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Starting my first cycle at 19 AMA

A lot of guys say wait until you’re 25 or older, and they’re right. Life happens fast. At 19, most people don’t have real stability yet. You’re just getting started, and things fall apart quick when you don’t have a foundation. You’ve got to live and learn, and trust me, you will.
Also, 156 pounds? Unless you’re 3 feet tall, that’s way too light to be thinking about gear.

At 19, your focus should be on building a career and getting your life sorted, not just the gym. If you go all in on lifting now and ignore everything else, you’ll blink and be 30, driving a Civic, living in your mom’s spare room, and broke from chasing a dream that never paid you back. I'm not saying don't give it your all, because a lot of us did. Just make sure you don't forget about life in the meantime.. sounds like you need to get your priorities straight little guy.
 
Rambo187 said:
A lot of guys say wait until you’re 25 or older, and they’re right. Life happens fast. At 19, most people don’t have real stability yet. You’re just getting started, and things fall apart quick when you don’t have a foundation. You’ve got to live and learn, and trust me, you will.
Also, 156 pounds? Unless you’re 3 feet tall, that’s way too light to be thinking about gear.

At 19, your focus should be on building a career and getting your life sorted, not just the gym. If you go all in on lifting now and ignore everything else, you’ll blink and be 30, driving a Civic, living in your mom’s spare room, and broke from chasing a dream that never paid you back. I'm not saying don't give it your all, because a lot of us did. Just make sure you don't forget about life in the meantime.. sounds like you need to get your priorities straight little guy.
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I know that my brain will be developing for another 6ish years and my hormones will be peaking until mid to late 20s but just tired of only seeing strength gains and little to no new mass.

Also bodybuilding as career is definitely out of the question, don't have the genetics to make it that far and also lack the appetite for more than 1 or 2 cycles. Got my own place and a pretty decent career selling houses making 100ish a year.

The advice is appreciated but I'm more concerned with advice regarding the cycle and especially administering a proper PCT to mitigate the effects after cycle.
 
BigBack93 said:
If your levels are on the high end , I wouldn't take anything. IF anything start with 250mg and then up to 350 7/8 weeks in, Make sure you do really good pct and work just as hard after the cycle as you did on it. I can remember 2 time I did pct and because of things going on in my life I didn't even work out much for weeks after an lost those gains. Have fun but Id wait if I were you.
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After a couple months of a very rigorous optimization protocol my levels rose from 220 to 390-425 ng/dl. Would be interested in hearing more about exactly how much of the cycle gains were lost after a proper pct with no training.
 
tommygunz said:
You got solid advise, but you’re going to do what you want anyway. Why did you even make this thread? Just to tell us you ordered some steroids and you’re going to take them?
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I made it quite clear I was asking for advice regarding the cycle and pct protocol. Read the post.
 
Curlieque said:
Did you do blood work? What's your levels at? When I did my first I was 225, but I had lifted for 7-8 years.
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After a couple months of a very rigorous optimization protocol my levels rose from 220 to 390-425 ng/dl. Would be interested in hearing more about exactly how much of the cycle gains were lost after a proper pct with no training.
Vitamin D was low but everything else as pretty normal. I feel like the test levels were really low considering my lifestyle and age.
 
Syntha Claus said:
You know, it seems like it. Especially with newly joiners. But the sad and craziest thing is that even f they are trolling, for every troll, there a dozen guys really doing this. Probably more.
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Real post not sorry to disappoint lol. Posting labs later today here.
 
Geist said:
Starting my first cycle(350mg test e) for 12-16 weeks.
Starting in about a week after I feel good about what I’m doing for my PCT.
19 years old 156lbs around 15 percent body fat and about 4 years of training.
315 squat, 315 deadlift and 225x5 bench. Haven’t been able to gain weight on 3k calories a day for almost a year at this point.
Will be posting baseline labs tomorrow and regularly posting updates and logging.
Any tips or advice would be appreciated.
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Pre cycle labs, missing some key metrics- plan on getting some more labs before I start.
 

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Skylerjohnson1996 said:
I feel like your bald 😂 if so don't sorry I am to i see those full headed two legged demons envious of there full head of hair then actually look at them and realize I'm bald for a reason I've done real gear 😂 not some chemicals in a dropper that doesn't even work
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I'm bald. I've been bald for a long time. Broccoli heads and sarm goblins are annoying.
 
Another option is to run HCG On the you test ti maintain some ttatixular funxtion

Run your 350 test weekly and add in HCG 3x per week to maintain testicular function

I’ve never run PCT, started trt in my early 30s after we had our kids…. but seems like it can take months to get that back
 
Conmike41 said:
Another option is to run HCG On the you test ti maintain some ttatixular funxtion

Run your 350 test weekly and add in HCG 3x per week to maintain testicular function

I’ve never run PCT, started trt in my early 30s after we had our kids…. but seems like it can take months to get that back
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Thanks for the advice, I have 5000 IU's on hand and I wanted to keep my testicular function as healthy as possible while also not taking too much HCG due to the test and HCG aromatizing into estrogen. One of the reasons for the 350 mg dose is to hopefully avoid having to use and AI. Should I lower the test in order to add the HCG without having to use and AI?
 
Geist said:
Thanks for the advice, I have 5000 IU's on hand and I wanted to keep my testicular function as healthy as possible while also not taking too much HCG due to the test and HCG aromatizing into estrogen. One of the reasons for the 350 mg dose is to hopefully avoid having to use and AI. Should I lower the test in order to add the HCG without having to use and AI?
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Dude if your going to do this and not take any of the solid advice given to you, don’t be scared of an AI

If you keep blasting, you’ll need to figure it out at some point so you might as well do it now.

500mg test, have adex on hand, pull bloods at week six. If estrogen isn’t 80+(just my personal number I don’t want to go over) and your not experiencing any high e2 symptoms no need for an AI.

If you start experience itchy nips or other e2 sides, add .5mg adex a week and adjust in .25mg increments until you feel “normal”
 
Syntha Claus said:
Being 19 and running gear but afraid of AIs is like being 21 and boozing it up but afraid for your liver.
Except you are years away from the latter.
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There is no fear regarding AI's.
I don't think anyone here will justify any cycle at 19 being safe but that doesn't mean i'm not going to try to do it properly and mitigate the side effects.
You'd think someone as old as you who feels this confident giving advice would have some modicum of regard for safety.
Your statement is the equivalent of saying if your already speeding why worry about wearing a seatbelt.
Also each of your replies has been completely off topic and you havent provided a single piece of advice on how to run the cycle as safely as possible in order to mitigate sides down the road. Find another thread.
 
Geist said:
There is no fear regarding AI's.
I don't think anyone here will justify any cycle at 19 being safe but that doesn't mean i'm not going to try to do it properly and mitigate the side effects.
You'd think someone as old as you who feels this confident giving advice would have some modicum of regard for safety.
Your statement is the equivalent of saying if your already speeding why worry about wearing a seatbelt.
Also each of your replies has been completely off topic and you havent provided a single piece of advice on how to run the cycle as safely as possible in order to mitigate sides down the road. Find another thread.
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The safest way is to not run a cycle at 19.
 
Geist said:
There is no fear regarding AI's.
I don't think anyone here will justify any cycle at 19 being safe but that doesn't mean i'm not going to try to do it properly and mitigate the side effects.
You'd think someone as old as you who feels this confident giving advice would have some modicum of regard for safety.
Your statement is the equivalent of saying if your already speeding why worry about wearing a seatbelt.
Also each of your replies has been completely off topic and you havent provided a single piece of advice on how to run the cycle as safely as possible in order to mitigate sides down the road. Find another thread.
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What’s unsafe about an AI?
 
Geist said:
There is no fear regarding AI's.
I don't think anyone here will justify any cycle at 19 being safe but that doesn't mean i'm not going to try to do it properly and mitigate the side effects.
You'd think someone as old as you who feels this confident giving advice would have some modicum of regard for safety.
Your statement is the equivalent of saying if your already speeding why worry about wearing a seatbelt.
Also each of your replies has been completely off topic and you havent provided a single piece of advice on how to run the cycle as safely as possible in order to mitigate sides down the road. Find another thread.
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Because my "modicum of safety" is that you don't use steroids, period. Full stop. Avoiding all salient advice is the antithesis of safety and anyone giving you advice on doing this "cycle" doesn't have a modicum of concern for you.

You'd think someone as young as you would heed the advice of someone as old as I am.

As far as finding another thread, you have been here four days. Hardly enough to play governor. Your not understanding my quasi-analogy makes it apparent your lack of maturity. Lack enough to listen to anyone who may actually have a concern for you.

I remain in this thread and actually like it because it might, just might help another young man to take pause before ignoring all advice and jumping onto steroids.

If you are still at this in 15 years, most of all who have chimed in here already know that when and IF you come back, `you will be quite opinionated about how you shouldn't have taken steroids so young and wish you'd listened.

See how many people "like" this post. It might (but I doubt it) make you see I am right.
 
Geist said:
Thanks for the advice, I have 5000 IU's on hand and I wanted to keep my testicular function as healthy as possible while also not taking too much HCG due to the test and HCG aromatizing into estrogen. One of the reasons for the 350 mg dose is to hopefully avoid having to use and AI. Should I lower the test in order to add the HCG without having to use and AI?
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Only way to tell is to get labs 5-6 weeks in

Everyone aromatizes differently
 

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