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M'Cheyne One Year Reading Plan

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M'Cheyne One Year Reading Plan - Bible App

This plan is based on the M’Cheyne reading system, featuring four different readings for use in both family and personal devotions. Each day has two passages from the Old Testament, one from the New Testament, and one from either the Psalms or the Gospels. In one year, you read the Old Testament...
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I'm trying this one above this year, I like it goes through the OT once and NT and psalms twice. My wife and I read/listen to it every morning on the youversion Bible app.

I did the one below for years and like it a lot. OT once and NT twice a year. Just takes around 10-15 min a day

Robert Roberts

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Robert Roberts - Bible App

Robust and systematic, Roberts plan guides you through a complete reading of the Old Testament and two complete readings of the New Testament. Readings average four chapters in length and include both Old and New Testament passages each day.
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Multislacking said:
I've used this in the past and enjoyed it:

Read the Bible Through in a Year!

Read the Bible Through in a Year. Eight Bible versions available, and five different reading programs.
www.bibleinayear.org www.bibleinayear.org

The nice part is it sends you an email with the day's reading. So as long as you are the type of person that checks email daily, it works quite well. Your bible study easily becomes a part of your daily ritual and only takes a few minutes. And if you happen to miss a day, it is still there waiting on you.
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Im going to complete use this and finish this year.
 
tatertot said:
This verse stuck out to me today. I was blessed to grow up in a Christian home. However, I'm reminded that faith is something personal between myself and the Lord. Being from a "Christian house", or living in a "Christian nation" is not enough to save me. Repentance (turning from sin and turning to righteousness by God's help) must be something I personally do.

...Though, of course, repentance and faith is a free gift from God and I can do nothing on my own (john 3:27), and it's by God's grace that we are saved :)
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Licky u, how is it living in a christian home? How is it that God put each of us in a shithole, but saved only a few, and gave all sorts of people all sorts of blessings, yet did he hand pick and choose who would have a shitty life? Was it like a stack of playing cards and he just pointed and said this one is blessed while the other is in poverty and will be born to a shitty life??

Sure seems that way… oh how lovely to be blessed from birth….


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j2048b said:
Licky u, how is it living in a christian home? How is it that God put each of us in a shithole, but saved only a few, and gave all sorts of people all sorts of blessings, yet did he hand pick and choose who would have a shitty life? Was it like a stack of playing cards and he just pointed and said this one is blessed while the other is in poverty and will be born to a shitty life??

Sure seems that way… oh how lovely to be blessed from birth….


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I cant say that I know you and your heart, or where exactly you're coming from with this post, but I'll try to answer it with sincerity and grace... if you'd like to chat more, i'm happy to -

1. christian home - It was wonderful to grow up with two parents who loved us kids and the Lord and taught us from the Scriptures and brought us to church. We had similar problems that all families have. For one, my dad came from an abusive family with two alcholics and a dad who died when he was 3. He had a hard time being a good father, because he never saw it modeled for him. But if God hadn't saved my father, he would be in prison or dead,,,, and so would i. Secondly, Growing up we were poor. The highlight of our week was going to McDonalds on Wednesday for .99cent happy meals that my mother was able to scrape together doing hair cutting. We still have family problems. 10 years and 2 weeks ago my mom left, and eventually my dad. My sister has struggled with drugs and meth addiction since high school. The list goes on...

2. blessings - The word "blessings" can easily be misunderstood. 1 Timothy 6:6-11 speaks that as Christians our pursuit should be Godliness... and if we have food and clothing we have enough material possessions. Now that's not always how I practically live, but that's an area I desire to grow.

3. "shitty life" - again, a term that should defined.... but it makes me wonder, "what kind of life does God owe us?" According to the Bible, we have committed cosmic treason against an infinite holy and powerful God. Take for example a king who's citizens rebel and attempt to overthrow him. What would/should that king do to those disloyal subjects? The bad news is those disloyal subjects trying to subvert and assasinate the king is me, and you, and every human on this planet... The good news is that rather than destroy us, He sent his Son Jesus to take pay the penatly for our sins, and drink the cup of wrath that we deserve. Through repentance and faith in Christ alone we can be forgiven of our cosmic treason against the one true God.

4. stack of cards - Isaiah 46 describes God such that He is sovereign and in control of all things. "I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’" That's a terrifying thought for the rebel against Him. But for the Christian, we take comfort knowing that God is working all things together for good for those who love God... And we may not see that good on this earth, it might be in glory that we see it. So I dont know why God allows evil things to happen, or what the end purpose is... but I know He is God, and from eternity past He is using that evil for a purpose.
What's the flip side to that coin? That we are all just accidents of chemicals and matter? In that case what basis do we have to even call something "evil" or "good"?

Hope that answers some of your questions. Sorry for the long essay.
 
j2048b said:
Licky u, how is it living in a christian home? How is it that God put each of us in a shithole, but saved only a few, and gave all sorts of people all sorts of blessings, yet did he hand pick and choose who would have a shitty life? Was it like a stack of playing cards and he just pointed and said this one is blessed while the other is in poverty and will be born to a shitty life??

Sure seems that way… oh how lovely to be blessed from birth….


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Hang in there man. Sometimes when I feel like I’ve been dealt an unjust and shitty hand I try to serve others in some way. Even if it doesn’t improve my circumstances it makes me feel better. If I can help someone in need I feel like God doesn’t let these things happen, we as a society do and it’s up to us to fix it, together. That’s why I like to be part of the Christian community because so many people go out of there way to help others in need. Regardless of the things you hear or see about those who use Christianity for profit. We use Christianity for the prophet.
 
Milford King said:
Hang in there man. Sometimes when I feel like I’ve been dealt an unjust and shitty hand I try to serve others in some way. Even if it doesn’t improve my circumstances it makes me feel better. If I can help someone in need I feel like God doesn’t let these things happen, we as a society do and it’s up to us to fix it, together. That’s why I like to be part of the Christian community because so many people go out of there way to help others in need. Regardless of the things you hear or see about those who use Christianity for profit. We use Christianity for the prophet.
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Milford hit it on the head. I forgot to speak to your situation, and for that, I am sorry. The hope in Jesus should never make a person prideful or a sense of being better than another person. In fact, the Christian should be the most humble, caring, loving, merciful and graceful person in the room... why? because Christians realize that we owe such a debt to God that we could never repay, but he FORGAVE us at the cost of His own Son Jesus.

In Matthew 18:21-35, Jesus tells a parable of an unforgiving servant. This debtor owed his king 10,000 talents (1 talent was about 16 years of work pay). The king forgives the debt, but the debtor then finds a man who owes him 100 day's wages. The original debtor chokes the man and then throws him in prison until he fully pays the debt. The King find outs and says, "you wicked servant," and tosses the original debtor in prison. Jesus ends the parable with the warning, "So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart."

I'm feeling long winded again, so let me close by saying that the ground is level at the cross. There's room for you, me, and all the other meat heads here :) Jesus says to come as you are.
Come to Jesus and he offers forgiveness of all sins, reconciliation with God, hope, peace, and eternal life. Doesnt matter if we're rich, poor, black, white, had a good childhood or a shit childhood. There is rejoicing in all of heaven when one sinner repents and believes the Gospel.
 
tatertot said:
I cant say that I know you and your heart, or where exactly you're coming from with this post, but I'll try to answer it with sincerity and grace... if you'd like to chat more, i'm happy to -

1. christian home - It was wonderful to grow up with two parents who loved us kids and the Lord and taught us from the Scriptures and brought us to church. We had similar problems that all families have. For one, my dad came from an abusive family with two alcholics and a dad who died when he was 3. He had a hard time being a good father, because he never saw it modeled for him. But if God hadn't saved my father, he would be in prison or dead,,,, and so would i. Secondly, Growing up we were poor. The highlight of our week was going to McDonalds on Wednesday for .99cent happy meals that my mother was able to scrape together doing hair cutting. We still have family problems. 10 years and 2 weeks ago my mom left, and eventually my dad. My sister has struggled with drugs and meth addiction since high school. The list goes on...

2. blessings - The word "blessings" can easily be misunderstood. 1 Timothy 6:6-11 speaks that as Christians our pursuit should be Godliness... and if we have food and clothing we have enough material possessions. Now that's not always how I practically live, but that's an area I desire to grow.

3. "shitty life" - again, a term that should defined.... but it makes me wonder, "what kind of life does God owe us?" According to the Bible, we have committed cosmic treason against an infinite holy and powerful God. Take for example a king who's citizens rebel and attempt to overthrow him. What would/should that king do to those disloyal subjects? The bad news is those disloyal subjects trying to subvert and assasinate the king is me, and you, and every human on this planet... The good news is that rather than destroy us, He sent his Son Jesus to take pay the penatly for our sins, and drink the cup of wrath that we deserve. Through repentance and faith in Christ alone we can be forgiven of our cosmic treason against the one true God.

4. stack of cards - Isaiah 46 describes God such that He is sovereign and in control of all things. "I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’" That's a terrifying thought for the rebel against Him. But for the Christian, we take comfort knowing that God is working all things together for good for those who love God... And we may not see that good on this earth, it might be in glory that we see it. So I dont know why God allows evil things to happen, or what the end purpose is... but I know He is God, and from eternity past He is using that evil for a purpose.
What's the flip side to that coin? That we are all just accidents of chemicals and matter? In that case what basis do we have to even call something "evil" or "good"?

Hope that answers some of your questions. Sorry for the long essay.
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Well i will say my heart hasnt been where the Lord requires it to be…. My post was a post in general wondermeant as ive been around the best christian families thru my life, pastors, youth pastors, best families who at times where not christians in the past, but changed thru Christ,

but also the day i posted this was a day as any other where i tend to grasp the thinking of suicide…. Ive dealth with it for years and years and its always there….and causes anger…

Now to answer /ask about the numbered answers u made:

1. I was poor too and had a very very similar upbringing where people where alcoholics and super poor but i wouldnt let it deter me….not a christian home but chose the path to escape the hell i had been put in…. Why was i put into it?? Perhaps to further the Lord’s plan?? Dunno?

2. Blessings sure, everyday needs as the meek shall inherit the earth…… but i guess u less u tithe… maybe ur not as blessed as u could be? Perhaps?

3. WE have not committed cosmic treason…. Was it enki or Enlil who first came and actually made adem? (Adam?) how old is the earth truly? Who was here before us?? Who is GOD? Tartarin mud floods etc…BUT I GET IT. Generational sins …..


(MAYBE THIS IS PART OF THE GREAT DECEPTION? MAYBE HIS WAY OF THINKING IS CORRECT???) maybe its SATANS PLAN to build his army… by deception?

4. Simply Divine: Worshiping a God Who Lacks Nothing

GOD NEEDS NOTHING! So if we take that at face value, we owe him? Yes we just might because he is the great I AM! We owe him worship and tithes and everything because he created us… all different, some poor some more poor and then the select few who were rich??

Why did GOD create his own sect named the Jews ? Yet we were all created as gentiles?? Why? Why would he create a group who would need grafted in? Why would he say the Jews were his people yet we are all created in his image and for his purposes? Yet we were not “his” people… always made no sense if we are all created in his image and by him and for him…., we should never have needed to be grafted in unless we are created by someone else (Anki vs Enlil) ??? Weird i know…. But its out there….

Yes i believe in Jesus and who he was and i believe he is my savior but those questions remain


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j2048b said:
Well i will say my heart hasnt been where the Lord requires it to be…. My post was a post in general wondermeant as ive been around the best christian families thru my life, pastors, youth pastors, best families who at times where not christians in the past, but changed thru Christ,

but also the day i posted this was a day as any other where i tend to grasp the thinking of suicide…. Ive dealth with it for years and years and its always there….and causes anger…

Now to answer /ask about the numbered answers u made:

1. I was poor too and had a very very similar upbringing where people where alcoholics and super poor but i wouldnt let it deter me….not a christian home but chose the path to escape the hell i had been put in…. Why was i put into it?? Perhaps to further the Lord’s plan?? Dunno?

2. Blessings sure, everyday needs as the meek shall inherit the earth…… but i guess u less u tithe… maybe ur not as blessed as u could be? Perhaps?

3. WE have not committed cosmic treason…. Was it enki or Enlil who first came and actually made adem? (Adam?) how old is the earth truly? Who was here before us?? Who is GOD? Tartarin mud floods etc…BUT I GET IT. Generational sins …..


(MAYBE THIS IS PART OF THE GREAT DECEPTION? MAYBE HIS WAY OF THINKING IS CORRECT???) maybe its SATANS PLAN to build his army… by deception?

4. Simply Divine: Worshiping a God Who Lacks Nothing

GOD NEEDS NOTHING! So if we take that at face value, we owe him? Yes we just might because he is the great I AM! We owe him worship and tithes and everything because he created us… all different, some poor some more poor and then the select few who were rich??

Why did GOD create his own sect named the Jews ? Yet we were all created as gentiles?? Why? Why would he create a group who would need grafted in? Why would he say the Jews were his people yet we are all created in his image and for his purposes? Yet we were not “his” people… always made no sense if we are all created in his image and by him and for him…., we should never have needed to be grafted in unless we are created by someone else (Anki vs Enlil) ??? Weird i know…. But its out there….

Yes i believe in Jesus and who he was and i believe he is my savior but those questions remain


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Not many people pick up on what you are seeing. It took me years to see why he chose the Jews (He was creating a Holy set apart nation) and why he ultimately set them aside (Their final rejection in Acts 7). You have a lot of insight.

Anyway He gave us free will and with that free will we sinned. Sin (both original and ours) has caused the brokenness in this world not God. Lay the blame at the feet of sin brother. God loves you beyond our comprehension. Direct your anger at sin not Him.

Not sure if this will speak to you but its been on my mind lately.

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.

Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.

For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
Ok so I have a Bible. (got it in Prison actually) and it's King James Version

Wondering if we can get a thread going in here. You don't have to be religious, I wouldn't say I am, but I do believe in God, and I do think this is a super valuable book. The last books I read were 48 laws of Power and Art of Seduction both by Robert Greene and they were amazing

So I'm gonna start reading 10-15minutes a day again, bc to be quite honest, this lockdown is making me lose my mind. And I need to get some structure back in my life.

So anyways,we have some solid experts on this forum. From lockpicking, to meds, to computer hacking to mechanics, etc, etc.

You get what I am saying

Is there anyone here who is an expert in say theology, or hermeneutics or even Philosophy?

I'd like to bounce some questions off you guys, re: Interpretation. I have read the Bible in the past and I don't understand much of it.

If anyone else is in on this venture, feel free to join me. It is one of the greatest books I have read, but it has been a decade since I read it.

So I am in need of assistance!

Thanks!
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My Dad is a Bible theologian and my grand father was a Baptist minister. I've been in and out of church my whole life. Yes I do belive in Jesus Christ. As my lord and savior. Not BECAUSE anyone told me too our Even convinced me because when I was at the lowest point in my life I called out to him and he heard me. He found me where I was and the Love of Christ changed everything. I was a lost soul living on the street with a Meth addiction. That was almost 20 years ago and I'm not perfect not even close. IM A sinner saved by grace. With that being said I would gladly talk about the Bible and thanks for posting this.I should pick up that Bible too.
 
heavyiron said:
Not many people pick up on what you are seeing. It took me years to see why he chose the Jews (He was creating a Holy set apart nation) and why he ultimately set them aside (Their final rejection in Acts 7). You have a lot of insight.

Anyway He gave us free will and with that free will we sinned. Sin (both original and ours) has caused the brokenness in this world not God. Lay the blame at the feet of sin brother. God loves you beyond our comprehension. Direct your anger at sin not Him.

Not sure if this will speak to you but its been on my mind lately.

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.

Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.

For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.
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Thank you for saying that i have a lot of insight, ive been a guy who asks questions and asks why, even tho we shouldn’t question GOD, i always ask him why…. Why did some get set apart, if ur omnipotent wouldnt u know what was going to occur? Maybe the book is open ended because he doesnt know who will decide to take on his sons name? And it makes sense, but its like saying God cant have his mind changed yet they challenged him to change is mind about sodom and ghamora … he was going to IF they could find 1 person who was righteous…. So does that mean you can change Gods mind? I think he is open to it IF…..

Yes u are right we are hidden in Christ, not hidden to the world

I also believe that the bible alone speaks in parables…

The whale that ate Jonah… it wasnt a literal whale it was the world…. The world is the whale that will eat u up, and toss u out once its done with u….


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heavyiron said:
Not many people pick up on what you are seeing. It took me years to see why he chose the Jews (He was creating a Holy set apart nation) and why he ultimately set them aside (Their final rejection in Acts 7). You have a lot of insight.

Anyway He gave us free will and with that free will we sinned. Sin (both original and ours) has caused the brokenness in this world not God. Lay the blame at the feet of sin brother. God loves you beyond our comprehension. Direct your anger at sin not Him.

Not sure if this will speak to you but its been on my mind lately.

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.

Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.

For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.
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A good place to start answering some of these questions would be a group of scripture called Roman's road. It's been years since I've been into the Bible but if there is one thing I know brother it's that Jesus Christ Loves you man. You are a child of God! Remember that God is eternal and our lives are just a blink of an eye to him. There is no way our minds can grasp the mind oF our eternal Father. Faith in the Lord Jesus christ! Believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth that he died for your sins and rose again on the 3rd day and by doing so He took on the sins of the world. God is Holly and No one is worthy to come before him without Jesus no one would be able to enter into his Kingdom. The wages of sin is death. The free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus. Bro suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem. God Loves You.
 
heavyiron said:
Anyway He gave us free will and with that free will we sinned. Sin (both original and ours) has caused the brokenness in this world not God. Lay the blame at the feet of sin brother. God loves you beyond our comprehension. Direct your anger at sin not Him.
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^ This.

I will add that I think most people with at least a little intelligence have contemplated suicide. It's human nature to think of alternative solutions to problems. Add emotion to that equation and it is easy to see why some do. The human mind can be every bit as ill as the human body. We often want to lay blame on those who commit suicide, but yet we wouldn't blame someone for getting cancer or being born with some other disease.

Some times it is hard for people to see that they have worth and their life matters. None of us know what the future holds and what kind of an impact we may have. Here or not here.

If everyone hasn't already, please add @j2048b to your prayers. And I'm sure you can reach out to any of us, if you want to talk.
 
Multislacking said:
^ This.

I will add that I think most people with at least a little intelligence have contemplated suicide. It's human nature to think of alternative solutions to problems. Add emotion to that equation and it is easy to see why some do. The human mind can be every bit as ill as the human body. We often want to lay blame on those who commit suicide, but yet we wouldn't blame someone for getting cancer or being born with some other disease.

Some times it is hard for people to see that they have worth and their life matters. None of us know what the future holds and what kind of an impact we may have. Here or not here.

If everyone hasn't already, please add @j2048b to your prayers. And I'm sure you can reach out to any of us, if you want to talk.
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Thanks homie, its something ive dealth with before leaving the service…. And its always in the mind…. Try to do other things and stay away from things and people because it pops up more often then id like to honestly admit….


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j2048b said:
Thanks homie, its something ive dealth with before leaving the service…. And its always in the mind…. Try to do other things and stay away from things and people because it pops up more often then id like to honestly admit….


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You bring up a good point. This is VERY common among servicemen. If you aren't already, it may help to communicate with your peers. You definitely aren't alone.
 
Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light.”

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Jimmynolove said:
Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light.”

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Mathew 11 28-30
 
Multislacking said:
^ This.

I will add that I think most people with at least a little intelligence have contemplated suicide. It's human nature to think of alternative solutions to problems. Add emotion to that equation and it is easy to see why some do. The human mind can be every bit as ill as the human body. We often want to lay blame on those who commit suicide, but yet we wouldn't blame someone for getting cancer or being born with some other disease.

Some times it is hard for people to see that they have worth and their life matters. None of us know what the future holds and what kind of an impact we may have. Here or not here.

If everyone hasn't already, please add @j2048b to your prayers. And I'm sure you can reach out to any of us, if you want to talk.
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Agreed, anytime anyone needs to chat I'm here for them. Life sucks and kicks us hard at times. We sometimes need someones ear just to vent or get it out.
 
j2048b said:
Thank you for saying that i have a lot of insight, ive been a guy who asks questions and asks why, even tho we shouldn’t question GOD, i always ask him why…. Why did some get set apart, if ur omnipotent wouldnt u know what was going to occur? Maybe the book is open ended because he doesnt know who will decide to take on his sons name? And it makes sense, but its like saying God cant have his mind changed yet they challenged him to change is mind about sodom and ghamora … he was going to IF they could find 1 person who was righteous…. So does that mean you can change Gods mind? I think he is open to it IF…..

Yes u are right we are hidden in Christ, not hidden to the world

I also believe that the bible alone speaks in parables…

The whale that ate Jonah… it wasnt a literal whale it was the world…. The world is the whale that will eat u up, and toss u out once its done with u….


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I think there is a lot of evidence that He can change His mind but it's a pretty unpopular view =(

Again, you are way ahead of many believers.
 

"After being called on by the Lord, Abraham's faith is tested on his three day journey to sacrifice his son."
 
1 Corinthians 13:1-3
The Greatest Gift
13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body [a]to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
 
Little update.

Started my reading this morning and read/ listened up to John 8. Really tried to listen and understand so I read and listened to it a few times. Found a lot of good stuff in John 4.

John 4: 24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the spirit and in truth
John 4: 48
Unless you people see signs and wonders, Jesus told him, you will never believe.

Read that the gospels is a good place to start reading.
 
socalmk6gti said:
Perhaps I missed it but have any of you watched "The Chosen" series yet?

It has really reignited a fire in me to read The Word and get closer to Christ.

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I watched it. I believe it is a useful tool for sharing the gospel but I will say read your Bible and draw your own thoughts and beliefs. Not knocking the show I did enjoy it and it does make you think
 
tatertot said:
Pagans gonna pagan. There's nothing new under the sun. I wouldnt look too much into these "signs." We're all going to be surprised when Christ returns.... Especially those in the Dispensational/premillenial camp ;)
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We are commanded to watch for His return so that we will not be surprised.
 
heavyiron said:
We are commanded to watch for His return so that we will not be surprised.
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I believe you're referencing Matthew 25:13? "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour."

The context of Matt 25 is the final judgement. Since we are all by nature slaves to sin and deserving of God's wrath, we must run to Christ as our saviour while there's still time!

I believe the 'watching and waiting' as noted in the parable of the 10 virgins is that everyone is on the brink of eternity; judgement or life awaits us. Our life is but a vapor. Christ has appointed a day when He will judge all men, so we ought to repent and believe the Gospel NOW rather than wait until tomorrow or next year (and could be caught 'not watching' because we died or Christ returns).

I understand looking at the events of the world and trying to fit it into Revelation/apocalyptic prophecy. I grew up surrounded by it. Unfortunately, it seems to paralyze Christians and focuses on fear. I know people who have not had families, or encouraged their kids to not attend college because "the end is near." This is contradictory to the Scripture where Christ has been given all authority and told us to go into all the parts of the world conquering with the Gospel.

If a person took an honest look at where the world was before Christ, and were we are now, you'd see in the last 2,000 years the world had gotten remarkably better.... fulfilling Isaiah 2:2-4 where during the last days many people will be flowing into God's kingdom eventually culminating in world peace.
Matt 13:31–33 shows the Kingdom starts small (as a mustard seed) and growing until eventually dominating the world.


Not trying to start an argument or hurt feelings. But I see the premillenial view promoted by many these days. Just trying to bring balance and rightly divide the Word of God.
 

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