Test, Decca, Mast.

[Glycomann]

I didn't make a claim, you did. You're the one needing to provide evidence. I'm just busting your balls.

I respect your opinion. Oh and I didn't have any trouble in the kid aspect despite my cruising.

I agree that's why juicers don't want to come off btw.

hdre is your claim "If you blast and cruise at REAL trt dosages for extensive periods (putting you in the 500-800 test level area) that is actually better than coming all off as it stabilizes bloodwork without huge crashes or swings, which is unhealthy for the body. I've seen that in blood work specifically." So you've done the comparison. I would be interested to see that data. I cycled for many years and recovered fine. I'm still alive after 35 years as are men from my era. I can't think of one guy from my days in the 80s and 90s that dropped from organ issues etc. Anacdotal but it is what it is. Today... not so much. Getting common actually.

 

[christiantt]

If you wish to answer, Given that the doc says my bloodwork is all good.

Could you give your input on Test E, Decca, Mast cycle?

Test, deca, mast is one of my favorite cycles and which I am currently engaged.

Weekly test is 600, deca 200, mast 400. I always keep test higher than the deca and the mast.

- Deca helps fill me out a bit, nice strength increases and joint relief. I don't need much deca to get its benefits, so why take more than necessary? Also, deca, at least for me, instigates estrogen more than almost any other compound, so AI's a must and also another reason I don't really go much higher than 200-300.

- Love mast because of its muscle rounding effects and assists with keeping estrogen in check ; mast also provides libido benefits. Mast shines the most when cutting down, hardening, but can still bring some of those benefits to the table if you are disciplined in the kitchen.......not full blown cutting, but just generally eating healthy and not over-eating.

- And test is.......test. Shouldn't have to really go into its benefits in a place like this. I run the equivalent of a trt protocol when I'm not on a cycle, so when this cycle is over I bring test back down to around 225 week.

As to the debate of whether to blast then cruise or blast and go off completely, I blast and cruise. Not because I am saying it is the better, long term healthier option, but just because that is my choice and my blood work and health markers are all fine, so that's the path until something changes.

 

[[Pinhead]]

Test, deca, mast is one of my favorite cycles and which I am currently engaged.

Weekly test is 600, deca 200, mast 400. I always keep test higher than the deca and the mast.

- Deca helps fill me out a bit, nice strength increases and joint relief. I don't need much deca to get its benefits, so why take more than necessary? Also, deca, at least for me, instigates estrogen more than almost any other compound, so AI's a must and also another reason I don't really go much higher than 200-300.

- Love mast because of its muscle rounding effects and assists with keeping estrogen in check ; mast also provides libido benefits. Mast shines the most when cutting down, hardening, but can still bring some of those benefits to the table if you are disciplined in the kitchen.......not full blown cutting, but just generally eating healthy and not over-eating.

- And test is.......test. Shouldn't have to really go into its benefits in a place like this. I run the equivalent of a trt protocol when I'm not on a cycle, so when this cycle is over I bring test back down to around 225 week.

As to the debate of whether to blast then cruise or blast and go off completely, I blast and cruise. Not because I am saying it is the better, long term healthier option, but just because that is my choice and my blood work and health markers are all fine, so that's the path until something changes.

I understand that everyone converts differently, but I'm curious how you dose your AI on a cycle like that. (Asking because I've never taken deca or mast).

 

[Meetketchup]

Also, deca, at least for me, instigates estrogen more than almost any other compound, so AI's a must and also another reason I don't really go much higher than 200-300.

Super interesting that you can run test at 600 and it's deca that instigates your estrogen. It's usually the other way around considering deca converts at only 20% estrogen to that of test. Shows you how compounds hit everyone differently. The body is not a textbook.

For me, I run lower test and higher deca because it's the test that triggers my estro. The mast is like an estro moderator. lol

 

[christiantt]

I understand that everyone converts differently, but I'm curious how you dose your AI on a cycle like that. (Asking because I've never taken deca or mast

1mg anastrozole a week usually keeps things in check. Pre-cycle blood work to make sure all markers are in acceptable range and then mid cycle blood work to see where things are at. If I wasn't taking the mast, I might have to take more anastrozole, because mast provides some estro reduction benefits.

25mg/week of tamoxifen as well because of the deca and gyno prevention.

 

[christiantt]

Super interesting that you can run test at 600 and it's deca that instigates your estrogen. It's usually the other way around considering deca converts at only 20% estrogen to that of test. Shows you how compounds hit everyone differently. The body is not a textbook.

For me, I run lower test and higher deca because it's the test that triggers my estro. The mast is like an estro moderator. lol

It is odd and unfortunate because deca absolutely is the #1 size and strength compound for me........dramatic effects. Highest I ever went on deca was 500 a week and I absolutely felt like I was growing daily.......but then estrogen went haywire and I had no choice to dial it back. And high test alone cycles rarely caused estro issues and if they happened, was very minor.

 

[[Pinhead]]

1mg anastrozole a week usually keeps things in check. Pre-cycle blood work to make sure all markers are in acceptable range and then mid cycle blood work to see where things are at. If I wasn't taking the mast, I might have to take more anastrozole, because mast provides some estro reduction benefits.

25mg/week of tamoxifen as well because of the deca and gyno prevention.

Thanks for the info, dude.

 

[CowboyT]

Test, Deca and Mast has been my all time favorite cycle. I’m running 500mg test, 300mg Deca and Mast pinning EOD. Joints feel fucking amazing and growing like a damn weed. I’m up from 230 to 250 pounds in 8 weeks while simultaneously appearing more lean and vascular. Most will recommend not to add two new drugs in a cycle due to being able to pin point side effects. However I believe that Mast does a great job of moderating sides of both Deca and test for me leaving me able to run it with no AI. I say go for it just make sure to get bloods and monitor that BP bro!

 

[Meetketchup]

Test, Deca and Mast has been my all time favorite cycle. I’m running 500mg test, 300mg Deca and Mast pinning EOD. Joints feel fucking amazing and growing like a damn weed. I’m up from 230 to 250 pounds in 8 weeks while simultaneously appearing more lean and vascular. Most will recommend not to add two new drugs in a cycle due to being able to pin point side effects. However I believe that Mast does a great job of moderating sides of both Deca and test for me leaving me able to run it with no AI. I say go for it just make sure to get bloods and monitor that BP bro!

Running the same thing for my off-season along with a nice amount of Gh. Always my go to lean mass phase stack. Safe, effective, feel great and the mast controls the estrogen. Also it's dry gains so when switching to prep it's super easy. I simply replace deca with tren.