Tren cough observation

[Nitronick60]

I have noticed that I only get tren cough when injecting into my quads. I never get it when injecting into my shoulders. Does anyone have any theories on why this may be? Has anyone had a similar experience?

 

[Halfi]

I’ve only had it happen 2-3 times. I noticed if I hit a vein i get the cough.

 

[Vision]

I have noticed that I only get tren cough when injecting into my quads. I never get it when injecting into my shoulders. Does anyone have any theories on why this may be? Has anyone had a similar experience?

Yes there's a pretty reasonable explanation, the mapping system that goes down to your legs can be pretty complexed. With all of the arteries, and all of the capillaries and whatnot, clearly and obviously the quads are massive muscles, therefore it would require a lot of blood volume. From the lymphatic system, the nerves, arteries, capillaries and whatnot, it's like several interstates all intertwined in one..

 

[Meetketchup]

Never found one injection site leads to more or less tren cough, but I will speculate. You have more capillaries/pathways in your quads due to size/surface area which could be why.

Rule #1 - Injecting quads sucks.
Rule #2 - Refer back to #1

 

[Vision]

By the way the lower you go, all the way down into the calf, it's even more complex and congested. That's why it's not advisable to even inject in that area, just want to put it out there although it wasn't talked about.
Try using muscle heads that don't have as many arteries and capillaries and whatnot, stick with the VGs when trying to minimize any onset of POME..

 

[Halfi]

Never found one injection site leads to more or less tren cough, but I will speculate. You have more capillaries/pathways in your quads due to size/surface area which could be why.

Rule #1 - Injecting quads sucks.
Rule #2 - Refer back to #1

I love quad shots. lol I must be a sick bastard

 

[Vision]

I love quad shots. lol I must be a sick bastard

I don't do bad with the IM but I absolutely hate the initial pinch when breaking that first layer of the epidermis.. That pinch gets me every time but after that it's easy peasy.

 

[Halfi]

I don't do bad with the IM but I absolutely hate the initial pinch when breaking that first layer of the epidermis.. That pinch gets me every time but after that it's easy peasy.

Oh yah some of those punches hurt like a mofo. But the injection it self not bad at all for me

 

[Vision]

Oh yah some of those punches hurt like a mofo. But the injection it self not bad at all for me

100% the injection after that pinch is no problem, but I dread that pinch bro, sometimes it hurts so fucking bad.
I won't let any compound drip on the needle when I'm doing quads. I will literally push the oil in the barrel just barely to the top. When you get some solvent on that needle tip, and you break that skin with the pinch that fucker will sting for a minute..

 

[Halfi]

100% the injection after that pinch is no problem, but I dread that pinch bro, sometimes it hurts so fucking bad.
I won't let any compound drip on the needle when I'm doing quads. I will literally push the oil in the barrel just barely to the top. When you get some solvent on that needle tip, and you break that skin with the pinch that fucker will sting for a minute..

This is what it feels like

 

[Meetketchup]

I love quad shots. lol I must be a sick bastard

For me, I'd have 15-20 or so perfect quad injections, then a bad one that would cripple me for 4 days. lol

 

[Maxwell]

@Vision I get the pinch too... I thought it was just me being a pussy tho LOL... hurts so bad

 

[tommygunz]

Secret to quad injecting is to not pussy foot around and push, you have to literally dart the pin. Once you’ve tried this you’ll see how easy it is.

lol at stinging….try a 200mg glutathione pin in your quad, there’s some stinging for you

Oh, to get back on topic…I’ve gotten tren cough everywhere I’ve pinned it

 

[Vision]

@Vision I get the pinch too... I thought it was just me being a pussy tho LOL... hurts so bad

No bro you ain't the only pussy..haha
Mind you I'm like heavily inked, like heavily, fully sleeved both sides, top of my hands, all the way up arms to my neck on both sides just under ears, chest, back stomach. But that quad pinch gets me every time.

 

[Vision]

Secret to quad injecting is to not pussy foot around and push, you have to literally dart the pin. Once you’ve tried this you’ll see how easy it is.

lol at stinging….try a 200mg glutathione pin in your quad, there’s some stinging for you

Oh, to get back on topic…I’ve gotten tren cough everywhere I’ve pinned it

This is the only way, literally, you have to just jab it, none of that slowly pushing in bullshit.
But I will admit I do go slightly slowly with the glutes..

 

[tommygunz]

This is the only way, literally, you have to just jab it, none of that slowly pushing in bullshit.
But I will admit I do go slightly slowly with the glutes..

I’m a little more precise with my glutes as well.

 

[Vision]

For me, I'd have 15-20 or so perfect quad injections, then a bad one that would cripple me for 4 days. lol

That's normally how it actually does work out, and the weird part is it can be in the same spot that the other ones were flawless..
All my quad pins are 5/8 27s
Shit feels like a fucking thumbtack..

 

[Meetketchup]

That's normally how it actually does work out, and the weird part is it can be in the same spot that the other ones were flawless..
All my quad pins are 5/8 27s
Shit feels like a fucking thumbtack..

I get that baseball sized knot type shit and literally can't walk. My psycho ass would train through it, but I just stopped pinning quads. Problem solved. lol

 

[Vision]

This is what it feels like

Here's a funny one for you.
Not sure when it was, I think it was maybe last October, I heated some oil that I was sending into the VG.. normally I'll put the barrel on the cheek of my face, so I can tell how warm it is. This time I didn't do it.
So I sent it home, I felt this god-awful pain that just progressively got worse, I was figuring within the next second or two it would dissipate, but it kept getting worse.
I recall standing in the shower holding on to that plastic handle, and I was up on my tippy toes just wincing and pain.
It felt like fucking lava..
I never felt a burn from the inside of my body before..

After that I really really really started talking to Jesus more because I was even more afraid of hell...

 

[tommygunz]

I pinned my quad once and forgot to swap the 20ga draw for a 27ga.

Moral of the story, don’t drink and pin boys and girls

 

[Vision]

I get that baseball sized knot type shit and literally can't walk. My psycho ass would train through it, but I just stopped pinning quads. Problem solved. lol

You are an absolute worrier brother hahah..
My legs aren't built to handle pain, I couldn't imagine training them.. hopping up and down getting in and out of my truck is painful enough..hahah

 

[Vision]

I pinned my quad once and forgot to swap the 20ga draw for a 27ga.

Moral of the story, don’t drink and pin boys and girls

Someone else shared a similar story here I forget who it was. Think he said it was an 18.. gosh who was it......

 

[Vision]

But truly though, I don't know how some of you guys do it when you get a welt or your leg is wrecked, yet you guys still push through training..
For my job I'm on my knees a lot (Don't get the wrong idea assholes ).. So when I get a bad injection, there's no training..

 

[Halfi]

But truly though, I don't know how some of you guys do it when you get a welt or your leg is wrecked, yet you guys still push through training..
For my job I'm on my knees a lot (Don't get the wrong idea assholes ).. So when I get a bad injection, there's no training..

On your knees praying to Jesus for better thigh injections lol

 

[Vision]

On your knees praying to Jesus for better thigh injections lol

To avoid the conversation from spiraling out of control, yeah buddy I'll go with that one... Hahah

 

[Maxwell]

I want to get tattoos I just dont really know what I want so I remain a white board.

I've had this struggle for awhile lol

 

[GYMnTONIC]

VIsion got this, its known as prostaglandin release.

Suppression of inflammation may help, so think of anti inflammatories, such as Ibuprofen, prednisone, bpc-157, etc, etc

These all are ways that may reduce the instance of Prostaglandin release, and one could certainly take 10mgs of prednisone or say 250-500mcgs shot of BPC-157 prior to help inhibit this but again Vision got it correct with the legs. Also fresh muscle tissue very often causes higher levels of prostaglandin release. IT causes asthma like symptoms. Think about other things that defeat asthma. Bronchiodiolators. So for instance EPHEDRINE. The problem being that many that use Bronk-Aid or primatene dont' realize that it has Guaifenesen which is also a small muscle relaxer. This may go against a bodybuilders direct goals even if temporary. Also it is a sulfate for anyone allergic to Sulfas. Consider that.

Vision with the excellent knowledge as always. These mods are super valuable here to everyone alike <3

 

[Vision]

VIsion got this, its known as prostaglandin release.

Suppression of inflammation may help, so think of anti inflammatories, such as Ibuprofen, prednisone, bpc-157, etc, etc

These all are ways that may reduce the instance of Prostaglandin release, and one could certainly take 10mgs of prednisone or say 250-500mcgs shot of BPC-157 prior to help inhibit this but again Vision got it correct with the legs. Also fresh muscle tissue very often causes higher levels of prostaglandin release. IT causes asthma like symptoms. Think about other things that defeat asthma. Bronchiodiolators. So for instance EPHEDRINE. The problem being that many that use Bronk-Aid or primatene dont' realize that it has Guaifenesen which is also a small muscle relaxer. This may go against a bodybuilders direct goals even if temporary. Also it is a sulfate for anyone allergic to Sulfas. Consider that.

Vision with the excellent knowledge as always. These mods are super valuable here to everyone alike <3

Precisely, very very very good feedback here, I didn't want to drop some big words on these guys because not a lot people understand or are aware of the functionalities with certain lipid or heme-enzyms and what triggers them and what not and how they can be recruited and deployed..



Wes for the knowledge bomb...

 

[tommygunz]

I’m crunching through so much scar tissue in my quads it’s ridiculous, kinda like getting a splinter in a callous…I don’t even feel it anymore give it 10-20 more years and you’ll be leather like me too

 

[Buff Bagwell]

I take all Trens, i have no idea about this tren cough some of you get. however, my cat got into my tren once and fuckin thing walk around coughing in kitchen all fucken night.