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Sustanon Cycle and Anavar

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Hi Team, I hope everyone is well.

I am looking to get my 3rd cycle . My body fat is around 15%, height wise I am 181 cm and 36 years old, I am looking to gain a little bit of more lean body mass and reduce the body fat during the cycle.

The last pin was on 22nd Jan followed by PCT for 4 weeks till 4th March. I am planning for the same cycle but with Sustanon. Is the time between this cycle and last is fine/adequate or should I wait a bit longer?
  • Week 1-12 – 500mg/week Sustanon Tuesday and Friday Pinning
  • Week 7-12 – 40 mg/daily Anavar ( 20 morning 8 am - 20 mg evening 8pm)
  • Week 1-12 – 50 mg daily Proviron
  • Week 1-12 – 20mg twice daily Nolvadex to keep the Gyno at bay.
  • Week 3-10 – 500 iu HCG every week to keep thing under control and ready for PCT and let the nuts breath 😊
For PCT:
  • Week 17 – 40mg/day Nolvadex & 100mg/day Clomid
  • Week 18-20 – 20mg/day Nolvadex & 50 mg/day Clomid
There is a delay between the start of the PCT as I am accounting for Testosterone decanoate to completely get out of the system.

My Blood tests are in the good range in terms of


RBC 5
HB 14.6
Total Cholesterol at 200
HDL 36
TDL 86
TSH 2.05
Vitamin D is low at 33 ng/ml for which I have started the supplements.

Any other tests that I need to get done? I am not planning to get my T level tested or E2.
 
25 years ago a common cycle was an injectable like deca or test and an oral. None of us ever had liver issues and we made great gains. Just stating that up front because people are about to chime in that 12 weeks of an oral is horrible.
 
Glycomann said:
25 years ago a common cycle was an injectable like deca or test and an oral. None of us ever had liver issues and we made great gains. Just stating that up front because people are about to chime in that 12 weeks of an oral is horrible.
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Thanks, but I was scheduling Anavar for only 5 weeks that too at the end of the cycle. Do you recommend to replace this with masteron? then at what doses?
Is that you are referring to Proviron?
 
I like it. The only thing I would change is no AI unless my blood work confirms my estrogen is through the roof.
 
seems totally reasonable except for the Nolva during the cycle. Youre better off getting bloodwork and dialing in a proper AI rather than just using a serm
 
ARS89 said:
Thanks, but I was scheduling Anavar for only 5 weeks that too at the end of the cycle. Do you recommend to replace this with masteron? then at what doses?
Is that you are referring to Proviron?
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Not answering for @Glycomann, but I will give my 2 cents even though you didn't ask for it. lol

At 15% you don't need an oral while running 500mg of test a week. It's not going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things. Is it super toxic? No, but you don't run extra things when you don't have to. 500mg is a hefty dose and with a dialed in diet, training and recovery is PLENTY.
 
Meetketchup said:
Macros?

Also, curious as to why you chose Nolva over an AI.

Good luck!
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I have used Armidex in the past but it didn't seem to benefit me instead ended up with a lump on my right side, then Nolva came to the rescue and ran the whole cycle with it Nolva and didn't faced the issue of puffy nipples and the lump subsided.

The challenge is to find the sweet spot with AI. In my previous cycle, Ai crashed my E2 completely again the dose that I was taking 0.5mg EOD and I ended up being feeling shit and it took a good 2 to 3 weeks to recover. I don't intend to crash my E2 with Armidex this time, I can try with Armidex E4D or get a blood work done before starting it and start the cycle without Nolva or AI?
 
TomJ said:
my grandfather is turning 99 next month and he smoked unfiltered pall malls for 60 or so of those years. Statement of fact.
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Mine smoked Lucky Strikes for 50 years, fact. No Anavar though. But anyways, back to the orals for weeks and weeks, there were hundreds of us and no problems so there is that. Then again, we weren't fool enough to run 150 mg a day of the shit either.
 
ARS89 said:
Hi Team, I hope everyone is well.

I am looking to get my 3rd cycle . My body fat is around 15%, height wise I am 181 cm and 36 years old, I am looking to gain a little bit of more lean body mass and reduce the body fat during the cycle.

The last pin was on 22nd Jan followed by PCT for 4 weeks till 4th March. I am planning for the same cycle but with Sustanon. Is the time between this cycle and last is fine/adequate or should I wait a bit longer?
  • Week 1-12 – 500mg/week Sustanon Tuesday and Friday Pinning
  • Week 7-12 – 40 mg/daily Anavar ( 20 morning 8 am - 20 mg evening 8pm)
  • Week 1-12 – 50 mg daily Proviron
  • Week 1-12 – 20mg twice daily Nolvadex to keep the Gyno at bay.
  • Week 3-10 – 500 iu HCG every week to keep thing under control and ready for PCT and let the nuts breath 😊
For PCT:
  • Week 17 – 40mg/day Nolvadex & 100mg/day Clomid
  • Week 18-20 – 20mg/day Nolvadex & 50 mg/day Clomid
There is a delay between the start of the PCT as I am accounting for Testosterone decanoate to completely get out of the system.

My Blood tests are in the good range in terms of


RBC 5
HB 14.6
Total Cholesterol at 200
HDL 36
TDL 86
TSH 2.05
Vitamin D is low at 33 ng/ml for which I have started the supplements.

Any other tests that I need to get done? I am not planning to get my T level tested or E2.
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Bump!
 
Hi Everyone,

I was on the protocol until September 30th, with a slight modification. Instead of pinning 1ml bi-weekly, I switched to 0.5ml every other day, which helped maintain a consistent flow and led to some solid lean gains, hitting multiple PRs.

I also removed HCG and Proviron from the cycle, sticking purely to Sustanon and Anavar at 30 mg daily.

Now that the 12 weeks have ended, I’m unsure whether to proceed with a PCT or start cruising. If I choose to cruise, what should I be using? If PCT is the way to go, there's a four-week wait—should I take HCG until PCT starts and continue through the end of PCT, or wait and then start HCG at 500iu/week when PCT begins?
ARS89 said:
Hi Team, I hope everyone is well.

I am looking to get my 3rd cycle . My body fat is around 15%, height wise I am 181 cm and 36 years old, I am looking to gain a little bit of more lean body mass and reduce the body fat during the cycle.

The last pin was on 22nd Jan followed by PCT for 4 weeks till 4th March. I am planning for the same cycle but with Sustanon. Is the time between this cycle and last is fine/adequate or should I wait a bit longer?
  • Week 1-12 – 500mg/week Sustanon Tuesday and Friday Pinning
  • Week 7-12 – 40 mg/daily Anavar ( 20 morning 8 am - 20 mg evening 8pm)
  • Week 1-12 – 50 mg daily Proviron
  • Week 1-12 – 20mg twice daily Nolvadex to keep the Gyno at bay.
  • Week 3-10 – 500 iu HCG every week to keep thing under control and ready for PCT and let the nuts breath 😊
For PCT:
  • Week 17 – 40mg/day Nolvadex & 100mg/day Clomid
  • Week 18-20 – 20mg/day Nolvadex & 50 mg/day Clomid
There is a delay between the start of the PCT as I am accounting for Testosterone decanoate to completely get out of the system.

My Blood tests are in the good range in terms of


RBC 5
HB 14.6
Total Cholesterol at 200
HDL 36
TDL 86
TSH 2.05
Vitamin D is low at 33 ng/ml for which I have started the supplements.

Any other tests that I need to get done? I am not planning to get my T level tested or E2.
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ARS89 said:
Hello, Any help on the above?
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The choice of pct and cruising is whether or not you want to be on TRT for the rest of your life. That simple and that's nobody's choice but yours.

If you PCT you wait a LONG time before cycling because that's how long most guys take to get back to respectable test levels, while some never fully get back. If you plan on cycling a lot then you go cruise/trt route, if not you go pct.
 
Meetketchup said:
The choice of pct and cruising is whether or not you want to be on TRT for the rest of your life. That simple and that's nobody's choice but yours.

If you PCT you wait a LONG time before cycling because that's how long most guys take to get back to respectable test levels, while some never fully get back. If you plan on cycling a lot then you go cruise/trt route, if not you go pct.
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Thanks a million for your advice, I'll stick to the PCT route.
Just one more question in my mind, There's a four-week wait—should I take HCG until PCT starts and continue through the end of PCT, or wait and then start HCG at 500iu/week when PCT begins?
 
ARS89 said:
There's a four-week wait
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better wait 2 weeks between the last pin and starting your PCT. 4 weeks is likely too much.
ARS89 said:
should I take HCG until PCT starts and continue through the end of PCT, or wait and then start HCG at 500iu/week when PCT begins?
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I do not recommend HCG during PCT, however, you may still use it as a bridge between the last test dosage and PCT and during the first 1-2 weeks of your 4-6 weeks PCT plan (it is important to avoid its use during the last 2-4 weeks of PCT).
Whether you should use HCG or not, however, depends on various factors. Do you experience testicle shrinkage? if not, you are likely good without it. If you do, you may need it. Do you want to boost sperm count/load? you may need it, if you don't, you may not.
 
SuppsForLife said:
better wait 2 weeks between the last pin and starting your PCT. 4 weeks is likely too much.

I do not recommend HCG during PCT, however, you may still use it as a bridge between the last test dosage and PCT and during the first 1-2 weeks of your 4-6 weeks PCT plan (it is important to avoid its use during the last 2-4 weeks of PCT).
Whether you should use HCG or not, however, depends on various factors. Do you experience testicle shrinkage? if not, you are likely good without it. If you do, you may need it. Do you want to boost sperm count/load? you may need it, if you don't, you may not.
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So today is the 18th Day from last pin, almost 3 weeks. I did experience those effects so I suppose I would require HCG.
while being on HCG, I need to take Armidex as well. Cannot go for Aromasin because my blood pressure changes drastically on it and expereince severe side effects.

For example, should the cycle should follow something like this?:

19th Oct to 1st Nov: 500 Iu HCG every other day along with 0.5 Armidex every 3rd day.

2nd Nov to 15th Nov 40mg/day Nolvadex & 100mg/day Clomid
16th Nov to 29th Nov – 20mg/day Nolvadex & 50 mg/day Clomid
 
Just keep in mind, you will probably feel a lag after you end PCT. It takes a few weeks still for your system to really come back on line once the training wheels come off. It use to take me 12 weeks to fully recover including the PCT period. Sometimes it would take 16 weeks. You are new to this so you may bounce back a little faster. just don't panic and start manipulating again and again. Over all i would usually drop 8 lbs all said and done, which is the steroid pump and not really real lean tissue. You will look flatter but once your system is back on line you will feel better and look better than during the recovery period. It's very important to keep training and eating clean with adequate protein.
 

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