Why do you use AAS?

[BulkBeastJT]

honestly for me it was just about not wanting to be average anymore lol. i spent years grinding away as a natty and got to a decent spot but i hit that wall where no matter how perfect the diet or training was the scale just wouldnt move without me getting fat. once i saw what a little extra test could do for my recovery and mood it was like a lightbulb went off. now it’s basically just about the challenge of seeing how far i can push my physique while i’m still young enough to enjoy it. plus lets be real—feeling like a superhero in the gym is a hell of a drug. sounds like you’ve got a solid plan though especially coming from that endurance background. those triathletes are usually tough as nails so adding some real mass to that frame is gonna make you feel unstoppable. keep grinding man!

 

[McPriimate]

honestly for me it was just about not wanting to be average anymore lol. i spent years grinding away as a natty and got to a decent spot but i hit that wall where no matter how perfect the diet or training was the scale just wouldnt move without me getting fat. once i saw what a little extra test could do for my recovery and mood it was like a lightbulb went off. now it’s basically just about the challenge of seeing how far i can push my physique while i’m still young enough to enjoy it. plus lets be real—feeling like a superhero in the gym is a hell of a drug. sounds like you’ve got a solid plan though especially coming from that endurance background. those triathletes are usually tough as nails so adding some real mass to that frame is gonna make you feel unstoppable. keep grinding man!

You’re 100% right about how it feels. At 5’8”, my long course race weight was 158-159, short course/oly race weight was more like 162. I’m now high 180’s after this last bulk and “fat” at just under 11%. And I feel like a fucking tank! Bullet proof compared to the tri build feeling (could swim/bike/run fast and forever once in race shape, which was its own kinda fun)

Feels like I could just walk through walls - although I’d hate to try to race even like a 5k as dragging all this around would suck! Figured body weight was about 2-2.5 seconds per pound per mile for me running. Huge difference between 158 and 188, especially on long course!

Even when I was playing rugby as a wing forward I was tops like 175, maybe 180 once in a while. Had three v quick steps and could hit hard, but could not run a long time or hang with the really big guys (8’s etc). Sort of between tri and lifting

The human body is an absolutely amazing machine. Love this phase of pushing for something new.

Oh, and like others have said - vanity isn’t a small piece of it. I like this look a LOT better than the stringy, wiry, almost gaunt tri look! The wife does too, but I’m closing in on her limit for mass (think 190 and lean might be about all she likes - but hey, turn out the lights and she’ll be fine… pass the NPP! )


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[DadBod45]

Best time to plant a tree? 20 years ago.
Second best time? Today.

It's never too late to get back after it. Hope you get that 2012 size back!

But even if you don't, there's got to be some satisfaction in winning the "best avatar" on the board lol. Eat healthy

It’s gluten free….

 

[rawbuilt]

to look like a freak

 

[19NorFan]

Gear makes me a better person.

I feel better, I look better, am way more disciplined, more motivated, and just idk how to explain, natty life sucks.

 

[oldbull]

You’re 100% right about how it feels. At 5’8”, my long course race weight was 158-159, short course/oly race weight was more like 162. I’m now high 180’s after this last bulk and “fat” at just under 11%. And I feel like a fucking tank! Bullet proof compared to the tri build feeling (could swim/bike/run fast and forever once in race shape, which was its own kinda fun)

Feels like I could just walk through walls - although I’d hate to try to race even like a 5k as dragging all this around would suck! Figured body weight was about 2-2.5 seconds per pound per mile for me running. Huge difference between 158 and 188, especially on long course!

Even when I was playing rugby as a wing forward I was tops like 175, maybe 180 once in a while. Had three v quick steps and could hit hard, but could not run a long time or hang with the really big guys (8’s etc). Sort of between tri and lifting

The human body is an absolutely amazing machine. Love this phase of pushing for something new.

Oh, and like others have said - vanity isn’t a small piece of it. I like this look a LOT better than the stringy, wiry, almost gaunt tri look! The wife does too, but I’m closing in on her limit for mass (think 190 and lean might be about all she likes - but hey, turn out the lights and she’ll be fine… pass the NPP! )


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Man, I wish I felt like a tank on gear, like I did naturally when I was younger. Quite frankly, I don’t notice much difference in energy, sex drive or mood at all. It does make me gain strength faster, and my shoulder impingement went away, but still very far from feeling like a tank.

I wonder how much of it is psychological — you expect to feel like a tank, so you do. I have concluded a major reason if not the main reason for my sex drive problem is psychological.
Another possibility is the decades of boozing have fucked something up physically that prevent that wonderful “tank” feeling. Perhaps I do feel like a tank, but only if it has run out of gas and has rusty tracks…

 

[McPriimate]

Man, I wish I felt like a tank on gear, like I did naturally when I was younger. Quite frankly, I don’t notice much difference in energy, sex drive or mood at all. It does make me gain strength faster, and my shoulder impingement went away, but still very far from feeling like a tank.

I wonder how much of it is psychological — you expect to feel like a tank, so you do. I have concluded a major reason if not the main reason for my sex drive problem is psychological.
Another possibility is the decades of boozing have fucked something up physically that prevent that wonderful “tank” feeling. Perhaps I do feel like a tank, but only if it has run out of gas and has rusty tracks…

I think a lot of the “tankiness” is maybe that I’m comparing to how I felt when my testosterone levels dropped from normal to low. Over several years it just felt like a gear was slipping, then that I lost my top end gear - then gears. About the only thing on the list for low t symptoms I didn’t have was ED, so I just didn’t think that was it until one day it clicked and I got tested. I also thought my libido was normal, but turned out that it was low, but for both me and my then just about menopausal wife so we didn’t really notice. We both went on hrt and then it was like bam, we remembered how it felt before (sorry it didn’t work like that for you).

So maybe I don’t feel all thaaaat different when it comes to just being physical? But the energy, focus, mood, drive, sex drive - all that stuff is back to what I was in my 30’s and 40’s (was a beast in many ways back then). Huge difference.

And the physical thing is maybe no more “potent” than when I was in top form racing. But strength just feels different to me than endurance. Both are important, but this is pretty cool - and new to me in a relative sense

Maybe you don’t feel as much of a tank because when you were younger you were already this kind of tank, but a newer one? The difference might be more stark to me because it’s, well, more different for me than you (in a lifetime kind of way)?

I’d bet dimes to donuts that if I tried to get back into competitive endurance racing, all I’d notice (even on gear) is that I couldn’t hit any of my previous power, paces or training volumes. Being 40 and having normal test and years and years of base means you can do stuff at that peak that you just can’t 20 years later - even with enhancement. I’d also feel like a rusty, beat up tank almost for sure

Maybe you should try triathlon lol. Kidding - the world doesn’t need another douchebag


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[Glycomann]

I started lifting weights at 12 years old. Joined my first gym at 15. Trained natural until 27. I trained Judo for a long time. Tore a meniscus and it wouldn't heal for 1.5 years even after surgery. I did a cycle of 200 mg/w deca and 15 - 20 mg/d dianabol. It healed and I put 70 lbs on my bench. i cycled on and off until 37. Then went off for 10 years. Went back on when my body started to slow down. I stopped it from slowing down. Now I'm 64 and I'm a little rough around the edges. Test and a little GH keeps the edges smoother than they would be. Add a little Primo or Mast and I still have to beat the women back with a switch. Freakin' bisches!

 

[oldbull]

I think a lot of the “tankiness” is maybe that I’m comparing to how I felt when my testosterone levels dropped from normal to low. Over several years it just felt like a gear was slipping, then that I lost my top end gear - then gears. About the only thing on the list for low t symptoms I didn’t have was ED, so I just didn’t think that was it until one day it clicked and I got tested. I also thought my libido was normal, but turned out that it was low, but for both me and my then just about menopausal wife so we didn’t really notice. We both went on hrt and then it was like bam, we remembered how it felt before (sorry it didn’t work like that for you).

So maybe I don’t feel all thaaaat different when it comes to just being physical? But the energy, focus, mood, drive, sex drive - all that stuff is back to what I was in my 30’s and 40’s (was a beast in many ways back then). Huge difference.

And the physical thing is maybe no more “potent” than when I was in top form racing. But strength just feels different to me than endurance. Both are important, but this is pretty cool - and new to me in a relative sense

Maybe you don’t feel as much of a tank because when you were younger you were already this kind of tank, but a newer one? The difference might be more stark to me because it’s, well, more different for me than you (in a lifetime kind of way)?

I’d bet dimes to donuts that if I tried to get back into competitive endurance racing, all I’d notice (even on gear) is that I couldn’t hit any of my previous power, paces or training volumes. Being 40 and having normal test and years and years of base means you can do stuff at that peak that you just can’t 20 years later - even with enhancement. I’d also feel like a rusty, beat up tank almost for sure

Maybe you should try triathlon lol. Kidding - the world doesn’t need another douchebag


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Unfortunately the lack of “tankiness” probably has to do with long term damage from the booze.

Even up until my mid-30s, I was able to get shitfaced drunk at night and get up in the morning and lift weights hard. I definitely felt like a tank back then — basically indestructible. Could get a boner like flipping a light switch. Damn I miss those days.

But the booze took its toll and if I drank 1/3 as much now as back then, I would probably die within a year. That’s not hyperbole, as an old drinking buddy of mine just keeled over from liver failure. He was still more or less fine, didn’t think he was dying by any means, until suddenly he got really sick and died in 3 weeks.

Anyway, I was fortunate in that I lost my cravings for alcohol — just made me feel tired and sleepy, not like a million bucks back in the day. It even started tasting gross. I consider it a miracle of sorts. I can still drink a beer or two and all it does is remind me why I don’t like it.

The problem, as I have been able to figure out and have related elsewhere on this forum, is that 99% of the times I had sex, I was drunk. Now that I don’t drink, I feel like I can’t relax or really be in the moment — even when I am in the mood and my wife lets me get on top of her, it is like a small fraction of the experience it used to be.

Viagra and the other boner pills didn’t help, neither has gear. But I still wake up in the middle of the night with a hard-on — I just can’t summon it at will anymore.

Lol, probably the reason I keep yapping about this issue on this forum is because I would literally tell nobody who actually knows who I am about the problem. I don’t even really discuss it with my wife. To be honest, for a while it sucked all the joy out of my life, but now I am more or less used to it…

 

[ClangCole]

Hello! First time poster, recent arrival here.

I know why I want to use AAS, and it’s because I’ve never just gone for it. I’ve never reached for something that at first glance, or even after years of seeing absolute units, seems so far out of reach for me.

Over the past 10 years I’ve had kids, gotten lazy, and gotten fatter than I’ve ever been. Only like 230, but at 5’10” it looks like shit. Haha.

So, I want to be a beast. I’m starting at ground zero. I plan on getting back to baseline and build a solid foundation over the next year. And somewhere past the year mark, possibly venture into AAS.

If I can, I’d like to ask: is AAS something I should even consider? I’m a relatively normal dude. No health issues beyond Low T. But, is AAS something that’s gonna derail my life? I’m down to commit and do it the best I can, but am I gonna end up on dialysis or in a wheelchair regardless?

Anyway, long read, sorry. Any info is greatly appreciated.