Urgent help Tren, Stanozolol, Primabolan

[tomderstoffer]

Hello community!

I need some urgent help. I started a new cycle theee days ago. I read some scary things about the things I take. I want the opinion of you experts regarding my stack.

It is my third time taking roids. First cycle was 6 months (testo e 250mg/each 5days) + Dianabol pills 10mg 2 each day for 30days. Second cycle was 6 months (testo e 250mg/each 5days)

Before my first cycle I was already training 9 years. I am 183, 88kg right now. Peak was 93kg /10% body fat. I will attach pictures as well. Now I am 27 years old.

My new stack is all injectables.
Monday and Thursday: 100mg of Trenbolon and 100mg of Winstrol
Tuesday: 100mg of Primabolon.

Best form and current form is attached. The roids as well. I never had any side effects of in or after my cycles. Blood work was good. The last 6 months I was not training good that is my form is fucked up and I’m more skinny fat as you can see. Right now I have time to train and eat good.

What can you recommend me? I just injected once and I am thinking about to stop because I heard about psychological side effects like that you will never get the same after tanking Tren. What do you think about that? Is this also with this low dose stack applied? Is the combination smart? Should I get rid of one of these roids? Pleasers me know what you think!

I want to eat 2100calories 210g proteins. 80g fats. 150g carbs

Kind regards
Tom

 

[JC33]

You’re fine a lot of shit you read is blown out of proportion. Start with a low moderate dose and see how you react. If you hate it, stop. If you love it, great.

 

[Thechemicals]

You took it then read about it. Hmm.
Like he said, most is blow. Out of proportion

 

[Wardamn]

Stop taking them and educate yourself. You've got no idea what you're doing.

 

[tomderstoffer]

You’re fine a lot of shit you read is blown out of proportion. Start with a low moderate dose and see how you react. If you hate it, stop. If you love it, great.

Thanks a lot for the helpful answer! What is in your opinion a low dose? Should I really take all of them?

 

[tomderstoffer]

You took it then read about it. Hmm.
Like he said, most is blow. Out of proportion

So no answer, except “read about it”?

 

[Wardamn]

Thanks a lot for the helpful answer! What is in your opinion a low dose? Should I really take all of them?

You shouldn't be taking any of them. You don't even know how to use them in a proper dosing schedule. Not to mention no test as a base.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Education is paramount in this environment. I'm sorry but did you not fully research the hormones prior to deciding your cycle. I'm not trying to bash you but please educate yourself prior to putting anything in your body.

 

[Skinnyguy180]

couple of things. Your "current condition" and "best condition" are very far apart. Like far enough that I wouldnt even bother with with steroids. especially if the "best" condition was natty and now you are on your third cycle.

I would stop the cycle and get at least close to you "best" pic before throwing money down the drain.

Since your not going to do that.

You dont have test in your cycle? is that a typo? and your doses and timing suck! its clear you dont know enough about esters and half life. also jumping from test only cycle to 4 compounds is a bit extreme.

Tren Ace needs to be pinned Ideally every day. but at least once every 2 days.
Winny oil is brutal. but also needs ED or prework out pinning. I would have gone with the oral.
Primo I would pin twice a week but a 100 mgs is not going to do shit IMHO

Basically the cycle you laid out and the way you laid it out is garbage.

 

[JJB1]

Inject winstrol/stanazol is one of my all time favorite AAS. The results are incredible and the only negative for me was that I liked it so much I stayed on for 5 months straight and ended up getting injured. Stanazol is notorious for injuries to ligaments and tendons but I think it’s safe taken for a few months at a time.
Tren is incredible! Start low dose and if you start not liking the way you feel psychologically then stop. I used tren for years.
Primobolan to me is too weak to do anything meaningful.

 

[Skinnyguy180]

also dont keep your steroids in the fridge.... Seems dumb to say but I saw a fridge door in the back ground of all you steron pics.

 

[Thechemicals]

So no answer, except “read about it”?

I should have been clear I apologize.
Don't ever take anything without reading about it first. You word for word said you started taking gear and 3 days later started to read up on it. That's how people make decisions they regret later or worse don't have the chance to even regret it.

 

[macedog24]

Hello community!

I need some urgent help. I started a new cycle theee days ago. I read some scary things about the things I take. I want the opinion of you experts regarding my stack.

It is my third time taking roids. First cycle was 6 months (testo e 250mg/each 5days) + Dianabol pills 10mg 2 each day for 30days. Second cycle was 6 months (testo e 250mg/each 5days)

Before my first cycle I was already training 9 years. I am 183, 88kg right now. Peak was 93kg /10% body fat. I will attach pictures as well. Now I am 27 years old.

My new stack is all injectables.
Monday and Thursday: 100mg of Trenbolon and 100mg of Winstrol
Tuesday: 100mg of Primabolon.

Best form and current form is attached. The roids as well. I never had any side effects of in or after my cycles. Blood work was good. The last 6 months I was not training good that is my form is fucked up and I’m more skinny fat as you can see. Right now I have time to train and eat good.

What can you recommend me? I just injected once and I am thinking about to stop because I heard about psychological side effects like that you will never get the same after tanking Tren. What do you think about that? Is this also with this low dose stack applied? Is the combination smart? Should I get rid of one of these roids? Pleasers me know what you think!

I want to eat 2100calories 210g proteins. 80g fats. 150g carbs

Kind regards
Tom

I don't know if this is for real or not..
It all seems so wrong unless your just trying to promote that brand of products.

You definitely need to slow down and take a deep breath . Get your ducks in a row and do some more research on what your doing safely and correctly..
Your first cycle was test and dbol for 4 weeks only? 6 months ago.
But your second cycle was 6 months ago also?
Or are you saying your cycles have been 6 months long each?
Do you know anything about half life's how long these products stay in your system, the proper way to run a cycle , a proper pinning schedule? Using some form of test as a base. Having support products on hand.
Cycle support, Ai 's etc. Pct etc ?
Are you taking time off between cycles or constantly on?

 

[chadmack]

Stop taking them and educate yourself. You've got no idea what you're doing.

bingo, this is frightening.

 

[GrindingGray]

Urgent help? You had plenty of time to research each compound- their dosage, side effects, etc. You obviously purchased the stuff. You’ve started a cycle. Yet it’s urgent right now to know our opinion on what you are taking??

This is the problem today. When I first started taking gear there wasn’t the internet and dozens of online companies. Now anyone can order shit but it seems like nobody uses Google to actually learn about what they are about to take.

 

[tomderstoffer]

couple of things. Your "current condition" and "best condition" are very far apart. Like far enough that I wouldnt even bother with with steroids. especially if the "best" condition was natty and now you are on your third cycle.

I would stop the cycle and get at least close to you "best" pic before throwing money down the drain.

Since your not going to do that.

You dont have test in your cycle? is that a typo? and your doses and timing suck! its clear you dont know enough about esters and half life. also jumping from test only cycle to 4 compounds is a bit extreme.

Tren Ace needs to be pinned Ideally every day. but at least once every 2 days.
Winny oil is brutal. but also needs ED or prework out pinning. I would have gone with the oral.
Primo I would pin twice a week but a 100 mgs is not going to do shit IMHO

Basically the cycle you laid out and the way you laid it out is garbage.

Thanks for the answer.

I would not say my form is far away from my best form (no. the best form was on the peak of my second cycle 93kg).
Attached is a picture from today today (leg day) -> It is also not the best lightning and since I just injected the first time 60hours ago I would still say that is my natural physique after not touching steroid for 10 months. The picture from the thread above was with really bad lightning and no pump at all.

Test is not in my cycle because I only want to do a fast cut 6-8 weeks and then clean bulking with test again.

Can you recommend a better timing and dosage for Tren? every 2 days with a smaller dosage - like 50mg?
Winny - what do you mean with prework out pinning? but the timing and dosage is good? I have no problems with injections or any pain.
Primo - should I just leave it away? Will it be harmful that I already took it once?

Thanks for the information!!! You are allowed to roast me haha

 

[Jbswole40]

You shouldn't be taking any of them. You don't even know how to use them in a proper dosing schedule. Not to mention no test as a base.

Ok..I thought I missed it,my thought the test

 

[tomderstoffer]

Inject winstrol/stanazol is one of my all time favorite AAS. The results are incredible and the only negative for me was that I liked it so much I stayed on for 5 months straight and ended up getting injured. Stanazol is notorious for injuries to ligaments and tendons but I think it’s safe taken for a few months at a time.
Tren is incredible! Start low dose and if you start not liking the way you feel psychologically then stop. I used tren for years.
Primobolan to me is too weak to do anything meaningful.

Sounds good!
1. Any advices for dosage and timing of injecting winstrol? 6 to 8 weeks is my plan.
2. What advices you have for Tren if you say small doses?
3. Would you recommend me just to get rid of it in this stack?

Thanks a lot for your answer!

 

[tomderstoffer]

also dont keep your steroids in the fridge.... Seems dumb to say but I saw a fridge door in the back ground of all you steron pics.

put them out of the fridge now

 

[tomderstoffer]

I don't know if this is for real or not..
It all seems so wrong unless your just trying to promote that brand of products.

You definitely need to slow down and take a deep breath . Get your ducks in a row and do some more research on what your doing safely and correctly..
Your first cycle was test and dbol for 4 weeks only? 6 months ago.
But your second cycle was 6 months ago also?
Or are you saying your cycles have been 6 months long each?
Do you know anything about half life's how long these products stay in your system, the proper way to run a cycle , a proper pinning schedule? Using some form of test as a base. Having support products on hand.
Cycle support, Ai 's etc. Pct etc ?
Are you taking time off between cycles or constantly on?

not promoting the brands at all. I also can not say if there are good or not. They sold them in a pharmacy in Mexico.

sorry it was unclear. BOTH cycles were 6 months long. DBOL I only took in the first 4 weeks.

I did my blood work before and after (2 months) every cycle and it was always good. Never had any problems at all. Do you think testo as a base is necassary for this short period of cutting cycle (6-8 weeks)?

I have aromatase inhibitors (translated from google)

Post cycle I have tamox and clomid but I would only take it if its necassary. What would you say?

1. cycle 01.2021-06.2021 2. Cycle 09.2022 - 03.2023

 

[Astro95]

Test is not in my cycle because I only want to do a fast cut 6-8 weeks and then clean bulking with test again.

This is not how this works.

I’d be more worried about the gear being legit tbh, being xt labs.

 

[01dragonslayer]

This is not how this works.

I’d be more worried about the gear being legit tbh, being xt labs.

I've seen test results of some XT products that were way under dosed.

 

[tomderstoffer]

This is not how this works.

I’d be more worried about the gear being legit tbh, being xt labs.

Then how it works? Why would you recommend me to add test in this cycle?

 

[Syntha Claus]

XT in Mexico is most likely as legit as it gets.
Testosterone should only be used in a bulk because it makes you fat. Winstrol is best injected twice a week.

I use Ironic Labz and coaching.

 

[Skinnyguy180]

Thanks for the answer.

I would not say my form is far away from my best form (no. the best form was on the peak of my second cycle 93kg).
Attached is a picture from today today (leg day) -> It is also not the best lightning and since I just injected the first time 60hours ago I would still say that is my natural physique after not touching steroid for 10 months. The picture from the thread above was with really bad lightning and no pump at all.

Test is not in my cycle because I only want to do a fast cut 6-8 weeks and then clean bulking with test again.

Can you recommend a better timing and dosage for Tren? every 2 days with a smaller dosage - like 50mg?
Winny - what do you mean with prework out pinning? but the timing and dosage is good? I have no problems with injections or any pain.
Primo - should I just leave it away? Will it be harmful that I already took it once?

Thanks for the information!!! You are allowed to roast me haha

First, you need to add testosterone.
Tren- I would do it at least every 2 days but really it should be done everyday so like 25 mgs a day
winny- I would just pin an hour before my work out and only on work out days(for me)

So my drug schedule would look like this if I lifted 7 days a week.

Monday 1 hour before workout inject- 25mg tren 25 mg winny and 250 mg test E
Tuesday 1 hour before workout inject- 25mg tren 25 mg winny
Wednesday1 hour before workout inject- 25mg tren 25 mg winny
Thursday 1 hour before workout inject- 25mg tren 25 mg winny and 250 mg test E
Friday 1 hour before workout inject- 25mg tren 25 mg winny
Saturday 1 hour before workout inject- 25mg tren 25 mg winny
Sunday 1 hour before workout inject- 25mg tren 25 mg winny

This would be
500mg test e a week
175 mg tren ace a week
25 mg winny only on work out days

I would leave room to add tren later...starting low

 

[Astro95]

Then how it works? Why would you recommend me to add test in this cycle?

Because what you’re taking will shut down your natural test production… so you need exogenous test.

 

[JJB1]

Sounds good!
1. Any advices for dosage and timing of injecting winstrol? 6 to 8 weeks is my plan.
2. What advices you have for Tren if you say small doses?
3. Would you recommend me just to get rid of it in this stack?

Thanks a lot for your answer!

I would start low with 50mg winstrol administered EOD.
With the tren I’d start with only 25mg EOD.
Primobolan does absolutely nothing for me. I’d switch that out for 50mg testosterone propionate EOD. The testosterone and winstrol would be no issues for 8 weeks. With tren it’s hard to say how it will affect you. When i just started tren I was raging all the time especially while driving. It’s very easy to snap on people if they are disrespectful or argumentative. As long as you feel good then keep going for the 8 weeks. If you start to feel it’s overwhelming emotionally or physically then drop it immediately. You can always alter your plan and adapt it any time things don’t feel right.

 

[JJB1]

Also, I would up your calories to 6 meals, or 3 protein shakes and 3 meals, each consisting of 500 calories. 2,100 calories is too low to make the most of the anabolic state you will be in. You have to feed the body, small clean meals or protein shakes, every 2-3 hours. Food is truly the most important part! Increase your complex carb intake.

 

[tomderstoffer]

XT in Mexico is most likely as legit as it gets.
Testosterone should only be used in a bulk because it makes you fat. Winstrol is best injected twice a week.

I use Ironic Labz and coaching.

right now you are the only one who is not recommending to add testo. Why?

 

[tomderstoffer]

Because what you’re taking will shut down your natural test production… so you need exogenous test.

I understand. Can I do a low dose Enathate like before - 250mg each 5 days - or what do you think?