Test/primo/reta exhaustion

[Brickedup]

To preface this I live mostly in Mexico at point. 2-3 weeks here and run 1+ weeks at my other house in Los Angeles. I say this because it’s 102 degrees here with 80% humidity most days this time of year and it may be contributing to this.

I’m doing 250 test/375 primo/2.5 Reta. I look fantastic. Body fat in the teens, sexual drive and performance is great and I’ve lost 25 lbs drom
185 to 160 and my penis went from an average to one that is pretty impressive due to the weight loss.

Problem is that I am constantly tired, like exhausted. Eating well and nutritiously, going to the gym 5 times a week, sleeping 8 hours a night but during the day I am just without energy and ready to fall asleep instantly. I take a multi vitamin and omega and my girl is open access and I can anything I want to her at any time or direct her to do something and she happily do it immediately (sexually)….i should be thriving.

What is wrong with me you guys think? Maybe need more test or some supplement or less Reta? Any opinions would be welcome.

 

[All_Hail_Lilith]

I can only speak on my experience. I would get blood work to see where e2 is at. I have to have my test a lot higher than primo if not I will tank my e2 and feel tired and lethargic. That’s just my experience tho. My dick will still work I will just feel shitty.

 

[floridaman1984]

To preface this I live mostly in Mexico at point. 2-3 weeks here and run 1+ weeks at my other house in Los Angeles. I say this because it’s 102 degrees here with 80% humidity most days this time of year and it may be contributing to this.

I’m doing 250 test/375 primo/2.5 Reta. I look fantastic. Body fat in the teens, sexual drive and performance is great and I’ve lost 25 lbs drom
185 to 160 and my penis went from an average to one that is pretty impressive due to the weight loss.

Problem is that I am constantly tired, like exhausted. Eating well and nutritiously, going to the gym 5 times a week, sleeping 8 hours a night but during the day I am just without energy and ready to fall asleep instantly. I take a multi vitamin and omega and my girl is open access and I can anything I want to her at any time or direct her to do something and she happily do it immediately (sexually)….i should be thriving.

What is wrong with me you guys think? Maybe need more test or some supplement or less Reta? Any opinions would be welcome.

Have you had bloods checked recently? How's your e2 doing at that test primo ratio?

 

[Sirchon]

Reta always makes me feel shitty. I just stick with sema.

 

[Brickedup]

Have you had bloods checked recently? How's your e2 doing at that test primo ratio?

It was low 30s last blood when I ran this…haven’t done it on this cycle. Around 5 weeks in, think it’s low or high e2?

 

[floridaman1984]

It was low 30s last blood when I ran this…haven’t done it on this cycle. Around 5 weeks in, think it’s low or high e2?

Low most likely

 

[Brickedup]

Reta always makes me feel shitty. I just stick with sema.

Sema made me feel awful…any time I tried to push it past 1mg a week I’d vomit for 2 days

 

[Cypher]

Drop the Reta dosage or give it a break enitrely and go from there.

 

[Sirchon]

Sema made me feel awful…any time I tried to push it past 1mg a week I’d vomit for 2 days

Maybe you aren’t cut out for glp agonists.

 

[floridaman1984]

Sema made me feel awful…any time I tried to push it past 1mg a week I’d vomit for 2 days

Sema made me feel like shit also.

I prefer tirz over all of them personally.

 

[Cypher]

99% sure the Reta is causing the fatigue/malaise. You're at a low enough weight and BF% that the dose of Reta your pushing is too much.

 

[Cypher]

Another thing I’m seeing a lot is that people just aren’t drinking enough water. When you’re on a GLP-1 and/or AAS, your body is essentially asking for more fluids, minerals, and electrolytes, so dehydration and electrolyte imbalances can sneak up on you pretty quickly.

I don't think a simple multi will cut it.

Adding creatine could very well help with some of the fatigue and may even provide a slight boost in mental clarity and cognitive performance.

 

[Brickedup]

Low most likely

Makes sense. When I run 250+ test and nothing else my e2 gets into the 70s but I start suffering ED. My sexual performance recently is the opposite of that, not to get too graphic but even flaccid the thing is 5+ inches the last fews which is much bigger than normal for me does low e2 have an effect on this as well?

 

[Brickedup]

99% sure the Reta is causing the fatigue/malaise. You're at a low enough weight and BF% that the dose of Reta your pushing is too much.

My friend said something to the same effects
, not enough fat scores to draw from and not enough eating to supply energy. Interesting, thank you

 

[floridaman1984]

Try cutting out the reta like @Cypher suggested. Shouldnt take to long to see if that fixes it.

 

[floridaman1984]

A friend of mine runs reta all the time. He was telling me carbs were important on reta also. For what thats worth. Im kind of ignorant on it.

 

[Cypher]

The glucagon peptide is quite powerful and can cause a pretty dramatic shift in substrate utilization compared to the other GLP pathways.

A lot of people also simply aren’t eating enough while running Reta.

 

[Cypher]

This whole idea that Reta “isn’t working” just because the user isn’t disgusted by food is fucking stupid, don’t even get me started. I wish that narrative would just go away entirely.

Be smart about it, gang, and use it to your advantage. Don’t just judge whether it’s working based on appetite suppression alone.

These GLP's have made people mentally weak at times.

@Brickedup This isn't the case with you at all, Sir.

 

[Brickedup]

This whole idea that Reta “isn’t working” just because the user isn’t disgusted by food is fucking stupid, don’t even get me started. I wish that narrative would just go away entirely.

Be smart about it, gang, and use it to your advantage. Don’t just judge whether it’s working based on appetite suppression alone.

These GLP's have made people mentally weak at times.

@Brickedup This isn't the case with you at all, Sir.

Thank you my friend. I’m not disgusted by food and I’m still eating. The only thing I don’t care for anymore is coffee oddly enough. Also, i was doing some drugs recreationally before this and lost interest. I think dropping the dose a bit and hydrating more are my main take aways from all this. Probably also drop the promo to 125 since it indirectly lowers my e2. Appreciat all the comments and advice.

 

[Oran Juice Jones]

Why are you telling us about your dick? Glad you dropped the weight, but that some info you can save for the Misses.

Also why are you running more primo than test? What does your bloodwork look like?


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[Brickedup]

Why are you telling us about your dick? Glad you dropped the weight, but that some info you can save for the Misses.

Also why are you running more primo than test? What does your bloodwork look like?


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Because whatever I’m doing is effecting my body in new and unusual ways and I thought additional information may help mature adults assist me. Sorry if it made you feel uncomfortable…..we all have them here and it’s not a big deal unless you have some personal hang up about yours or seeing others. Apologies if it made you feel that way, unintentional.

 

[Oran Juice Jones]

Because whatever I’m doing is effecting my body in new and unusual ways and I thought additional information may help mature adults assist me. Sorry if it made you feel uncomfortable…..we all have them here and it’s not a big deal unless you have some personal hang up about yours or seeing others. Apologies if it made you feel that way, unintentional.

It was a strange add in. I don’t know how that has anything to do with fatigue. It seemed like you were fishing….

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[chadmack]

Obviously every1 is different but with that ratio of test to primo i would bet your e2 is pretty low

 

[Brickedup]

I’ve already explained my reasoning and offered you an apology for the way it made you feel. Is there something else you’d like from me or can we move on OJ?

 

[Brickedup]

Obviously every1 is different but with that ratio of test to primo i would bet your e2 is pretty low

I’m rolling with this assumption now, thank you

 

[Jbg1121]

Check your Iron and Ferritin levels. Reta was crushing mine and after about a month of starting Iron supplements I was starting to feel normal again.

 

[Devilpup]

To preface this I live mostly in Mexico at point. 2-3 weeks here and run 1+ weeks at my other house in Los Angeles. I say this because it’s 102 degrees here with 80% humidity most days this time of year and it may be contributing to this.

I’m doing 250 test/375 primo/2.5 Reta. I look fantastic. Body fat in the teens, sexual drive and performance is great and I’ve lost 25 lbs drom
185 to 160 and my penis went from an average to one that is pretty impressive due to the weight loss.

Problem is that I am constantly tired, like exhausted. Eating well and nutritiously, going to the gym 5 times a week, sleeping 8 hours a night but during the day I am just without energy and ready to fall asleep instantly. I take a multi vitamin and omega and my girl is open access and I can anything I want to her at any time or direct her to do something and she happily do it immediately (sexually)….i should be thriving.

What is wrong with me you guys think? Maybe need more test or some supplement or less Reta? Any opinions would be welcome.

You’re not really mentioning your diet. I’m willing to bet you have to up your carbs 75-100 more than what you currently are. That Glucagon NEEDS carbs. And yes , probably 2-300 mg more of test. Wouldn’t hurt to lower Reta to 2 mg if you’re happy with your fat loss.

 

[Brickedup]

You’re not really mentioning your diet. I’m willing to bet you have to up your carbs 75-100 more than what you currently are. That Glucagon NEEDS carbs. And yes , probably 2-300 mg more of test. Wouldn’t hurt to lower Reta to 2 mg if you’re happy with your fat loss.

Girl makes bean burritos in the morning, a steak or shrimp for lunch with Lots of veggies. Dinner is typically something smaller, a couple ot asada tacos with a piece of corn or maybe a chicken soup. I’m getting a lot of carbs in the tortillas. The only thing I’m really missing is sugars and maybe some fruits. But I’ll start tracking my food again to research. Thank you

 

[Devilpup]

Sorry my dude. lol you need complex carbs. Tortillas or any type of bread burns super fast. I know it seems silly sometimes but eat sweet potatoes, potatoes potato’s. lol. Oatmeal. What’s your body fat? If you’re fairly lean you don’t have energy because no fat is being absorbed. Note : Reta obviously is very new so who the fuck knows. lol
It could just be you. Try tirzepatide

 

[BFulforth]

I would be concerned that at that test/primo ratio your E2 is crushed. Reta makes me feel like hammered dog shit. I’ve dropped my dose down to a bare minimum because I just don’t like the way I feel running it. Definitely time for some in depth bloodwork in my opinion. See where everything is at and adjust as necessary.