Seeking GLP-1 Advice

[LukeOvEarth]

Hey bros, hope all is well. I’m sure the questions I’m about to ask would be answered if I did enough prowling through existing threads but I’m here now for the sake of thoroughness. I’m about halfway through my summer cut. It’s been great so far. I believe that I’m now @ or below 10%BF. Until about 2 weeks ago I’ve been able to manage hunger, but lately I’ve become absolutely ravenous to the point that I’m breaking my diet restrictions. Like, waking up at 3AM and dipping tortillas into Nutella type ravenous.
I want to implement a GLP-1 to aid in appetite suppression and to aid in lipolysis as a secondary benefit. I have experience with sema and tirz. I didn’t notice much effect from the sema no matter how high I titrated my dose. I’m using (free $) tirz nasal spray right now and to nobodies surprise - it ain’t fucking working. Lol.
So - my main goal is appetite suppression. If you guys were in my position, which compound would you chose and why? Feel free to ask me questions about my diet, body, routine, whatever.
I was looking at reta, cagrin, and tirz as options. All subq administration route obviously. (Peptide nasal sprays aren’t worth a fuck, I know ) THANKS IN ADVANCE!

 

[Meetketchup]

IMO if appetite suppression is your main goal Tirz is the best option. Reta has less appetite suppression but does wonders for insulin control as well cholesterol and triglycerides.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

What are you taking that is increasing your hunger by that much sir please

I like semaglutide best for appetite suppression but there are other options I will post about once you answer this, thank you

 

[LukeOvEarth]

What are you taking that is increasing your hunger by that much sir please

I like semaglutide best for appetite suppression but there are other options I will post about once you answer this, thank you

I’m on about 20 mg of MK677 per night. Definitely the main culprit there. Aside from that, I am running Tren ace at 140 mg per week, test prop at 130 per week. And some hCG. None of these compounds were producing this level of hunger until recently.

IMO if appetite suppression is your main goal Tirz is the best option. Reta has less appetite suppression but does wonders for insulin control as well cholesterol and triglycerides.

Thank you, to help from you both as highly appreciated.

 

[Glycomann]

I've seen it suck the muscle right off of people but they were all lard and not much working out. Add training and AAS etc different story I guess.. just a guess.

 

[Meetketchup]

I've seen it suck the muscle right off of people but they were all lard and not much working out. Add training and AAS etc different story I guess.. just a guess.

I'm not a fan of GLP-1's but all the literature since their inception shows the muscle to fat ratio in weight loss due to a GLP-1 is nearly identical to no GLP weight loss. This goes for untrained and trained individuals.

Competitors using it back that up as well.

Just relaying the data that's available. I'm sure more studies will be done in the future.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

I’m on about 20 mg of MK677 per night. Definitely the main culprit there. Aside from that, I am running Tren ace at 140 mg per week, test prop at 130 per week. And some hCG. None of these compounds were producing this level of hunger until recently.

Maybe drop it to 12.5mgs at night time before bed?

As for the GLP's I like sema for the bang for the buck. Its the most affordable of all. A dose of .25mgs-.5mgs once a week is very reliable

The thing is, if you have bunk Tirzepatide that would also be the cause.

MK677 spikes blood sugars massively. HGH does too, but not so much.

We know MK is a ghrelin so its gonna increase appetite. GLPs and stims are your best bet. I am a huge fan of both.

I would suggest trying a new brand. If you wanna try the SEMA at .25mgs or .5mgs I have a sale right now. Code "MEM13" gets you 13.33% off the #1 selling sema of any UGL or research brand on the net. WE have 55 "5 star reviews"

The other thing u can do is add in a stimulant or preworkout early in the morning. ECA stack is tried and true. Ephedrine, dmaa by itself are good options. I will post my options for you here too. Drink alot water all day to help suppress appetite. 7 DHEA is also another nice compound imo besides stims.

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[Glycomann]

I'm not a fan of GLP-1's but all the literature since their inception shows the muscle to fat ratio in weight loss due to a GLP-1 is nearly identical to no GLP weight loss. This goes for untrained and trained individuals.

Competitors using it back that up as well.

Just relaying the data that's available. I'm sure more studies will be done in the future.

I haven't dug into it. It's mostly based on what I see with my eyes. When something is all the rage and has sides that can be pretty detrimental it starts to concern me. As a population we are risk takers. I don't want to sign on here in 5 years and see a whole bunch of guys a mess with a range of GI issues that persist long past the GLP use. That's what haunts me in this. That and seeing some people completely melt off lean tissue. I'd have to dig into those studies and really evaluate and that takes some time and effort, something I don't have time for right now.

 

[Glycomann]

I'm not a fan of GLP-1's but all the literature since their inception shows the muscle to fat ratio in weight loss due to a GLP-1 is nearly identical to no GLP weight loss. This goes for untrained and trained individuals.

Competitors using it back that up as well.

Just relaying the data that's available. I'm sure more studies will be done in the future.

On another note... imagine that the push now is for even kids to be on this stuff. Now imagine the target population is middle age and obese, crap diet, lousy nutrition, hardly any exercise. Now give them a drug that slows their gastric emptying and nutrient processing. So what you have is the same poor health subject boarder line inflamed from lousy diet, deficient in a range of nutrients and now shutting off his nutritional input. I just don't see how this is a benefit compared to life style change adding in an exercise regimen and eating nutritious foods.

GLP-1 drugs are just the next magic pill that totally circumvents what we should do in pursuit of health and well being.

 

[Fletcher]

Read the manufacturer's warnings.

Cue the addict freak-outs!

 

[LukeOvEarth]

Maybe drop it to 12.5mgs at night time before bed?

As for the GLP's I like sema for the bang for the buck. Its the most affordable of all. A dose of .25mgs-.5mgs once a week is very reliable

The thing is, if you have bunk Tirzepatide that would also be the cause.

MK677 spikes blood sugars massively. HGH does too, but not so much.

We know MK is a ghrelin so its gonna increase appetite. GLPs and stims are your best bet. I am a huge fan of both.

I would suggest trying a new brand. If you wanna try the SEMA at .25mgs or .5mgs I have a sale right now. Code "MEM13" gets you 13.33% off the #1 selling sema of any UGL or research brand on the net. WE have 55 "5 star reviews"

The other thing u can do is add in a stimulant or preworkout early in the morning. ECA stack is tried and true. Ephedrine, dmaa by itself are good options. I will post my options for you here too. Drink alot water all day to help suppress appetite. 7 DHEA is also another nice compound imo besides stims.

SemaGlutide - 5mgs bottle ( LAB TESTED - SUPER HIGH QUALITY ) #1 SELLING BRAND IN THE USA!!!

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Lean Temple ( ECA STACK ) **Authentic ECA by Exodus! SuPeR RaRe!!!

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You’re the best dude, thanks again. Definitely going to cut the MK in half and see if that helps. Do you also carry tirz? I’ve been itching to give your brand a go. I didn’t see much effect from the sema I tried last year, but you’re right that it could’ve been of poor quality. Either way I’ve decided to go through you for whichever GLP I grab.
I just ran out of Bronkaid so I’ll prob also grab some ephedra product as well.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

You’re the best dude, thanks again. Definitely going to cut the MK in half and see if that helps. Do you also carry tirz? I’ve been itching to give your brand a go. I didn’t see much effect from the sema I tried last year, but you’re right that it could’ve been of poor quality. Either way I’ve decided to go through you for whichever GLP I grab.
I just ran out of Bronkaid so I’ll prob also grab some ephedra product as well.

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[Meetketchup]

On another note... imagine that the push now is for even kids to be on this stuff. Now imagine the target population is middle age and obese, crap diet, lousy nutrition, hardly any exercise. Now give them a drug that slows their gastric emptying and nutrient processing. So what you have is the same poor health subject boarder line inflamed from lousy diet, deficient in a range of nutrients and now shutting off his nutritional input. I just don't see how this is a benefit compared to life style change adding in an exercise regimen and eating nutritious foods.

GLP-1 drugs are just the next magic pill that totally circumvents what we should do in pursuit of health and well being.

I couldn't agree more. The only real situation I'm cool with them being utilized is for the truly obese who will never change their eating habits and or workout. Mostly for selfish reasons for reducing health care costs as we all know obesity is the number precursor for morbidity. It amazes me people are using it for what they call "food noise" aka f'ing hunger signals which are normal.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Read the manufacturer's warnings.

Cue the addict freak-outs!

Truth be told I have only seen those in extreme abuse situations.

I love GLP-1s. Doctor Lusi and I have been administering these since 2019. We arguably have more real life experience combined then anyone else in the USA!

I also take these and give to my family.

I would never ever dare to give something to someone that can hurt them. Granted if u take a whole bottle every week for 6 months ur gonna have medical issues.

In thousands of clients and patients we have only seen 2-3 people with major sides. Vision issues for all...but they all were doing 2.5mgs once a week for over a year.

I have not seen major issues in a patient running 1mg or less of sema for 4 months. Just mild nausea and sometimes constipation.

I swear by these. They help w COVID. Sleep apnea. Cancers and possibly other diseases. I think these are miracle drugs.

But you are right, don't abuse or stay on too long. Long term use is when we see blurred vision or spots...it may be permanent. .too soon to tell.

Ty sir