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Skylerjohnson1996 said:
What's y'all's opinion on yms ? I'm pretty biased on the company I use haha they just seem like Amazon they have everything including selling off brand designer clothes kinda weird
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Yms started out positively spamming UGBB (rip) with very clearly bot postings, every hour for months. Predatorily hounding noobies for sales, while completely ignoring any of the feedback or vetting from the veteran members.
Not a good look for a new vendor.

Last year I ran out of HCG and needed some domestic while my international order came in, so I ordered some from them.
They scammed me with a bait and switch after they had my money.
And to make matters worse when the product arrived, when trying to remove the cap, the entire crimp and stopper came off with it, for every single vial.
Meaning they were never crimped properly, and we're not sterile
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They never did anything at all to correct this unacceptable product, acknowledge they scammed me, or give me my money back.

And then they had contaminated jano reports not long ago and refuse to have any testing credit policy, never addressed the concern, and then just ignored the criticism and questions as a result.


Needless to say, I have a very low opinion of yms.
They are a sham outfit selling shit, contaminated, gear. No QA at all, and don't stand behind their products quality.
Nobody should order anything from them.
 
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TomJ said:
Scrolls up to double check that I'm still in the pit

Yms started out positively spamming UGBB (rip) with very clearly bot postings, every hour for months. Predatorily hounding noobies for sales, while completely ignoring any of the feedback or vetting from the veteran members.
Not a good look for a new vendor.

Last year I ran out of HCG and needed some domestic while my international order came in, so I ordered some from them.
They scammed me with a bait and switch after they had my money.
And to make matters worse when the product arrived, when trying to remove the cap, the entire crimp and stopper came off with it, for every single vial.
Meaning they were never crimped properly, and we're not sterile
View attachment 205771

And then they had contaminated jano reports not long ago and refuse to have any testing credit policy, never addressed the concern, and then just ignored the criticism and questions as a result.

They are a sham outfit selling shit, contaminated, gear. No QA at all, and don't stand behind their products quality.
Nobody should order anything from them.
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Good to know. Thank you.
 
TomJ said:
Scrolls up to double check that I'm still in the pit

Yms started out positively spamming UGBB (rip) with very clearly bot postings, every hour for months. Predatorily hounding noobies for sales, while completely ignoring any of the feedback or vetting from the veteran members.
Not a good look for a new vendor.

Last year I ran out of HCG and needed some domestic while my international order came in, so I ordered some from them.
They scammed me with a bait and switch after they had my money.
And to make matters worse when the product arrived, when trying to remove the cap, the entire crimp and stopper came off with it, for every single vial.
Meaning they were never crimped properly, and we're not sterile
View attachment 205771
They never did anything at all to correct this unacceptable product, acknowledge they scammed me, or give me my money back.

And then they had contaminated jano reports not long ago and refuse to have any testing credit policy, never addressed the concern, and then just ignored the criticism and questions as a result.


Needless to say, I have a very low opinion of yms.
They are a sham outfit selling shit, contaminated, gear. No QA at all, and don't stand behind their products quality.
Nobody should order anything from them.
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Crazy to do that and your a competitor to so figure to give you the best products they could I've seen that from a couple of sources
 
TomJ said:
Scrolls up to double check that I'm still in the pit

Yms started out positively spamming UGBB (rip) with very clearly bot postings, every hour for months. Predatorily hounding noobies for sales, while completely ignoring any of the feedback or vetting from the veteran members.
Not a good look for a new vendor.

Last year I ran out of HCG and needed some domestic while my international order came in, so I ordered some from them.
They scammed me with a bait and switch after they had my money.
And to make matters worse when the product arrived, when trying to remove the cap, the entire crimp and stopper came off with it, for every single vial.
Meaning they were never crimped properly, and we're not sterile
View attachment 205771
They never did anything at all to correct this unacceptable product, acknowledge they scammed me, or give me my money back.

And then they had contaminated jano reports not long ago and refuse to have any testing credit policy, never addressed the concern, and then just ignored the criticism and questions as a result.


Needless to say, I have a very low opinion of yms.
They are a sham outfit selling shit, contaminated, gear. No QA at all, and don't stand behind their products quality.
Nobody should order anything from them.
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Damn. I've had no issues with YMS, but this is bad. Real bad.
 
squat to death said:
Yeah, he didn't know what he was doing.
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I only got test and npp from him, no floaters and I gained a lot of size from his npp, it transformed me in 3-4 weeks, so much so that I bought another 20cc bottle right before he disappeared,his shit was cheap too, what other issues did he have besides floaters , I can’t seem to find any complaints about his stuff besides for a few floaters
 
Wally954 said:
I only got test and npp from him, no floaters and I gained a lot of size from his npp, it transformed me in 3-4 weeks, so much so that I bought another 20cc bottle right before he disappeared,his shit was cheap too, what other issues did he have besides floaters , I can’t seem to find any complaints about his stuff besides for a few floaters
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Brewing with green gso knowing it was the wrong oil.
Cooking mct oil until it turned yellow. Mct oil is completely clear.
Constantly screwing up orders.
Making nonsense blends.
Cross contamination between different steroids.
 
Admittedly this has been a rough patch. ASF has always been one of the top forums for having awesome and reliable gear.

I personally believe part of it is the raw shortages and raw complications which is causing it

Those of you around many years back recall operation raw deal. Literally every board went almost silent for awhile.

People would have given their right arm for SustaTren or whatever u guys call the blend.

That was the worst I've seen, this is def up there. At times like this it's gonna take testing testing testing bc even good brands are gonna be getting beat from their raw suppliers. So what I mean is the sources are gonna have to tighten up on testing bc the raw suppliers don't care about you and I. Some of them overseas are gonna just send whatever they have.

So reliable raw sources are gonna be washing up and when that happens is when u see fraud.

Nevertheless brands who relied on sources for years have to tighten up. It can happen to a good source not attempting to screw anyone over.

Partial scamming is common during shortages. That's what sucks about this game.

We made it past ORD and gear grinder.

This will prob pass too in time...

I didn't realize ischus left. That's good though he got in and out.. that's a solid brand. I don't blame them for bailing right now either.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
Admittedly this has been a rough patch. ASF has always been one of the top forums for having awesome and reliable gear.

I personally believe part of it is the raw shortages and raw complications which is causing it

Those of you around many years back recall operation raw deal. Literally every board went almost silent for awhile.

People would have given their right arm for SustaTren or whatever u guys call the blend.

That was the worst I've seen, this is def up there. At times like this it's gonna take testing testing testing bc even good brands are gonna be getting beat from their raw suppliers. So what I mean is the sources are gonna have to tighten up on testing bc the raw suppliers don't care about you and I. Some of them overseas are gonna just send whatever they have.

So reliable raw sources are gonna be washing up and when that happens is when u see fraud.

Nevertheless brands who relied on sources for years have to tighten up. It can happen to a good source not attempting to screw anyone over.

Partial scamming is common during shortages. That's what sucks about this game.

We made it past ORD and gear grinder.

This will prob pass too in time...

I didn't realize ischus left. That's good though he got in and out.. that's a solid brand. I don't blame them for bailing right now either.
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Ischus was good people. He'll be missed.
 
squat to death said:
Ischus was good people. He'll be missed.
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Good chance he will be back. I won't go into the reasons why, but I know why. Has nothing at all to do w the forum or gear or shortages nor legal. Personal reasons 💪🏼

Sometimes brands go down due to divorce etc.

I tried to warn Strango years ago after his divorce to bail. He didn't. His ex turned him in. Not at all what Ischus is dealing w, but just letting u guys know he's still gtg and he's ok 💪🏼
 

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