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Test E /Deca/ mast question

Pumpitup13

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Thinking of running test, Deca and mast. Or, also have tren and EQ on hand. Should I swap Deca with tren? And swap mast with EQ? Or can I incorporate some of these compounds together?
 
Can you give us some more information such as your steroid cycle history (how many cycles and what you have used in the past compound wise)

As well as your age, height and weight.

Lastly do you PCT between cycles or are you on trt
 
so, you did’t mention what tren ester, but i would go with E personally. the ace ester will clear faster, but the cough side effect seems terrible if you’re someone who gets it. also, the answer really depends what you want. if i was trying to bulk up, i would go with deca hands down. you’ll carry a lot of water, but i would run 2:1 deca test ratio. the problem with deca imo is that normally someone would run test a lot higher than necessary to avoid deca dick. imo, for me, mast is a solid compound to add in as a good anti estrogen. mast is known for its dry gains and a good grainy look. also, if i was going to run EQ, i would do it for like 16 to 20 weeks because 10-12 won’t even see the full effects of the compound. if i was trying to decide a cycle based on these compound that i would deem effective for myself, i would go with 400-500 test, 400-500 mast, and 200-300 tren e. everything stated there i would use the long ester version. i would do this to save pins and avoid scar tissue build up. that would be a lean bulk or a cutting cycle for me. if i wanted to bulk, i would go with 750 test and 300-400 deca, all long esters. any of these cycles could benefit from throwing some provi in to make test more effective though. the problem with the 2nd cycle is an unnecessary test dose, imo. the test dose is higher to avoid deca dick. the problem with the first cycle is tren. tren is a devastating compound, and i would always avoid it. however, i think those are both decent cycles, but i would vastly prefer the 2nd option to avoid tren. i would check out the @Alpha Sigma Labs sub forum for some more info and see what’s around. they’re very solid. however, all this is just my opinion and i’m not a doctor. this isn’t medical advice or any advice you should act. best of luck & safe health, my friend! if you have any questions, feel to quote this, PM me, or @ me, and i’ll be more than happy to help out.
 
Whats your cycle history

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exenzero said:
so, you did’t mention what tren ester, but i would go with E personally. the ace ester will clear faster, but the cough side effect seems terrible if you’re someone who gets it. also, the answer really depends what you want. if i was trying to bulk up, i would go with deca hands down. you’ll carry a lot of water, but i would run 2:1 deca test ratio. the problem with deca imo is that normally someone would run test a lot higher than necessary to avoid deca dick. imo, for me, mast is a solid compound to add in as a good anti estrogen. mast is known for its dry gains and a good grainy look. also, if i was going to run EQ, i would do it for like 16 to 20 weeks because 10-12 won’t even see the full effects of the compound. if i was trying to decide a cycle based on these compound that i would deem effective for myself, i would go with 400-500 test, 400-500 mast, and 200-300 tren e. everything stated there i would use the long ester version. i would do this to save pins and avoid scar tissue build up. that would be a lean bulk or a cutting cycle for me. if i wanted to bulk, i would go with 750 test and 300-400 deca, all long esters. any of these cycles could benefit from throwing some provi in to make test more effective though. the problem with the 2nd cycle is an unnecessary test dose, imo. the test dose is higher to avoid deca dick. the problem with the first cycle is tren. tren is a devastating compound, and i would always avoid it. however, i think those are both decent cycles, but i would vastly prefer the 2nd option to avoid tren. i would check out the @Alpha Sigma Labs sub forum for some more info and see what’s around. they’re very solid. however, all this is just my opinion and i’m not a doctor. this isn’t medical advice or any advice you should act. best of luck & safe health, my friend! if you have any questions, feel to quote this, PM me, or @ me, and i’ll be more than happy to help out.
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Great information thank you ! For bulk I should exclude eq and mast?
 
Pumpitup13 said:
Thinking of running test, Deca and mast. Or, also have tren and EQ on hand. Should I swap Deca with tren? And swap mast with EQ? Or can I incorporate some of these compounds together?
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You're mentioning swapping and substituting drugs here that all do entirely different things when put into a specific environment. All of these drugs are nothing but tools, they do different things.
They are ideally favored for particular things because of how complimentary they can be with a specific goal.

I'm just going to jump to a conclusion here, by assuming you're wanting to stay on the leaner side, with more of a hard dense look.

What is your age, cycle history and your current stats, and what is your goal not just with this cycle but the follow-up thereafter?
 
Pumpitup13 said:
Great information thank you ! For bulk I should exclude eq and mast?
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imo, mast and EQ won’t add the size someone is looking for in a bulk. those are more so traditional cutting agents.
 
Diet is more of a deciding factor to bulking or cutting then the compounds used. Some compounds are better suited as far as dry or wet compounds.

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Vision said:
You're mentioning swapping and substituting drugs here that all do entirely different things when put into a specific environment. All of these drugs are nothing but tools, they do different things.
They are ideally favored for particular things because of how complimentary they can be with a specific goal.

I'm just going to jump to a conclusion here, by assuming you're wanting to stay on the leaner side, with more of a hard dense look.

What is your age, cycle history and your current stats, and what is your goal not just with this cycle but the follow-up thereafter?
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Absolutely looking to be lean and defined. Cycled Deca and test in the past. I’m 35 Y/O 165lbs so I’d also like to bulk a bit as well. I’m very new to all of this so please bare with me!
 
Pumpitup13 said:
So tren and Deca not a good combo? Sorry I’m very new to all this
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when a typical person runs tren vs deca they usually have different goals in mind. tren is mainly used as a cutting agent, and deca is mainly used in bulks. you can always PM me if you have any questions!
 
Pumpitup13 said:
Absolutely looking to be lean and defined. Cycled Deca and test in the past. I’m 35 Y/O 165lbs so I’d also like to bulk a bit as well. I’m very new to all of this so please bare with me!
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With the compounds that you had lined up, that's where I made my assumptions. It was a wild guess.
But if you're looking to do some sort of recomp, with cleaning up at the same time gaining as much lean muscle as possible.
Test and NPP, would be the way to go with just a low to moderate amount of mast in the back, you won't need much of that at all.
500 test, 300npp, 200mastE.
Definitely get your meals in on point.
But you're going to need to change up your portions on training days and off days.
Definitely get your cardio in. That's to help support your metabolism and nutrition partitioning. And you don't need crazy overwhelming beasting out cardio, 20 to 25 minutes slight incline treadmill, fast walking pace with no hands on the railings. 3 to 4 times a week will fasted.
 
How about Test/Deca/Mast and Eq?
I’m almost sure that’ll be my next cycle, mine will be for athletic purposes so lower doses but still 100% effort.
 
BBruce said:
How about Test/Deca/Mast and Eq?
I’m almost sure that’ll be my next cycle, mine will be for athletic purposes so lower doses but still 100% effort.
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That’s a thought I had, and liked a lot. Wasn’t sure it was an okay thing to do though. Glad that you said this! Thank you
 
Unless you're very experienced with these different compounds it is not a good idea to stack 4 different compounds. If you get side effects which one is causing it? No way to know unless you've ran each one and you know how you respond to each one.
 
Matt88 said:
Unless you're very experienced with these different compounds it is not a good idea to stack 4 different compounds. If you get side effects which one is causing it? No way to know unless you've ran each one and you know how you respond to each one.
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Mast is the only I haven’t used, I did fail to mention adding eq to a previous cycle. I do have concerns about 4 at once, mainly that it’s on loaded pin…
 
Test deca mast is an awesome and one of my all time fav cycles. I’ve ran just test and deca in the past and becuz of the effect deca had on my libido I didn’t touch it for years. Also held a lot of water. But then I read from so many pros and vets that deca was always there go to for bulking and best addition to test. So I decided to add mast for both libido and help with the water retention and it was a God send. The 3 work so syngestically and I felt great both physically and mentally and had no sides and not had to run and AI. Jus start low and go up slowly if needed. My opinion start test at 400-500mg deca 200-300mg and mast eth at 200mg weekly
 
Test deca mast is an awesome and one of my all time fav cycles. I’ve ran just test and deca in the past and becuz of the effect deca had on my libido I didn’t touch it for years. Also held a lot of water. But then I read from so many pros and vets that deca was always there go to for bulking and best addition to test. So I decided to add mast for both libido and help with the water retention and it was a God send. The 3 work so syngestically and I felt great both physically and mentally and had no sides and not had to run and AI. Jus start low and go up slowly if needed. My opinion start test at 400-500mg deca 200-300mg and mast eth at 200mg weekly
Awesome!! That’s exactly how I’m going to run it!
 

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