I don't believe that aesthetics are mentioned anywhere In the judging criteria from my understanding yet many people often go by that.

ifbb.com

Rules

The International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness (IFBB) is the governing body of the sport of Bodybuilding and Fitness, founded in 1946 in Montreal
ifbb.com ifbb.com
 
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ruffus said:
This is what i have found for rules to judge competitors from the IFBB website.

1. At this time, the judges will be assessing the overall physique for the degree of proportion, symmetry, muscle size and quality (density, separation, definition) as well as skin tone. The scoring for the Elimination Round will proceed as follows:

I don't believe that aesthetics are mentioned anywhere In the judging criteria from my understanding yet many people often go by that.

ifbb.com

Rules

The International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness (IFBB) is the governing body of the sport of Bodybuilding and Fitness, founded in 1946 in Montreal
ifbb.com ifbb.com
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Proportion and symmetry = aesthetics
 
ruffus said:
But you can also have those without aesthetics. A person can have less than desirable structure but be proportional and symmetric.
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I think we are thinking of the definition of the word proportional different. Proportions as-in, x-frame proportions…

Sure, Nick Walker could be proportional if he had bigger legs to make his frame look proportionally better…

Structure is a major aspect of proportions in bodybuilding…
 
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I think the guy that compared Derek to Andrea also made this one. I know I sound like a grumpy old man but the guys today just aren’t visually appealing. I feel like they pack on too much size way too quick at a young age. Add a bunch of oil to that and you get guys that are absolutely massive but don’t have shape, density, or lines.
 

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I think the guy that compared Derek to Andrea also made this one. I know I sound like a grumpy old man but the guys today just aren’t visually appealing. I feel like they pack on too much size way too quick at a young age. Add a bunch of oil to that and you get guys that are absolutely massive but don’t have shape, density, or lines.
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flex wheeler secretly based? 😧
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Ckmeter said:
I think we are thinking of the definition of the word proportional different. Proportions as-in, x-frame proportions…

Sure, Nick Walker could be proportional if he had bigger legs to make his frame look proportionally better…

Structure is a major aspect of proportions in bodybuilding…
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Proportional for me would be are the arms and legs proportion to each other. Are they in proportion to the frame/torso.
I don't remember hearing people talk about Dorian, Branch , Kia or countless others having great aesthetics.
So for me a person can have the requirements to win that the IFBB has in their rules and still not have great aesthetics by what most people call aesthetically pleasing lines.
Aesthetics is just what a individual likes. Proportion, symmetry etc can be more objective.
 
Meetketchup said:
Him doing a quick turning around going in at a supposed +300lbs is a huge risk, he comes in off its's a massive mistake. He comes in like a monster it turns the narrative.
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He just need a real coach again imo. I don’t think they’ll find that balance of size and conditioning on their own.

We all know that wasn’t simply a carb up issue…
 

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