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I'm wondering if a test only cycle will completely mess me up. I planned on running 500mg a week for 16 weeks. I have my pct already as well as the testosterone, but doing a lot of reading and research Im kind of scared to even take it. I don't want to completely mess myself up. I'm 37 and Im just scared to death of screwing myself up for good. This is a first cycle. I've never taken any other anabolics or testosterone for that matter. I've thought about trt, but I live in the middle of nowhere and the closest clinic is 2.5 hours away. Just looking for some advice. If it's not a good idea I'll just stick to the natural way of drinking it like I have been.
 
Drinking it?
Just kidding... speeeel cheek sucks.
If I were 37 again... Id wait till I was 45 and get on TRT
 
You will not screw your self up if you keep you doses with in normal limits. First couple of cycles 300-400 mg divided by 2 doses every 3.5 days. Purchase armidex or Aromasin to control high estrogen and novadex if you start to develop gyno. Most people do not have any issues with estrogen and gyno until above 500 a week. But it's good to have on hand incase you need it. I started my first cycle at 30 but just started TRT at close to 50.
 
I have letrozol 2.5mg tablets for a ai jic. I also have clomephine and nolvadex. I've been slowly getting EVERYTHING I may need jic. I've been doing a lot of reading on hcg too. Is that a necessity if I'm only using test? I have 3 kids and am fixed lol. So I don't have to worry about anything like wanting to have kids in the future. I've just been watching too much youtube lol. I've always really wanted to do test just for my own experiment. I just don't want to jack myself all up. I was planning on doing 250 twice a week Monday and Thursday.
 
hermgreen03 said:
I have letrozol 2.5mg tablets for a ai jic. I also have clomephine and nolvadex. I've been slowly getting EVERYTHING I may need jic. I've been doing a lot of reading on hcg too. Is that a necessity if I'm only using test? I have 3 kids and am fixed lol. So I don't have to worry about anything like wanting to have kids in the future. I've just been watching too much youtube lol. I've always really wanted to do test just for my own experiment. I just don't want to jack myself all up. I was planning on doing 250 twice a week Monday and Thursday.
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I would start lower, like 150 e4d of its cyp or enan. Use aromasin (not nolva or letro) and wait till about week 4 to start the aromasin (10-12.5mgs every 7-8 days.)
 
You could simply run a lower dose, or increase your injection frequency to closer match your diurnal rhythm in order to manage sides. Or both.
 
Meetketchup said:
Why are you starting at 500mg? What is your reasoning as opposed to running a lower does?
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I hava a really close friend that was big in competing for years and that's where I have been getting my information from. He just recommended 500cyp as a good starting point. If I can do 250, and have a safer cycle than I will. This would also allow me to have plenty for future cycles if I like what it does for me and my body reacts to it well. As of now I have 5 250mg/ml 10ml vials. I have nolva and clomephine both purchased through a research company. I won't mention the name bc Idk if they are backed by this forum. And I have about 20 2.5mg letrozole tablets.
 
I have read that letrozole can completely crash your estrogen if you're not careful. Tbh Im more worried about the ai's than I am of test.
 
hermgreen03 said:
I have read that letrozole can completely crash your estrogen if you're not careful. Tbh Im more worried about the ai's than I am of test.
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Your better off using aromasin. It's more forgiving. Letrozole is very strong. I have never had reason to use it in 20+ years. What worked for you buddy does not mean you should start there. If you follow the advice your receiving here. Everybody is looking for your best interest. A first cycle should be at the lowest effective dose to first esesas how you body reacts. If you start to high and have sides and not know how to control them your going to be miserable.
 
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Powerhousehb said:
Your better off using aromasin. It's more forgiving. Letrozole is very strong. I have never had reason to use it in 20+ years. What worked for you buddy does not mean you should start there. If you follow the advice your receiving here. Everybody is looking for your best interest. A first cycle should be at the lowest effective dose to first esesas how you body reacts. If you start to high and have sides and not know how to control them your going to be miserable.
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Im extremely glad I found yall to begin with and I will change my plan from 500 to 250. See how my body reacts and also see if I have any crazy sides. If I can avoid taking a ai than that's what I would want to do. As far as cycle length, is 16 weeks too long? I was told by him that because of it being a long ester, that it takes about 5 weeks you to really start feeling the effects of the cyp. That's why he recommended 16 weeks instead of 12. Is that true or should I do 12 weeks and see how that goes first?
 
Hey brother. Glad your asking this question. First off have you done any bloodwork to see where your current test levels are sitting at. Thats always gonna be a number one as your base. Gear is going to shut your natural production down so a proper pct would be your best interest if your not planning on trt. All in all brother there is some great advice from my brothers here. Id definitely keep researching it. What works for one may not work for you brother. If you decide to pull the trigger. (Pin it to win it).
 
hermgreen03 said:
I have read that letrozole can completely crash your estrogen if you're not careful. Tbh Im more worried about the ai's than I am of test.
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Letro is an emergency drug if gyno actually flares up with tissue increases.
Use aromasin. It blocks conversion, dosent crash your estro, (you need estro to go up a bit as your test levels increase to keep a proper ratio) and it increases your bio-available or "free-test" which is what gives you the anabolic results.
 
hermgreen03 said:
Im extremely glad I found yall to begin with and I will change my plan from 500 to 250. See how my body reacts and also see if I have any crazy sides. If I can avoid taking a ai than that's what I would want to do. As far as cycle length, is 16 weeks too long? I was told by him that because of it being a long ester, that it takes about 5 weeks you to really start feeling the effects of the cyp. That's why he recommended 16 weeks instead of 12. Is that true or should I do 12 weeks and see how that goes first?
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Yes, it takes 5 weeks approximately to kick in. 16 weeks is fine. Your headed down the right path. Make sure you get blood work first before your first cycle so you have a baseline to compare to the next time you do labs.
 
I ran 300/wk for a cycle and I inject eod to keep sides down and it has helped, never taken an AI, estrogen runs upper 90s but feel great, no tits or high sides at all. Currently on 500/wk under same protocol and week 6 into it and still no AI but back acne has increased from the 300 but bloods coming next week so we will know. Eod seems overkill but it works for me and seems stable.
 
Fletcher said:
Letro is an emergency drug if gyno actually flares up with tissue increases.
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One thing with letro to also keep in mind is that unlike exemestane, it's a competitive AI. Unless tapered properly, you can end up with some gnarly estrogen rebound.
 
The "bro you need to run 500mg for a first cycle" crowd needs to come out of the 90's.
 
hermgreen03 said:
I'm wondering if a test only cycle will completely mess me up. I planned on running 500mg a week for 16 weeks. I have my pct already as well as the testosterone, but doing a lot of reading and research Im kind of scared to even take it.
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... Then don't! If you've done the necessary research, then you should already know exactly what you are getting into. I'm not meaning to be harsh but keep doing more research until you are able to do it without any fear.
 
Your good and natural test levels should come back fine. I've done several cycles and return back to normal after my time off. Now I did start w 500mg as well, but prob start a little lower like it was mentioned and get blood work. FYI I'm 36.

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Fletcher said:
😄 we didnt have test in the 90s. It was all dbol, deca, eq mostly.
The "500 first cycle" crowd is your 2010 folks. Same ones that still preach the nolva/clomid "PCT".
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I have nolva/clomid but I have been reading a lot on hcg. I just didn't know if hcg would be necessary for a test only cycle.
 
Fletcher said:
Its not. Get aromasin for estro control.
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Just picked up some anastrozole. So I believe I have everything in place to start this cycle. Extremely excited. Im planning on waiting until November when things slow down a bit around the house. With School just starting and having 3 kids we stay busy. November my oldest daughter will be done with comp cheer and I'll have more of a solid weight lifting schedule. Really looking forward to this.
 

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