I was at a show about a month ago supporting a friend. A men's physic competitor that won the show looked absolutely amazing. I started a conversation with him and asked him about the cycle he did to prepare for the show. He laughed and said nothing, all peptides. I said ok, was not going to start arguing with the man since I don't know much about peptides. So here is how look at it. Its either working extremely well and I need to educate myself more or its a trend to lie about steroid use and say you are on peptides.