TRT & Reta? Reta dosing?

[MoreTestHairyChest]

I’ve been on TRT for the last few months and want to do a cycle of reta to lean up.

Trying to find the best dosing to dial it in for 8-12 weeks. Can anyone provide feedback or a guide they followed successfully?

36 year old male - 18-20% BF - strict nutrition and fitness

Thanks

 

[BFulforth]

I’ve been on TRT for the last few months and want to do a cycle of reta to lean up.

Trying to find the best dosing to dial it in for 8-12 weeks. Can anyone provide feedback or a guide they followed successfully?

36 year old male - 18-20% BF - strict nutrition and fitness

Thanks

The Reta trials started at 2mg once per week.
I started at 1mg twice per week. And after 4 weeks moved up another mg.
Now I just pin once per week. Every Sunday.
A lot of folks start off at like .5mg to test tolerance and they are seeing results.
The lowest possible dose that works is always a good starting point. Reta is supposed to be one of those long term/titrate up slowly schedules.


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[MoreTestHairyChest]

The Reta trials started at 2mg once per week.
I started at 1mg twice per week. And after 4 weeks moved up another mg.
Now I just pin once per week. Every Sunday.
A lot of folks start off at like .5mg to test tolerance and they are seeing results.
The lowest possible dose that works is always a good starting point. Reta is supposed to be one of those long term/titrate up slowly schedules.


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Awesome thank you. I’d probably start at .5mg to see where I’m at. I’m doing a bunch of research on it now, I’m seeing from the vendor I’ve used for past products that I can get Reta 10mg or Reta with BAC water at 10mg (which is literally 10x the cost).

Did you prep it yourself or get a full kit ?

 

[BFulforth]

Awesome thank you. I’d probably start at .5mg to see where I’m at. I’m doing a bunch of research on it now, I’m seeing from the vendor I’ve used for past products that I can get Reta 10mg or Reta with BAC water at 10mg (which is literally 10x the cost).

Did you prep it yourself or get a full kit ?

.5 is a good starting point, just to see if you get any unwanted reactions from it.
I only use Hospira bac water for everything. Never vendor bac water.
The stuff I get is 30mg per vial because my wife and I are both running it. She switched from Tirz so she’s at a much lower dose than I on the reta.


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[J.S.]

Yes, I would start low,the .5 looks to be a starting point for a lot of people. For myself, I found that starting at 2mg works for me, anything lower is a waste of time. Just stay patient, if you move up to fast your more then likely going to pay the price for a few days, ask me how I know, lol.

 

[J.S.]

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Awesome thank you. I’d probably start at .5mg to see where I’m at. I’m doing a bunch of research on it now, I’m seeing from the vendor I’ve used for past products that I can get Reta 10mg or Reta with BAC water at 10mg (which is literally 10x the cost).

Did you prep it yourself or get a full kit ?

I bought 2, 10mg vials my first time. Remember, if it works for you at .5 ,that’s per week and it could be effective for a month or more. Even at 2mg that’s a months worth. I bought BAC water and mixed it myself, 1 ml BAC to 10 mg Reta, google it, lots of info on how to do it, it’s easy.

 

[MoreTestHairyChest]

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I bought 2, 10mg vials my first time. Remember, if it works for you at .5 ,that’s per week and it could be effective for a month or more. Even at 2mg that’s a months worth. I bought BAC water and mixed it myself, 1 ml BAC to 10 mg Reta, google it, lots of info on how to do it, it’s easy.

Awesome thanks. I’m going to order it now.

 

[elit3keraed]

I went from .5 to 2 increasing by .5 (took 5 weeks cuz week 4 I did 1.5 instead of 2). After my 2 weeks at 2 I started doing E6D dosing (half life is 6 days and my hunger was getting higher by day 5).

Went up to 2.5 about 18 days ago. Going to 3 in a week.


I’m on week 10 right now. I’ve seen results as low as .5 BUT there’s a dramatic difference between 2.5 and .5.

If you’re dialed in, .5 will be great as it’s got a strong nutrient partitioning effect. At higher dosages, assuming sides are not an issue, it’s almost too good to be true. I have actually gone as high as 3k calories for a week and still saw a massive shift in my body comp. I’ve never before gone to bed looking pumped and full only to wake up the next morning looking like I’ve been low carb for months. It’s potent.


I agree with lowest affective dose for a lot of things but honestly, lowest dose you can go without causing any issues has been my opinion with Reta. If your digestion is good, you’re not losing strength in the gym and everything else is going well, then titrate up. If you start getting any sides then drop back a bit.

Friend of mine is on .5m every week and has been for 10 weeks. Down 18lbs. She went up to 1 for 2 weeks and felt nauseous non stop. So she went back down and still continued to drop weight with it.

 

[MoreTestHairyChest]

I went from .5 to 2 increasing by .5 (took 5 weeks cuz week 4 I did 1.5 instead of 2). After my 2 weeks at 2 I started doing E6D dosing (half life is 6 days and my hunger was getting higher by day 5).

Went up to 2.5 about 18 days ago. Going to 3 in a week.


I’m on week 10 right now. I’ve seen results as low as .5 BUT there’s a dramatic difference between 2.5 and .5.

If you’re dialed in, .5 will be great as it’s got a strong nutrient partitioning effect. At higher dosages, assuming sides are not an issue, it’s almost too good to be true. I have actually gone as high as 3k calories for a week and still saw a massive shift in my body comp. I’ve never before gone to bed looking pumped and full only to wake up the next morning looking like I’ve been low carb for months. It’s potent.


I agree with lowest affective dose for a lot of things but honestly, lowest dose you can go without causing any issues has been my opinion with Reta. If your digestion is good, you’re not losing strength in the gym and everything else is going well, then titrate up. If you start getting any sides then drop back a bit.

Friend of mine is on .5m every week and has been for 10 weeks. Down 18lbs. She went up to 1 for 2 weeks and felt nauseous non stop. So she went back down and still continued to drop weight with it.

How is your appetite ?

 

[elit3keraed]

How is your appetite ?

Honestly fine. I will easily forget to eat or drink water throughout the day because food and cravings are gone. I have had a few times where I have been absolutely starving but that’s typically near the end of the week when my next shot would be due (alleviated this by shooting at 6 days so now I just get some mild hunger day 5).

One big thing is that despite being able to eat a good size meal (like 500g rice and 12oz top sirloin) I typically just hit a point where im like “nah im good I don’t need more”. Which is so weird to me because I grew up in a “you eat everything on your plate” household. So to just be able to put my fork down and feel satisfied instead of eating till I’m disgusted with myself is a huge change.

Even my “cheat meals” have changed to things like a bowl from chipotle. Double steak, double black beans, a scoop of corn and then 200g of romaine vs pasta cheat meals that would be a chili dog and fries or a bacon cheeseburger or something more greasy/fatty. I crave very little in terms of junk or sweets.

 

[MoreTestHairyChest]

Honestly fine. I will easily forget to eat or drink water throughout the day because food and cravings are gone. I have had a few times where I have been absolutely starving but that’s typically near the end of the week when my next shot would be due (alleviated this by shooting at 6 days so now I just get some mild hunger day 5).

One big thing is that despite being able to eat a good size meal (like 500g rice and 12oz top sirloin) I typically just hit a point where im like “nah im good I don’t need more”. Which is so weird to me because I grew up in a “you eat everything on your plate” household. So to just be able to put my fork down and feel satisfied instead of eating till I’m disgusted with myself is a huge change.

Even my “cheat meals” have changed to things like a bowl from chipotle. Double steak, double black beans, a scoop of corn and then 200g of romaine vs pasta cheat meals that would be a chili dog and fries or a bacon cheeseburger or something more greasy/fatty. I crave very little in terms of junk or sweets.

Yea that’s awesome. Appreciate the help bro

 

[Algz]

I use 1mg every 6 days past month or so it’s plenty did exactly what I wanted and very strong.. My wife has taken it awhile and takes like 6mg wk I’m not sure how she’s alive.. lol

 

[MrWhisper]

I have used GLPs for years as well as TRT. I stared Reta at 2mg and within a month went to 5mg. This right here is my sweet spot. I can dose 1Xs per week as it’s supposed to be rather than dosed 2-3 Xs per week under most current bro science. This protocol works for me all week with no issues.

 

[Boosted393]

8 months on Reta, started at 1mg now at 6mg weekly. I can say from myself and a lot of people around me using it everyone handles it differently and has small but different sides. The wife gets a small headache the day after. I don't have any myself luckily. Take one huge thing into consideration is (blood glucose) starting on Reta and doing a small run like yourself shouldn't be any problem. Going from 243lbs to 166lbs started to feel like shit and have these odd spells come to find out I went from pre diabetic to hypo was running 57 to 52 in the mornings fixed that issue and now my bloods look great even in cycles for the most part. Off blood pressure meds and migraine meds the doctor was asking me multiple times what all I changed


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[BFulforth]

Awesome thank you. I’d probably start at .5mg to see where I’m at. I’m doing a bunch of research on it now, I’m seeing from the vendor I’ve used for past products that I can get Reta 10mg or Reta with BAC water at 10mg (which is literally 10x the cost).

Did you prep it yourself or get a full kit ?

I get it from a coworker who orders in multiple kits and he doesn’t up charge


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[MoreTestHairyChest]

8 months on Reta, started at 1mg now at 6mg weekly. I can say from myself and a lot of people around me using it everyone handles it differently and has small but different sides. The wife gets a small headache the day after. I don't have any myself luckily. Take one huge thing into consideration is (blood glucose) starting on Reta and doing a small run like yourself shouldn't be any problem. Going from 243lbs to 166lbs started to feel like shit and have these odd spells come to find out I went from pre diabetic to hypo was running 57 to 52 in the mornings fixed that issue and now my bloods look great even in cycles for the most part. Off blood pressure meds and migraine meds the doctor was asking me multiple times what all I changed


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That’s sick that you’re off all that crap. I’m ordering some Reta right now

 

[Boosted393]

That’s sick that you’re off all that crap. I’m ordering some Reta right now

Thanks brother, a good compound just pay attention to your body and anything that feels off. But any of us in these threads know that for the most part, just feel better saying it out loud. Post up on how it treats you I would like to know.


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[elit3keraed]

8 months on Reta, started at 1mg now at 6mg weekly. I can say from myself and a lot of people around me using it everyone handles it differently and has small but different sides. The wife gets a small headache the day after. I don't have any myself luckily. Take one huge thing into consideration is (blood glucose) starting on Reta and doing a small run like yourself shouldn't be any problem. Going from 243lbs to 166lbs started to feel like shit and have these odd spells come to find out I went from pre diabetic to hypo was running 57 to 52 in the mornings fixed that issue and now my bloods look great even in cycles for the most part. Off blood pressure meds and migraine meds the doctor was asking me multiple times what all I changed


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I found myself going hypo off 2mg. Can’t do whey protein without carbs anymore or I go hypo everytime. Apparently whey causes just enough of an insulin spike than now I am too sensitive. I can eat chicken or beef by itself and be fine but I learned my lesson after testing at 57 like 30 minutes post whey shake

 

[19NorFan]

I started at 2mg/week split doses. It completely muted my appetite for the first 7 weeks. 4mg is as high as I’ve gone. 4mg/week of reta + 5iu hgh daily, as long as I do an hour of fasted cardio, I can’t out eat that comination; I will not gain any noticable fat even eating at what would normally be a 1,000+ calorie per day surplus. It’s very strong.

 

[Boosted393]

I found myself going hypo off 2mg. Can’t do whey protein without carbs anymore or I go hypo everytime. Apparently whey causes just enough of an insulin spike than now I am too sensitive. I can eat chicken or beef by itself and be fine but I learned my lesson after testing at 57 like 30 minutes post whey shake

Absolutely understand that, it's definitely wild once you get into that side of running Reta. Everyone starting out hopefully understands what it really does and knows what to check besides just the scale going down.


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[Boosted393]

I started at 2mg/week split doses. It completely muted my appetite for the first 7 weeks. 4mg is as high as I’ve gone. 4mg/week of reta + 5iu hgh daily, as long as I do an hour of fasted cardio, I can’t out eat that comination; I will not gain any noticable fat even eating at what would normally be a 1,000+ calorie per day surplus. It’s very strong.

I'm stocking up to start a long run of gh myself, curious with now having low blood sugar from Reta what the addition of gh will do seeing it raises glucose. 2iu at start looking to get in the 6iu range for the long haul.


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[19NorFan]

I found myself going hypo off 2mg. Can’t do whey protein without carbs anymore or I go hypo everytime. Apparently whey causes just enough of an insulin spike than now I am too sensitive. I can eat chicken or beef by itself and be fine but I learned my lesson after testing at 57 like 30 minutes post whey shake

I'm stocking up to start a long run of gh myself, curious with now having low blood sugar from Reta what the addition of gh will do seeing it raises glucose. 2iu at start looking to get in the 6iu range for the long haul.


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At 10iu/day of hgh, my fasting blood sugar would normally go into the 100s-110s fairly quickly, like within a month. 4mg/week of tirzepatide kept it in the 90s, even in a surplus. And reta is even stronger. You probably wouldn’t need anything for glucose control.

This was without hgh but 4mg/week of reta and me being in a deficit would have my fasting blood sugar in the 75-80 range every day consistently. Within 2 hours after meals, it would be back in the 80s. It really amplifies your insulin sensitivity.

 

[Algz]

I found myself going hypo off 2mg. Can’t do whey protein without carbs anymore or I go hypo everytime. Apparently whey causes just enough of an insulin spike than now I am too sensitive. I can eat chicken or beef by itself and be fine but I learned my lesson after testing at 57 like 30 minutes post whey shake

Ok I’m not crazy. Lol

 

[elit3keraed]

Absolutely understand that, it's definitely wild once you get into that side of running Reta. Everyone starting out hopefully understands what it really does and knows what to check besides just the scale going down.


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I actually started it specifically for glucose control. My fasting insulin in January was 16 and my BG was 99. I got to like 9 and 93 right before I started Reta end of February. My CGM was sitting in the low 90s within 2 weeks BUT I found there was usually a 10 point difference between the CGM and BGM so I was lost likely sitting in the 80s.

It’s wild looking pumped and full before bed from the nutrient partitioning instead of being puffy and bloated before bed. I’m excited to get my GH and start that with the Reta. Buddy is like a week or 10 days in and has gotten even leaner but fuller off 3mg weekly and 2iu before bed.

I wanna see what I can achieve upping my calories with that combo.

 

[Boosted393]

At 10iu/day of hgh, my fasting blood sugar would normally go into the 100s-110s fairly quickly, like within a month. 4mg/week of tirzepatide kept it in the 90s, even in a surplus. And reta is even stronger. You probably wouldn’t need anything for glucose control.

This was without hgh but 4mg/week of reta and me being in a deficit would have my fasting blood sugar in the 75-80 range every day consistently. Within 2 hours after meals, it would be back in the 80s. It really amplifies your insulin sensitivity.

That's what I'm thinking the Reta will do the work of other compounds far as controlling the glucose.


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[Boosted393]

I actually started it specifically for glucose control. My fasting insulin in January was 16 and my BG was 99. I got to like 9 and 93 right before I started Reta end of February. My CGM was sitting in the low 90s within 2 weeks BUT I found there was usually a 10 point difference between the CGM and BGM so I was lost likely sitting in the 80s.

It’s wild looking pumped and full before bed from the nutrient partitioning instead of being puffy and bloated before bed. I’m excited to get my GH and start that with the Reta. Buddy is like a week or 10 days in and has gotten even leaner but fuller off 3mg weekly and 2iu before bed.

I wanna see what I can achieve upping my calories with that combo.

Sounds like what I'm thinking will happen also. Looking for the sweet spot while still being able to maintain a good diet. Also plan on dropping the Reta dosage down to 2 or 3mg and start from there 6mg is the highest I pushed on it so far and it definitely has done its job. But between gh and the next cycle, I need to be able to eat more and not trying to lose weight at this time just looking for it to help with bloods during this run.

 

[elit3keraed]

Sounds like what I'm thinking will happen also. Looking for the sweet spot while still being able to maintain a good diet. Also plan on dropping the Reta dosage down to 2 or 3mg and start from there 6mg is the highest I pushed on it so far and it definitely has done its job. But between gh and the next cycle, I need to be able to eat more and not trying to lose weight at this time just looking for it to help with bloods during this run.

Yea I definitely won’t complain about getting a little leaner. Was 13% in my last dexa down from 22 January 1.

But ultimately I want some more lean mass so if Reta starts interfering on that front I’ll definitely lower it down. As it is I run it every 6 days because when I was doing it every 7, by day 6 I could eat a horse and day 7 was even worse . I still had no food noise but was just flat out hungry

 

[WillMcG]

I'll add on here. I just started Reta about three weeks ago starting right away at 2mg/week on Sundays. Note, I've been on Saxenda and Ozempic before, so I've experienced the physical sides once you cross a certain "line", and was expecting something, anything, starting the Reta. Nope, nothing.

So, last Sunday, week 3, I already upped to 3mg, even though most suggest a slower increase. I'll do the 3mg again this Sunday, with the idea of upping to 4mgs in Week 5. Based on some comments, the 4mg might be where I notice it. I guess we'll find out.

I also just added 2iu/daily of GH, but thats another topic.

 

[elit3keraed]

I'll add on here. I just started Reta about three weeks ago starting right away at 2mg/week on Sundays. Note, I've been on Saxenda and Ozempic before, so I've experienced the physical sides once you cross a certain "line", and was expecting something, anything, starting the Reta. Nope, nothing.

So, last Sunday, week 3, I already upped to 3mg, even though most suggest a slower increase. I'll do the 3mg again this Sunday, with the idea of upping to 4mgs in Week 5. Based on some comments, the 4mg might be where I notice it. I guess we'll find out.

I also just added 2iu/daily of GH, but thats another topic.

Just wanted to say that I’ve seen a lot of anecdotal reports of people who have used GLPs in the past “needing” higher reta doses to “feel” it. Bot people who were ON and people who had done them in the past from what I saw.

Have you seen any visual changes? Or are you strictly going off feeling side effects? Reta has a much subtler appetite suppression compared to ozempic. Hell I’d say it has no suppression if everyone’s reported experiences of ozempic suppression is accurate lol.