Xtren info

justjunior02 said:
Lol.. cause im old and already a lunatic.. heard this is more or less a tren light.
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Sorry I'm a bit late -- was just surfing the forums. I don't think Xtren's gonna give you the results you're looking for. What you want is MENT (Trestolone acetate). I've never used it bc I've been out of the game for a while long fucking time & it wasn't around. Based on what I've read, tho, MENT will give you explosive strength and lean mass gains (more than tren) and some recomp (more than test but not tren levels), with much less of the tren rage/insomnia. The wildcard is that it directly activates estrogen receptors, so you'd need serms, not AIs. Final point: it's damn expensive. I think your ideal dose is 25mg/d, but even then it goes quick. On the plus side, a 6-week cycle w 100mg mast/eod is long enough to give you great results, so 2 bottles of MENT is enough. Add 50mg Var ideally for a lean, hard, pumped look.
Note: both caber/pram and ralox/tamox are necessities.
 
jaybee said:
Sorry I'm a bit late -- was just surfing the forums. I don't think Xtren's gonna give you the results you're looking for. What you want is MENT (Trestolone acetate). I've never used it bc I've been out of the game for a while long fucking time & it wasn't around. Based on what I've read, tho, MENT will give you explosive strength and lean mass gains (more than tren) and some recomp (more than test but not tren levels), with much less of the tren rage/insomnia. The wildcard is that it directly activates estrogen receptors, so you'd need serms, not AIs. Final point: it's damn expensive. I think your ideal dose is 25mg/d, but even then it goes quick. On the plus side, a 6-week cycle w 100mg mast/eod is long enough to give you great results, so 2 bottles of MENT is enough. Add 50mg Var ideally for a lean, hard, pumped look.
Note: both caber/pram and ralox/tamox are necessities.
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Not sure where you got that info on MENT but unless he wants to add a shit load of water, stay away. Yes, I have run it.
 
Meetketchup said:
Not sure where you got that info on MENT but unless he wants to add a shit load of water, stay away. Yes, I have run it.
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Thanks for the input. Real-world experiences are great info -- that's why I bolded "read". As I haven't used it, what's left is AI, other AAS boards, and whatever publications I can find. OP didn't seem to be getting much help, so posted the best info I could find. I would run the combo above myself if it met my goals and I couldn't use tren. But rn that doesn't mean shit bc you can give us real-world info. What do you remember about your cycle and effects?

Thanks.
 
@Meetketchup: I was trying to be respectful by asking for your cycle bc that's the natural follow-up when someone says "Don't use it because it gave me bad sides." I also wanted to know if you ran it with Mast. I read statements from over a dozen ppl on a cpl sites who used MENT -- about 10 complained of heavy water gain or just didn't use much. There were 4 guys who said they ran it with mast and not one complained of heavy bloat. That seems to be the difference, and the reason I recommended it.
 
Tren X is a prohormone that coverts to Tren. It’s probably worse for you. Why not just get real Tren?
 
Meetketchup said:
Not sure where you got that info on MENT but unless he wants to add a shit load of water, stay away. Yes, I have run it.
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I used it for 4 months and got so water logged. I felt big and strong but when I look at the pictures now I look liked shit.
 
Xtren does not turn into tren, it even says that under the info on the Monster site. It's in the same family, but not like tren, to me it was closer to deca without the water retention. I can't remember exact dose I was on though, been a while. It was somewhere between 300-400 mg week, test and mast were also ran with it.
 
jaybee said:
Thanks for the input. Real-world experiences are great info -- that's why I bolded "read". As I haven't used it, what's left is AI, other AAS boards, and whatever publications I can find. OP didn't seem to be getting much help, so posted the best info I could find. I would run the combo above myself if it met my goals and I couldn't use tren. But rn that doesn't mean shit bc you can give us real-world info. What do you remember about your cycle and effects?

Thanks.
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Ment will absolutely drive estrogen through the roof.

It doesn't produce massive strength gains.

It will make you a walking hardon and if you run it past 8 weeks it greatly increases aggression.
 
Montego said:
Ment will absolutely drive estrogen through the roof.

It doesn't produce massive strength gains.

It will make you a walking hardon and if you run it past 8 weeks it greatly increases aggression.
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I’m using it now and I genuinely like it. I think the issues start once people try pushing the doses. I’m only on 2 mg a day and that shit drove glycogen into my muscles like crazy. I don’t think I’d ever want to go over 15 mgs a day. I’m going to titrate up slowly to 5 and then 8-10 for this bulk and see how it goes.
 
Guti20 said:
I’m using it now and I genuinely like it. I think the issues start once people try pushing the doses. I’m only on 2 mg a day and that shit drove glycogen into my muscles like crazy. I don’t think I’d ever want to go over 15 mgs a day. I’m going to titrate up slowly to 5 and then 8-10 for this bulk and see how it goes.
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You must be extremely sensitive to gear, being a good thing though. I usually run MENT @ 15-20mg day and it gives me super human strength. Or I'll run 50mg EOD.
I have found LG-3303&RAD150 give me the same results as MENT without the estrogen side effects. I wish Monster would carry some SARMs, they would be as high of quality as the anabolics I will be the test dummy no doubt.
 
Cr3eepp said:
You must be extremely sensitive to gear, being a good thing though. I usually run MENT @ 15-20mg day and it gives me super human strength. Or I'll run 50mg EOD.
I have found LG-3303&RAD150 give me the same results as MENT without the estrogen side effects. I wish Monster would carry some SARMs, they would be as high of quality as the anabolics I will be the test dummy no doubt.
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Yeah I react well specifically to nandrolone based compounds. It doesn’t fuck with my head like it does others, and I’m currently running 100 mg sustanon 100 mg deca 100 mg EQ and the 2 mg ment and the first 2 days I ate non stop because it was shuffling all the carbs into my muscles. I’m ramping up soon, I’m using this as a bridge and then ramping it up this week to start off the bulk and build serum levels of the deca and EQ
 
Cr3eepp said:
Sounds like you planned the cycle on a good bit of trial and error in the past
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Yessir. At first I didn’t know how to handle 19nor compounds so it didn’t work well and I’d have to cut them short. Now I know the test ratios I need compared to the nandrolone, EQ controls my estrogen incredibly well, and this is my trial run of ment. Heard a lot about the estrogenic issues a maybe I’ll face them more as I up the dose but I got my ancillaries all ready LOL. I like primo but there’s nothing I can’t get from a pricey compound like primo that I can’t get from EQ except obviously primo is a bit better on the bloodwork
 
XOTG85 said:
Tren X is a prohormone that coverts to Tren. It’s probably worse for you. Why not just get real Tren?
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From Chatgpt: TrenX converts into dienolone, not Tren. Dienolone is similar to trenbolone in structure but much weaker. Dienolone ≈ ~30–40% of trenbolone’s “feel”, depending on dose
 
Montego said:
Ment will absolutely drive estrogen through the roof.

It doesn't produce massive strength gains.

It will make you a walking hardon and if you run it past 8 weeks it greatly increases aggression.
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Before MENT testosterone was 1300 and E2 27. After 6 weeks on 60mg/week MENT enanthate E2 levels shoot up to 180. Other than slight bloating I did not have any other symptoms on MENT. While I was expecting greater gains from MENT, the effect was not comparable with Tren for me.
 
calf10 said:
Before MENT testosterone was 1300 and E2 27. After 6 weeks on 60mg/week MENT enanthate E2 levels shoot up to 180. Other than slight bloating I did not have any other symptoms on MENT. While I was expecting greater gains from MENT, the effect was not comparable with Tren for me.
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Interesting. I’m at 6 mg a day so far (alongside 280 mg test 200 deca and 200 EQ) and so far I feel like the e2 isn’t a huge problem which it typically is for me. Might be the EQ keeping it on lock but man ment is strong as shit.
 
Guti20 said:
Interesting. I’m at 6 mg a day so far (alongside 280 mg test 200 deca and 200 EQ) and so far I feel like the e2 isn’t a huge problem which it typically is for me. Might be the EQ keeping it on lock but man ment is strong as shit.
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To be honest, I did not feel any side effects with that high E2 levels other than slight bloating. MENT converts into 7α-methyl-estradiol, 10–20× more potent at the estrogen receptor than regular estradiol - hard to control even with AI. Glad to see 6mg/day works for you without major E2 issue.
 
justjunior02 said:
Thinking about trying some xtren. Anyone with experience, dosage recommendations, etc..?
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I've used this when it was first introduced on the market under the XTren name and nothing has ever made my blood pressure so high! I had worse sides on it than actual tren at high doses. It also gave me horrible headaches. I'd skip it and use something else.
 

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