Even 15 or 20 mg it makes me queasy after three or four days, I have two brand new bottles sitting here that I would give away because I hate it so much, when I was younger, I ran 100 mg a day without too many side effects. I was young and stupid at the time and although it got me ripped it gave me zero mass gains and I looked like a holocaust survivor that did nothing but calisthenics, I used to experiment and do stupid shit when I was younger, and I did a anavar only cycle @ 100 mgs a day . my dick stopped working and you couldn’t even tell I worked out with my shirt on. It made me super lean and shredded, but no size gain if anything it made me smaller.i even did primo only cycle and it basically did the same shit to me lol, I was 145 pounds wet and you could’ve probably seen my heart beating through my chest