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Why do you use AAS?

McPriimate

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Curious what people’s motivations are for using steroids (above TRT levels).

I can imagine many of them (mass monster competitor - any BB competitor actually, trying to be bigger than “normal” cuz you want to, trying to add lean muscle above what you could achieve naturally or on TRT, etc.), but I’m sure there are other reasons I haven’t thought of, too

For me, I switched from trying to be smaller than bigger (decades of endurance racing - mostly triathlon - rewards having only the muscle you absolutely need to carry) to realizing I needed to add balanced, lean muscle and strength for my long term health and wellness. After a couple years lifting I was stalling and putting on weight - but not muscle. Talked to a doc friend and started TRT (what a relief), and was lifting with good results (big recomp and fat loss), and then kind of stalled again putting on lean muscle. Adding lean mass was a health goal, so tried a number of small cycles and recently a slightly longer, more complex one (test/eq/npp) and am continuing to add muscle. I’m about 5, maybe 10, pounds of lean mass from where I want to be longer term, so that’s how it fits into my plan.

How about y’all?

McP


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Honestly..
For Me..I was tired of being small..
I started when I was 31..at 125lbs..
Of course, I didn't know how to eat properly.
My Training sucked and never bothered with Recovery.
After yrs of average gains.
I started working on my Nutrition.
Training improved over the years..
And Recovery became a big part.

I maxed out at 198.6lbs..with abs.

I guess that's why I try and push the Big 3.
Training
Nutrition
Recovery
The Gear is the smallest part..
Doesn't matter what you inject, if those 3 things aren't on point..the gains you want..aren't going to happen.
But..once I started getting my shit together.
Things started to change..
For me it's addictive..
Once you feel that Godlike feeling, it's hard to go back to being average..

Z
 
I doubt any of us Are...
One thing is for Sure..
If you're an Ahole to begin with..
Gear...amplifiers it exponentially..!!!
Z
Gear actually mellows me out but I guess it takes a “Ahole to know a Ahole”. But since we’re on the topic of things that amplify, does gear make you a bigger lier than you already are? 🤔
 
I started TRT 9 years ago. I stopped lifting at 49 (55 now) due to a triceps tendon tear in a ski accident. Got fat as a house. TRT exacerbated the issue with how I was aromatising. Started my true fitness journey at 53. I've reduced my waist size at the ❤️ handles from 47" down to 34.5" as of today. Shooting to get it down to a true 33" (I'm 6'2" 183lbs). Currently at supra-physiological levels at 252mg test-e per week split into daily pins. My goal is to ultimately weigh in around 190-195 at a BF level of 10%. Gear will help once my coach green lights the next phase. At 55 I'm concerned mainly with adding and maintaining a healthy amount of muscle and strength, increase my flexibility, hit my esthetic goals (think Mens Magazine fitness model look... long, lean and muscular but not a BB look if that makes sense), and stay as healthy as possible so that I can live my longest BEST life. Gear is just a small part of that equation as this has become a true lifestyle for me (WO daily as I'm a WO addict now... stay on point with nutrition and recovery... early to bed and early to rise). That's why I'm here and why I am looking forward to having fun with other compounds in the future. While I truly ADMIRE what most of you guys on the board have achieved physically, that's not the look I'm striving for at my age. 20+ years ago? Yes. At 55? No. BTW, I'm ex-military so cardio and real world practical strength and endurance is equally important to me as gym metrics with the weights. I plan on adding a couple of days of weighted vest hikes this summer to increase that area of my fitness. Sorry for the long rambling post. Hopefully I made my rationale clear. And I LOVE this lifestyle and this board.
 
I used to do them years ago. Stopped and then started again a couple years ago. I suffer severely from body dysmorphia. Every time I look in mirror I get ashamed. I don't like to be included in pics in fear of them being sent to me. Funny thing is, strangers will stop me several times a week and ask the stupid old question "How much can you bench press". OR they will tell me I'm jacked. None of that shit matters. It really doesn't. At 49 this is a huge fucking unhealthy problem
 
That should have been my number one reason.

I just assumed it was a precondition to registering on the board

Funny cuz when I step back and look at it, I could argue that it’s “dumb” from many angles (long term health, legality, etc). But really, at least to me, life is about understanding and balancing risks and rewards, and there’s a damn broad spectrum of both when it comes to AAS.

Life is a choose your own adventure book in the end lol

Part of why I am curious about this and asked the question is to get a sense of how people look at risk (if at all) in evaluating their goals wrt ped use - like to see how it pops up in the responses. Super varied and super interesting to me, as are people’s goals themselves

This board can be a huge asset in understanding the risks, as well (though you have to be discerning and listen in for a while to develop a sense of who knows their shit, but there’s some excellent knowledge on the board once you learn how to sift)


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I just assumed it was a precondition to registering on the board

Funny cuz when I step back and look at it, I could argue that it’s “dumb” from many angles (long term health, legality, etc). But really, at least to me, life is about understanding and balancing risks and rewards, and there’s a damn broad spectrum of both when it comes to AAS.

Life is a choose your own adventure book in the end lol

Part of why I am curious about this and asked the question is to get a sense of how people look at risk (if at all) in evaluating their goals wrt ped use - like to see how it pops up in the responses. Super varied and super interesting to me, as are people’s goals themselves

This board can be a huge asset in understanding the risks, as well (though you have to be discerning and listen in for a while to develop a sense of who knows their shit, but there’s some excellent knowledge on the board once you learn how to sift)


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In my head if you don’t make money from diminishing your health, then it’s dumb. This could be competitors too because it doesn’t really make any money unless you’re at the top. I do this simply for me, so it’s dumb lol
 
Body dysmorphia and let’s be honest- women. The sight of a woman grabbing your shoulders and arms when you’re absolutely railing her sayin “holy shit” Will have a man hit the gym harder than anything else. Top that with being dialed in and the gear you’re on- you will fucking grow.
 
In my head if you don’t make money from diminishing your health, then it’s dumb. This could be competitors too because it doesn’t really make any money unless you’re at the top. I do this simply for me, so it’s dumb lol
If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough..... When you get knocked down you gotta get back up....... I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I know enough to know... If your gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.


I know... I'll have a cardiac event eventually, a thickened and enlarged LSV
and an enlarged "athletes heart" gonna get me... Cardiologist wants to "scrape" my LSV to thin it out but I politely refused.

Will I whine and feel bad for myself if I live through a heart attack or stroke?

No, I did it to myself and there's no one to blame other than myself.

I know the consequences, most of us don't make it to old age.
 
Great question/thread OP! For me, I had gotten older and wasn’t making any progress at all anymore which was incredibly disappointing. Started with TRT and added some “safer” compounds like mast/primo just to see what would happen. Played around with Deca and dbol for a very short time and had to ask myself essentially the same question, “TF are you doing?” And honestly I’m too old now for all the harder hitting compounds and it seems like every damn day there’s a 30 something bodybuilder who drops dead. And we all know why. For me, getting gigantic would be awesome AF, but at the end of the day, not worth the trade off at all. I’ll stick with moderate cycles of test/mast/primo and train my ass off and see how far I can go with just that. I’ll never get massive, but I’ll be around to play with my grandchildren hopefully.
 
I switched addictions. From weighing foods, tracking macros, writing down my workouts, trying out different substances, journaling about how I feel on them and of course I've been insecure in my own skin for decades. Oh well. I consider myself sober. I've been sober from alcohol, weed and cocaine since 99, but I'm still addicted... at least outwardly I have it together. ... oh yeah I still fantasize about ephedra though.... if they would just legalize that.
 
I switched addictions. From weighing foods, tracking macros, writing down my workouts, trying out different substances, journaling about how I feel on them and of course I've been insecure in my own skin for decades. Oh well. I consider myself sober. I've been sober from alcohol, weed and cocaine since 99, but I'm still addicted... at least outwardly I have it together. ... oh yeah I still fantasize about ephedra though.... if they would just legalize that.

Totally get the addiction thing. I’ve been called a “serial obessionist,” going from hockey to rugby to skiing to hunting to flying to triathlon (the biggest and longest one for me) to now enjoying quite a few of these at a lower intensity level - except that lifting is now that thing for me for several years now. This one has legs, and I’m more obsessed than addicted - but that might just be the choice of words lol


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