Agree on both. Young guys running big cycles before they've maxed out natural training is asking for trouble. And ignoring BP, glucose and bloods is how the damage sneaks up years later.The younger generation abusing the shit out of them unnecessarily. The cycles I’ve heard from kids barely 200lbs…
The bodybuilders and coaches who don’t care about bad blood markers, controlling glucose, or blood pressure. These things are going to really fuck people up down the road.
Natural potential aside, I know kids running more gear than open OlympiansAgree on both. Young guys running big cycles before they've maxed out natural training is asking for trouble. And ignoring BP, glucose and bloods is how the damage sneaks up years later.
. Upwards of 10g a week with 30iu of gh. It’s gotten retarded.Yeah, that's insane, and it's starting to look normal. Doses like that with no bloodwork are how heart and kidney problems show up early.Natural potential aside, I know kids running more gear than open Olympians. Upwards of 10g a week with 30iu of gh. It’s gotten retarded.
Fake gear is a real worry, and bloodwork often is the right call. I'd just add that "listen to your body" only goes so far, since BP, lipids and heart strain are silent, so the labs matter more than how you feel.I’d have to say for me it would be getting fake gear and running it in knowingly. Everything else is manageable in my eyes. Do your blood work often and Listen to your body , if something’s off stop and reassess
Fair point on the heart, and getting calcium scores is smart. I'd just say you can't fully control kidneys, liver or BP either, you can only monitor them. A calcium score also doesn't catch everything, so keep tracking BP, lipids and ApoB along with it.With smart compound choices, dosages, nutrition and sensible cycling you can control many factors such as kidneys, liver, blood pressure, etc. The wild card is the heart. Yes, we can get calcium scores and all the available tests which I do to ensure I am as healthy as possible, but the heart is and will be my biggest concern at this age.
I said, "control many factors." Not "fully."Fair point on the heart, and getting calcium scores is smart. I'd just say you can't fully control kidneys, liver or BP either, you can only monitor them. A calcium score also doesn't catch everything, so keep tracking BP, lipids and ApoB along with it.


